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Originally posted by andersensrm
Okay but let me ask you this. We still don't know how life originated. How do we know whilst creating these supercomputers, that there is some kind of limit, like a swarzchild radius, where when you reach that point, the computer takes over, starts making its own code, doing stuff we've never seen. Re-editing its own code, and creating new code for itself, while learning improving. Hypothetically what if we created such a thing.
Is it life?edit on 20-3-2012 by andersensrm because: sense
The vast majority of living organisms are driven by instinctual habits and depend on their instincts for survival,for motivation and for breeding,they live from moment to moment and are unable to project themselves into the future...
Originally posted by Indellkoffer
reply to post by andersensrm
No, they can't think.
A living organism can deduce things from input without being programmed. Machines aren't capable of deducing things unless you write code for deductions -- and then it'll fail if the imput is ambiguous or out of its experience.
Originally posted by intrptr
Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by intrptr
I was just explaining the technological progression from robots,to cyborgs,to androids and androids are machines of human proportions,with super advanced computers for brains,they have thoughts and they are capable of thinking on their own,like C3PO...
Ahh, but I think we are already there on a 3PO level?
other 3POs
These "think". They carry out tasks, are mobile, avoid obstacles and I bet they even beeeeeep! Although 3PO can make hologram projections, fly and interpret the city computer we aren't far behind.
I was at a hospital not too long ago and we were waiting for the elevator. When the door opened there was this big robot sitting there. It had flashing lights on it and spoke to us to please make way or some such. We stood aside and it came out, turned and moved down the hall. I asked my mom to wait a minute and walked next to it. I started saying stuff like. "Robot Emergency Override", "Cancel" . Then I stood in front of it and it stopped. When I got out of the way, it just sat there, blinking. A nurse appeared and told me nicely to lay off and then went back to her station. A bit after it continued down the hall. I was amused. So it was (mostly) controlled by people after all. She later told me it was a "meds" robot, moving from desk to desk with prescribed patient medication in a vault I did't see. It was as big as a janitors cart. There was no "track" on the floor. I like mess in with their "cricket minds."
You ever want to know if you are dealing with a real intelligence or not, just ask it, "But how do you know?"
Originally posted by seeker1977
There is a post somewhere in here about Quantum Computing being much closer than anyone believes, possibly 10 to 15 years out. There is a story out there trying to provide a clear picture of how much more advance quantum computing is.
The story references some problem that would take all available current computers the entire time of the existance of our universe from the big bang to now however it goes on to state that a quantum computer would perform the same problem in hours.
If right now AI is nearly impossible, or thought to be impossible, that should change completely in the near future. Quantum computers could make Artificial Intelligence commonplace.
When I have more time I can try and find the actual story about quantum computing to post it here.
The world’s first commercially available quantum computer, which uses principles of quantum mechanics rather than classical mechanics, was sold to aerospace, defense and security company Lockheed Martin.
Unlike computers based on transistors, quantum computers rely on principles of quantum mechanics to conduct operations. The computers take advantage of properties like entanglement — when two particles have the same properties and behave identically while being separate — and storing data with “qubits,” or quantum bits. Typical bits store memory by registering an “on” or “off,” or a one or zero, while qubits can represent information as both memory and the state of entanglement with other particles.
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by andersensrm
Re your thread title: you are either assuming that the human brain is not a machine, or the human thinking doesn't happen in the brain. The human brain is a machine too! Albeit a very sophisticated one. So I question your thread title. What other "thinking" is there, but from a machine? I've never encountered a human that can think without a brain ...
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by andersensrm
Re your thread title: you are either assuming that the human brain is not a machine, or the human thinking doesn't happen in the brain. The human brain is a machine too! Albeit a very sophisticated one. So I question your thread title. What other "thinking" is there, but from a machine? I've never encountered a human that can think without a brain ...
depends on what you define as a machine. In that sense your right. But generally we don't regard our brains as machines. I'm talking about computers. But I like the connection and that is what I am going for, that we are similar to machines, and where is that line from machine to life start and end