Russian Anti-Terror Troops Arrive in Syria

Originally posted by MrStyx
Wow the hypocrisy stinks in this thread. After everyone's talk how matters should be handled internally Russia rolls in and is praised for it. The truth is you want anyone but the US or West to do it. Which in reality is fine by me. I don't want the US to be involved either. But even now its not good enough you claim since the West is in there its good Russia is too, but the West isn't in there. You got no proof.

Your arguments have alot of straw and no proof in them. They just sound good because its against the "evil empire". You'll see how good things will get comrade enjoy. You act as if Russia isn't one of the most corrupt regime's on the planet. The only difference between them and the US is the US tries to hide their corruption. Russia doesn't care. Who is next Iran or Syria make up your minds. Who even knows anymore.

It seems we are all ready for a war. Lets do it.

Have you read any of the other comments?

Most are siding with Russia intervening and putting down the rebels that the US and the West is backing in order to destabilize another peaceful nation ala Libya.

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


Don't really care.

www.renewamerica.com...

www.sourcewatch.org...

britanniaradio.blogspot.com...

archive.frontpagemag.com...

www.financialsense.com...

This was news years ago but it really doesn't matter since Democrats lied to get into power and the liberal press didn't want to report the news.

reply to post by Ameliaair

A lot of Chinese workers not soldiers in Africa and a destroyer, a frigate and a supply ship to fight piracy should not mean the Chinese are eager to get involved. Anyway...I think the Russians, US and China are working together. These days they do not use the "hotline" but tele conferencing. The US cannot do it on its own unless it wants to nuke the whole world so there is a need for global cooperation between these countries. besides they know each other so well.

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


Who writes this conspiracy non-sense? I've been tracking the Russian Navy auxiliary tanker for weeks now since it left the Black Sea and entered the Mediterranean. It has been sending Morse Code weather and sea state broadcasts. Think about it. If it was loaded with Russian special forces being sent to help Assad then do you really think that it would be openly revealing its position from the Black Sea through the Bosphorus and onwards to Tartus?

It is an auxiliary tanker that deploys with its own force protection. No different from any other nations vessels and especially when entering a port of a nation in turmoil.

Here is an Morse Code intercept from last night on the 20th. As I stated earlier I have been copying the Morse Code and its positional information since it left the Black Sea.

Here is one I copied yesterday. It should transmit again during the 12 GMT hour?

From the 20th at 00 GMT

5984 Khz

RCV DE RMGB 20001 99349 10358 22200

The second and third groups of the full weather broadcast contain the lat and long.

34.9N 35.8E Anchored / Hove to

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RCV = Sevastopol

RMGB = Auxiliary tanker Iman.

See following

rusnavy.com...

www.shipspotting.com...

The Russian Navy vessel was active in Morse Code this 12 GMT hour.

RMGB is the radio call sign.

12464 Khz

RCV DE RMGB QSA ? QTC K @1204Z
RMGB 193 19 21 1600 193 BT SML FOR RJH45 RJE73 BT
21121 99349 10358 41998 03502 10190 40200 53001 70200 80000 22200 00190 20000 88000 80000 21015 BT AR
RMGB K

This is international weather code. See following for how to decode the figures.

www.vos.noaa.gov...

From the second and third groups 99349 10358

This breaks to

34.9N 35.8E

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From the 11th group the vessel is indicating 00 which means hove to / at anchor / stopped.

The rest is just weather and sea state code. For example the sixth group is the temperature Plus 19 degrees.

RCV = Headquarters Black Sea Fleet
RMGB = Auxiliary Vessel Iman

Here was the Russian Navy tanker Iman back on 22 February at 12 GMT as she headed for the Bosphorus.

12464 Khz

RCV DE RMGB 22121 99443 10330 22252

44.3N 33.0E Heading South West at 6-10 Knots

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Absolutely amazing how a vessel with a routine force protection compliment can cause die-hard conspiracy loons to go nuts!

Even the Amur Class Repair Ship (Callsign RIR98) that was previously in Tartus, Syria had a protection force onboard.

rusnavy.com...

'To provide security during the cruise, PM-56 had an anti-terror group and boarding party consisting of BSF marines.'

BSF = Black Sea Fleet

Even this vessel was sending Morse Code weather reports from Tartus, Syria and all the way back to the Black Sea.

Originally posted by tommyjo
reply to post by navy_vet_stg3

 

Who writes this conspiracy non-sense?

ABC News, published on Yahoo. Did you bother to click the link? Also, I'm former Navy, and if SF is going to be doing operations, they're not going to be broadcasting it in Morse Code. I think even Russia has moved onto satellite communication technology, encrypted, etc. for such communications.

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3

Originally posted by tommyjo
reply to post by navy_vet_stg3

 

Who writes this conspiracy non-sense?

ABC News, published on Yahoo. Did you bother to click the link? Also, I'm former Navy, and if SF is going to be doing operations, they're not going to be broadcasting it in Morse Code. I think even Russia has moved onto satellite communication technology, encrypted, etc. for such communications.

Yes I clicked on the link. I'm talking about the bull crap conspiracy websites that are stating that the tanker is deploying troops in order to aid Assad. If the vessel was carrying troops for that alleged mission then it isn't going to be broadcasting its positional information using international weather format all the way from the Black Sea to Syria. The story is as bogus as the claims of Russian warships arriving in Syria during October/November of last year. The tanker currently in Tartus is crewed mainly by civilians. It carries a standard compliment of marines as a protection force. The last thing that Russia would want is elements of the Free Syrian Army to target the vessel. If required the protection force also allows for it to deploy through the Suez and link up with the Russian anti-piracy patrols in the Red Sea and Horn of Africa.

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So, you're basically saying the media is full of a bunch of sensationalizing boneheads? I can buy that!

Black Sea Fleet Tanker Iman, RMGB re-commences Morse Code weather broadcasts.

12464 Khz, 9th May, 12 GMT

RCV DE RMGB 09121 99356 10351 2227? @1204Z

35.6N 35.1E Heading North West

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8345 Khz, 9th May, 18 GMT

RCV DE RMGB 09181 99358 10348 22200 @1806Z

35.8N 34.8E Hove to

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Link to image of Tanker Iman.

www.shipspotting.com...

Tanker Iman still hove to off Cyprus as of 18 GMT / UTC, 12th May.

8345 Khz

RMGB = Tanker Iman
RCV = Sevastopol

8345 RCV DE RMGB 141 17 12 2200 141 BT SML FOR RJH45 RJE73 BT @1803 GMT
12818 99358 10348 41/98 22206 10200 40110 54010 70200 80000 22200 00210 20101 12013 BT AR
RMGB K

Positional and Course/heading information from above Morse Code weather transmission.

12181 99358 10348 22200 @ 1803Z

35.8N 34.8E Hove to

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Russian Navy Tanker Iman is off southern Cyprus heading west as of 16th May, 18 GMT / UTC.

From the Morse transmission on 8345 Khz

RCV DE RMGB 16181 99345 10339 22262 @1805Z

34.5N 33.9E Heading West at 6-10 Knots

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Thanks for this thread OP.

People moan about people posting content that has already been posted but I had missed this, and it is quite an important aspect in understanding why NATO hasn't intervened in Syria yet- if Russian troops are there, they can't exactly start dropping bombs.

Perhaps the Russians have been building up intel on who exactly the rebels are. More importantly, who is behind the rebels.

It's almost chess match esque, I think Russia knows a lot more about Western tactics in the region than they let on.

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
if Russian troops are there, they can't exactly start dropping bombs.

See following links

en.rian.ru...

abcnews.go.com...

The crazy claims of Russian troops in Syria are based on the movements of the Black Sea Tanker Iman. Yes the Russians have a naval base and military advisers, but the whacky claims are based on conspiracy non-sense that thousands of Russian troops are in Syria and that Russian Special Forces are directly involved. Large numbers of Russian troops can't just get into Syria unnoticed. Even the Russian are baffled by all the conspiracy non-sense surrounding their routine naval deployments and have released media to counter the media froth.

The ship involved in the original controversy, Tanker Iman, is still transmitting Morse Code weather that include positional information. As already admitted by the Russians it carries an anti-terrorist protection force. Standard operational procedures to protect the mainly civilian crew and especially when visiting Syria when it is internal unrest. If the vessel was transporting troops for direct involvement it is not going to be transmitting international weather and giving its location away on transit. Currently the Iman is heading west into the central Mediterranean.

From the Morse Code on 5984 Khz.18th May, 00 GMT

5984 RCV DE RMGB 18001 99345 10276 22262 @0004Z

34.5N 27.6E Heading West at 6-10 Knots

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Tanker Iman is now south of Crete.

8345 Khz. From the Morse Code weather transmission, 18th May, 18 GMT / UTC.

8345 RCV DE RMGB 18181 99347 10252 22222 @1803Z

34.7N 25.2E Heading East at 6-10 Knots

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Tanker Iman hove to off Crete.

5984 khz
RCV DE RMGB 19001 99351 10264 22200 @0004Z

12464 Khz
RCV DE RMGB 19121 99351 10264 22200 @1204Z

35.1N 26.4E Hove to

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Russian Navy Tanker Iman is heading back to the Black Sea.

12464 Khz, 26th May, 12 GMT

RCV DE RMGB 26121 99404 10267 22212 @1203Z

40.4N 26.7E Heading North East at 6-10 Knots

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Unidentified Russian Navy vessel has appeared off Tartus, Syria and has commenced sending Morse weather messages.

Simplex on 10201 Khz, 26th May 00 GMT

RCV DE RBIZ 26001 99349 10358 22200

34.9N 35.8E Hove to

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I cant start new topics yet, this is most recent Syria thread so please someone create a new thread on this and discuss. i think its is worth a look.

Syria crisis: Houla child massacre confirmed by UN

sorry for the hi-jack

The Russian Navy Destroyer Smetlivy has returned to the Black Sea

turkishnavy.net...


Russian Navy Floating Workshop PM-138 remains at Tartus, Syria

From the Morse Code weather transmission 5th June, 18 GMT.

10201 Khz Simplex

RCV DE RBIZ 05181 99349 10358 22200 @1804Z

34.9N 35.8E Hove to Tartus, Syria

Call sign RCV = HQ Black Sea Fleet, Sevastopol
Call sign RBIZ = Floating Workshop PM-138

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