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are you going to adopt them? how many kids have you adopted? how many children have you fostered?
it's selfish to deny someone life because it's inconvenient and maybe even hard to raise them up. so what if you can't give them the world, at least give them life
I believe it is wrong to take a life
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I'm guessing that those who are pro-abortion are mostly pro-first trimester abortions
But I am not sure on this, I can be wrong
So I decided to make a thread
I think that a 2nd trimester abortion seems to be a topic that pro-abortionists steer away from like the plague
Or maybe not... maybe a thread just needed to be created
I'm interested to know what everyone thinks of regarding 2nd trimester abortions.
As you can see from the video babies may be able to hear conversations from the womb just while in 2nd trimester.
This alone should settle the "Is it alive" question
Originally posted by DarkKnight76
I'll bite. You are kind of right, but the way you express it could be a bit more tactful, because it isn't drawing me to your side. I think, and I do not have a uterus so take this for what it is, that if you can't decide whether you want the baby or not in the first three months, you probably shouldn't be having a baby to begin with. I don't think that after the first trimester, unless the mother's health is compromised, abortion should be allowed. That's my comfort threshold, because while I am not religious, I do think there is a valid debate about when life begins, purely from a bio-psychological angle. When does the brain really start to form...images, for lack of a better word, and start to sense. This is a very important thing to discuss, and I am sure people with doctorates are trying to figure that out, if they don't think they already have. There is certainly common ground to be had, but hurling around things like pro-abortionist does nothing to make me want to find that common ground. I am not out there waving the flag for abortion, simply trying to be logical about it. Question for the females on, moms especially, at what point in your first pregnancy did you know "for real" that you were thinking and living "for two."
Originally posted by hadriana
I don't think it's really any of my business. I think most women would have 1st trimester abortions if that were an option that was easily open to them - most women would go as soon as they knew.
2nd and 3rd trimester abortions should be legal though, because you get medical and major life problems that pop up when one might be needed. IE neural tube defects, hydrocephalus or anacephaly noted on an ultrasound, or perhaps the woman contracts cancer or who knows what.
Do I think abortion is murder? NO. Not in any case. I'm very pro-choice.
That said, my friend who was very, very pro-life - and very politically active about it - got pregnant with her 2nd baby and when she was 6 months pregnant found out that the baby had severe spinal bifida and hydrocephalus and that the child's cerebrum was not formed right - the doctors told her the child would probably be viable but would need lifetime care - most likely institutionalization.
This couple was so religious they would not even have sex unless they thought they could conceive. Sex was for procreation ONLY. GAD.
She agonized and prayed with her husband over what to do and they ended up having a 3rd trimester abortion, citing it was for the sake of their older child and future children to come, and felt that having that child was dooming a living being to a lifetime of agony.
She was VERY depressed after making that decision. It was extremely hard for them.
Originally posted by kosmicjack
So while I am vehemently against this procedure, I agree with the above poster, it's just pointless to argue this.