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posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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reply to post by SavedOne
 


Well stated




posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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I'll just put it this way...

There is a reason there's a flood of anti-Paul stories today in the MSM... and this is only one of them...



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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with the amount of vote fraud already, they'll obviously do anything to deny the citizens a true election.


Exactly - I think it's hilarious that people continue to treat these phony elections (and our phony system) as a legitimate and viable means of running a country. Ron Paul, whether for real or not, is the proverbial "carrot on the stick."



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Why do people keep claiming that they have a delegate count, and they know that Ron Paul is on the losing end?



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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To be quite honest im getting abit worried about RP
Is he too good to be true ?
I mean the last few presidents screwed you and are taking away your freedoms
Now along comes RP
wins your hearts gets in the house
What a nice guy, he'd never use these powers that were written in
Unless he really really needed to, gosh that Ron Paul , what a guy
I trust him to do the right thing

Is this the ploy ?
Sounds like a bit of a set up to me
Is he just a puppet in new clothes sent to trick you/us ?

Just thinking out aloud sorry



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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You are following the election right? In what way is Ron Paul even close to winning anything? You may want to catch up on the election news a bit, so your informed.

He runs Third Party, Obama wins. It's that simple. You support him running Third Party, you are an Obama supporter. It's that simple.

Question is do you want Obama or not? It's that simple.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
Why do people keep claiming that they have a delegate count, and they know that Ron Paul is on the losing end?


Are all Paul supporters this out of touch? Don't you guys follow the Primaries at all, not to mention the national polls of registered, likely voters.

Paul can't win the nomination now. It can't be done.

You want him to run Third Party and hand the White House to Obama on purpose? He won't run Third Party.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
Why do people keep claiming that they have a delegate count, and they know that Ron Paul is on the losing end?


I keep wondering that myself.

How do the Ron Paul folks just KNOW he has the delegates needed to win?
How do anyone of them know anything about the delegate counts?

I really don't care, mostly because Obama will probably win again quite handily… which sucks, but I doubt we are going to get an ACTUAL socialist any time soon.. so why not continue on with a FAKE socialist?
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posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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It's good to see someone with a better mainstream messaging system than the internet tell it how it is.

Even if Romney does manage to scrape together enough delegates for the majority needed to win the convention (assuming that Frothy or Newt aren't already his Plan B, in the event that he can't win the nomination on his own), the chances of him going on to win the actual Presidency are slim, at best. He has only won a few states by majority so far, and those majorities were Extremely close, except for a couple that were in his pocket to begin with (in Virginia he was the only mainstream candidate, and Massachusetts, the state he was governor of). Obviously, since Romney doesn't even have the solid backing of the GOP, he isn't kicking anyone out of the Oval Office.

As for where things go for Paul, that's less clear. Right now Paul is winning far more delegates than the Media is letting loose, with the media using their Projection-jitsu style where ever they can. Plus many individual caucuses have been compromised due to the establishment outright breaking the law, and their own rules, trying to rob Paul of delegates. However, Paul's campaign is still doing very well and plans to stay in to the convention, despite what the media would have you believe. Though I haven't seen any updated delegate numbers out of their camp, I'd guess that they're still holding Santorum and Gingrich below water.

Also, to address people claiming that Paul would never run third party to keep from hurting Rand, Paul has stated a couple times that he is confident in his son, and his ability to do well within the GOP on his own. He made this especially clear when speculation first came out that he would give in to Romney to get Rand the Vice-Presidency. Now, tell me, how likely is it that he would stop before a third party run just to let Rand continue milling his prospects in the GOP, if he wouldn't sellout to Romney to get him the Vice-Presidency? Whether or not Paul will run third party cannot be guessed at with absolute certainty. We will have to wait and see how things play out.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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Here is the count as it stands now. Romney has more than half so far and Paul is at the bottom of the ladder.
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posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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Because the Delegate Counts are available from lots of sources. One need only look.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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RP has my vote. He's the only human in the group.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 06:05 PM
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Where did you get that delegate count? Most sources use "projections," as addressed in my post. Projections are not legally required to be accurate, and if you watch the news stations as they have their guy give the "delegate count," you'll notice that they're very careful to always say projection at some point.

However, the Paul campaign has given their own delegate count, without calling it a projection (if I'm wrong please correct me), therefore putting themselves in a weak point, unless the count they gave was accurate. Now, I doubt that the Paul campaign would do something like that.

Also, the delegate count you provided shows Paul with fewer delegates than his camp reported last time they gave out numbers, 66 to ~86, I believe. Take that into consideration the legal repercussions that would ensue if the Paul camp's delegate count were to be inaccurate, and it would be safe to say that your source is probably wrong.
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posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by ILikeStars
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You are most certainly welcome for the chuckle my friend. Care to wager any bets?


Well, If and only if Ron Paul is made the nominee, then I really do believe Obama would lose to Paul. No doubt about it. I live in the center of a city that voted almost unanimously for Obama and now I would say half would vote for Paul. AND I'm pretty sure the rest of the country would strongly support Paul over Obama. The real problem is getting rid of the sell-out losers that are in his way.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by michaelbrux


But we all know people are predisposed to believing in lands of make believe. a little hope never hurt anyone.
edit on 19-3-2012 by michaelbrux because: grammer spelling


One word, Obama.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by Furbs
 


Because the Delegate Counts are available from lots of sources. One need only look.


So why the discrepancy? Everyone can't be in the lead at the same time.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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i've pondered that myself. i think paul is the best candidate so far in my mind, and i'm wondering if after all the poll-mucking that will occur, his supporters will BRING IT. he's got a lot of support and that kind of creeps me out. he seems the best option, but that makes me wonder if he's going to be the false messiah. just kidding. but really, he's got tons more support than the gop would have you know.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by badgerman24

Originally posted by FreedomXisntXFree
I've been thinking for a while. What if "2012 mystery" is the result of a Third Party win. A shift in consciousness and political paradigm. If there was a ever time in history for a Third Party candidate to win its this year.

This years political process is so exciting its ridiculous. This makes me happy.



I think Paul will make a HUGE come from behind win this year and shake things up.


If he doesn't win the GOP nomination, and doesn't run third party, I am writing him in on my ballot. Anyone else is just status quo and it doesn't matter who wins.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by Neocrusader
To be quite honest im getting abit worried about RP
Is he too good to be true ?
I mean the last few presidents screwed you and are taking away your freedoms
Now along comes RP
wins your hearts gets in the house
What a nice guy, he'd never use these powers that were written in
Unless he really really needed to, gosh that Ron Paul , what a guy
I trust him to do the right thing

Is this the ploy ?
Sounds like a bit of a set up to me
Is he just a puppet in new clothes sent to trick you/us ?

Just thinking out aloud sorry


If it is, it's the longest, most consistent setup in world history.

Liars can't keep their story straight for a day, much less 20 years.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by TimesUp

Well, If and only if Ron Paul is made the nominee, then I really do believe Obama would lose to Paul....[snip]... The real problem is getting rid of the sell-out losers that are in his way.



Agreed. But, I think it's already decided. I don't believe elections are real anymore. I don't think Ron Paul will be the man this time around, I really don't. Not that I don't believe in him or his message. I honestly believe Obama will have a second term because of the Republicans' game plan.

But ultimately they are the same party, and still arguing the same political points and views and talking points I've been listening to since 1980 when I started paying attention (in the third grade, mind you).





 
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