This is How the Ancients Moved, Cut and Engraved Great Blocks with Such Precision. No Aliens, sorry.

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What is your opinion on this theory presented earlier--

One theory that is being explored is ancient kites being used to lift great objects. Peru being high in the mountains would of offered many opportunities to learn about wind and its effects on a large fabric.

Researchers Lift Obelisk With Kite to Test Theory on Ancient Pyramids

On June 23, Mory Gharib and his team raised a 6,900-pound (3132.6 kg), 15-foot (3.0 m) obelisk into vertical position in the desert near Palmdale by using only a kite, a pulley system, and a support frame. Although the blustery winds were gusting up to 22 miles (35.4 km) per hour, the team set the obelisk upright on their second attempt.

news.nationalgeographic.com...

Kites may date back as far as 3000 years, where they were made from bamboo and silk in China. Exactly how or when a kite was first flown is a mystery, but one legend suggests that when a Chinese farmer tied a string to his hat to keep it from blowing away in a strong wind, the first kite was born. Another theory suggests that to make a high official's banner more visible, it was strengthened with a bamboo frame and flown. Or it may have been inspired by observing the wind-filled sails of fishing boats (the sail has been used in China for 3000 years). Perhaps the earliest kites consisted of a huge leaf attached to a long string (there is a type of Asian leaf that is ideal as a kite).

www.computersmiths.com...

Okay so if all you guys have this theory down then when is someone going to test it? I mean I see all these diagrams but has anyone tested it to see if these theories would work?

I'm sure you can setup a demonstration on a smaller scale right? Wouldn't that make the results conclusive?

PS. There may be something in the videos but I do not have access to video...

If this is easy tech then why is it not used today or practiced and researched?

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Interesting stuff!

So when are we seeing the video that shows how to move 100+ tons megaliths using sound?

These ancient people seemed to have an intelligence of things that incorporated a lot of understanding of things we have tossed aside over the years. They didn't need to be aliens but at least some of them were very aware of things that occur in nature and used this awareness to create amazing things. An advanced ancient civilization that did simply what we cannot do today with our biggest equipment. If we would only credit them for their intelligence we could discover how they built them. I'm sure the techniques are somehow incorporated into some of the things that we are using on a regular basis but we don't see their application as relevant.

Have to disagree. Even if you found this to be true, it still doesn't mean aliens didn't intervene. Thats where this whole I have no proof & you have no proof thing comes into play.

Originally posted by Floydshayvious
You know what's funny about it all?

No matter what theories are proffered, we will never, ever, ever, know.

Never.

Seems like a huge waste of energy IMHO.

Quite true.

The only way to prove ETs exist is to go to their world for a visit. Since we cannot even get to the space station without hitching a ride with the Ruskies, I think that is not going to happen in my life time.

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wow. thanks for posting this. i do believe you could be onto something here. i saw something not too long ago about mr. ed and was quite surprised. it is a simple and free technology that our uber-civilized society just skipped over it seems.

Originally posted by SavedOne

Originally posted by WarriorOfTheLight
Only one problem OP

There is absolutely no proof whats so ever of the tools and methods you speak off, if there was and they was found and carbon dated to the time, there wouldn't be this massive mystery surrounding them, you have proved nothing other than way we today could in-vision to make them, and even then, you have not proved they can, and when you do, we will require study into the cuts they make to compare and prove it was a similar tool, sorry op your thread title is misleading, you have just added another theory

How do you know the tools are lost? Perhaps they're right in front of your face and you don't recognize them. As I mentioned in a previous post, the Romans made extensive use of concrete until the Roman Empire fell in 400 AD. The technology was completely lost at that point until it was rediscovered in 1756. The tools used in the forming and handling of concrete are basic tools that can be used for a number of other things (shovels, screeds, wheelbarrows). These tools could be all around you and yet you'd still have no clue how to make concrete.


If it's that easy to lose technology from a few decades ago, then how about thousands or tens of thousands of years ago?

LOL

And thats your debunking/reason for them to have not have been made by an advanced ET race? because the tools are lost?, right... well then thats still not proof of anything, and neither does it discredits the Ancient Alien theory does it?

you have your opinion, others have there's, i'm open to the idea tool are lost, but until there found its just a theory no more credible than the Ancient Aliens theory,

The problem is is your calling modern man stupid and incapable of finding such things, i think we have done a hell of alot of digs around these sites enough to decide they are not there and never was there, so we simply have to look elsewhere and consider other possibilities, i think it would be far more shocking to find ancient man did have the technology to craft such stones

Originally posted by loOranks
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Interesting stuff!

So when are we seeing the video that shows how to move 100+ tons megaliths using sound?

I dare you to try to budge this, I bet you cant.

But get it vibrating and it becomes as easy as a shopping cart to move around.
at 1:40 you can see this small man pushing the 300 lbs machine up the hill without it 'rolling' back like it was a baby carriage.

Originally posted by ShadowOblivionX
Gonna have to say I disagree. If we once had advanced technologies of any type and they were then forgotten then wouldn't they have developed again in the natural evolution of technology?

Not neccesarily. We live in a fast paced world where architects, construction, engineers have a deadline. We're living in a fast pace world and business is money. Its apparent that this particular type of drilling is used now only is small scale operations and not to build monuments.

I can't picture Donald Trump waiting for one of his new casinos or endeavors being built by thousands of chanting workers. What may have worked then, will definitely not work now. Seems more likely people had more time on their hands back then

Right on! and not so much. Sound is where it's at. Acoustic levitation, sonic drills-makes a lot of sense. However, people say that the high tech we enjoy today-computers, fiber optics, stealth bomber/other military tech, has come from or been back engineered from alien tech. Just because it can be explained by sonic tech doesn't mean that the ancient people came up with that tech on their own (though they very possibly could have.) Still, I think you are right on about the tech itself.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by loOranks
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Interesting stuff!

So when are we seeing the video that shows how to move 100+ tons megaliths using sound?

I dare you to try to budge this, I bet you cant.

But get it vibrating and it becomes as easy as a shopping cart to move around.

at 1:40 you can see this small man pushing the 300 lbs machine up the hill without it 'rolling' back like it was a baby carriage.

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Vibrations that would undoubtedly crack, shatter or break such megalithic stones, this theory is far more clutching at straws than the Ancient Aliens one, and you're confusing Ancient man with modern man/technology, that's the problem here, you have to use tools and methods that was available to stone age man not make up modern ways to do it which is what you are doing,

These tools do not exist and never have done, unless the sun gods took the tools home, those were the people who they the ancients keep telling us who built them

I do not think this is plausible. You have rocks with supper precise cuts, as if they wear done by a computer. You have perfect round edge cuts. For example look at the statues in eygpt some of them look as if they are one big piece of granite. If you wear to cut them in half they would be exactly symmetrical. Allot of the statues are repeated as if their was a mold.

Resonance

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Again you're providing modern methods to lift such mammoth stones, which are "unproven" or theoretical, and not to mention have not been found in any of the thousands of digs around such sites or anywhere on the planet for that matter, i think its safe to say you are incorrect, its just silly really,

I cant help but see mayan glyphs when I view examples of Chladni forms made from cymatics.

My reply here may be the result of too much caffiene and too much time on my hands.

The whole "vibrations" discussion has me thinking of the collapse of the Twin Towers. Does anyone know if there was a common foundation connecting the towers? And if so, could this have turned the towers into a sort of gigantic tuning fork? The impact of the planes, the resulting explosions, followed by the vibration of thousands of people running down the stairwells.....

I'm picturing the bridge that collapsed from wind-caused vibration. Is it possible the towers were brought down by a catastrophic vibration event?

Regarding Edward Leedskalnin: whatever tools and technology he used (by himself) to lift and position 20 ton stones was possibly available to the pyramid builders, who had unlimited labor at their disposal. It's unfortunate that Leedskalnin was so secretive.

As for the pyramid builders, maybe the technology they used was so commonplace at the time that they never thought it necessary to leave instructions for future generations.

Interesting theory. A couple issues I have with it however. These 'advanced construction techniques' show up in diverse cultures all over the world. Cultures where there is no evidence that there was any interaction or even knowledge that each other existed. Is it being suggested that this lost knowledge evolved inependently in each of these cultures and was then independently lost in each culture?

Puma punku is probably one of the best examples of 'advanced construction techniques'. However, the nearby Tiwanaku temple is constructed with far less sophisticated techniques. Is this theory suggesting that the advanced knowledge disappeared between the two even though the resident culture was expanding?

......"Could this device I have in my hands been given to man by aliens as a propulsion system to carry large 20 ton stones into place? I think so"!

Look at 8:50

Soo every major ancient civilization who where living all over the world knew about this technology?