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Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by Shadow Herder
Now you just need to figure out how the Incan and their predecessors developed high tech parabolic mirrors, how they used them, and why the Incan didn't appear to know anything about them when they met the Spanish - and why no sign of this technology has ever been found.
www.world-mysteries.com...
All the time the melted look is present and obvious.
The reflection is strong.
A layer is present at the surface where the vitrifcation is visible, sometimes the layer is interrupted because of some damage that occurred, and there this layer is clearly visible as a small ´film´ over the stone, this is independently of he type of rock.
The surface is completely smooth for the touch in all cases, although the surface can be irregular (so it would have been extremely difficult to polish this irregular surface).
The scale and the repetition and the form of the phenomena is such that the factor time and the difficulty to reach the precision doing it with carving and polishing, must be considered as ''not very probable'' and ''absolutely not common sense''. Useless for the Incas to do these kind of things and to spend so much time.
Others have shown that many of these stones are magnetic, so something special happened with these rocks.
The color on the treated rocks many times is different compared with the same but not treated rock nearby.
On the perfect fitting stone walls we see very small pieces of stone of lower blocks, entering to occupy the small space between the upper laying blocks, as if the weight of the upper laying blocks pressed the once soft stone below to go there, these very thin pieces of rock would have been broken if polishing and smashing with other stones or using metal tools would have been the method of construction. This can be observed in the walls of Koricancha for example.
Repeated observation of all the phenomena mentioned above in all so called Inca vestiges, which includes different types of stone, and both construction styles: the walls with perfect fitting stones and the rocks 'in situ'.
en.wikipedia.org...
Of the seven metals known in antiquity only gold occurred regularly in native form in the natural environment. The others: copper, lead, silver, tin, iron and mercury, occur primarily as minerals. These minerals are primarily carbonates, sulfides, or oxides of the metal, mixed with other components such as silica and alumina. Roasting the carbonate and sulfide minerals in air converts them to oxides. The oxides, in turn, are smelted into the metal. Carbon monoxide was (and is) the reducing agent of choice for smelting. It is easily produced during the heating process, and as a gas comes into intimate contact with the ore.
In the Old World, humans learned to smelt metals in prehistoric times, more than 8000 years ago. The discovery and use of the "useful" metals — copper and bronze at first, then iron a few millennia later — had an enormous impact on human society. The impact was so pervasive that scholars traditionally divide ancient history into Stone Age, Bronze Age, and Iron Age.
In the Americas, pre-Inca civilizations of the central Andes in Peru had mastered the smelting of copper and silver at least six centuries before the first Europeans arrived in the 16th century.[1]
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
No alien tech. The incas and others used methods of locomotion, drilling and cutting not widely accepted as being used by the ancients of the time which leaves a gap as to how they were build allowing much room for the ancient alien folks to fill the gaps. Thanks for your attempts at contributing.
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by Hanslune
Of course I read it Han. Did i mention mirrors? Keep in on topic of what I was recently posting. The point is that the ancients used methods that are a mystery today and unles you know the facts then get back in line.
Originally posted by Hanslune
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
No alien tech. The incas and others used methods of locomotion, drilling and cutting not widely accepted as being used by the ancients of the time which leaves a gap as to how they were build allowing much room for the ancient alien folks to fill the gaps. Thanks for your attempts at contributing.
Shadow it would seem you actually didn't read that stuff .........
Originally posted by Hanslune
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
No alien tech. The incas and others used methods of locomotion, drilling and cutting not widely accepted as being used by the ancients of the time which leaves a gap as to how they were build allowing much room for the ancient alien folks to fill the gaps. Thanks for your attempts at contributing.
What did all this fabulous' melting and what evidence do you have for it?
Also
www.world-mysteries.com...
A list of arguments in favor of a special technique
So definitely a special technique was used, a conclusion that is based on the following arguments:
All the time the melted look is present and obvious.
The reflection is strong.
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Of course I read it Hans. Did i mention mirrors? Keep in on topic of what I was recently posting. The point is that the ancients used methods that are a mystery today and unles you know the facts then get back in line.
A list of arguments in favor of a special technique
So definitely a special technique was used, a conclusion that is based on the following arguments:
The rock surfaces on Inca stones are similar to those that have been thermally disaggregated. Indeed, some of the slick surfaces on the Inca building stones are glazed, so it becomes apparent that the Incas must have used thermal disaggregation.
Maybe you should start a thread " ATS and its threads are a waste of time. Just U2U me and I will tell you old stuff that we all knew when we were kids. " Or " Thinking outside of the box is for people with imaginations..idiots"
Untill then, offer some ideas as to how YOU think the south Americas constructed the area and why?
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by Hanslune
So no evidence of it means it doesn't exist. haha
Originally posted by Hanslune
I believe I've stated that in this and other threads repeatedly, craftmanship by the locals
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by Furbs
Dude you already blatantly misrepresented the science abstract. haha.
edit on 25-3-2012 by fulllotusqigong because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Furbs
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by Furbs
Dude you already blatantly misrepresented the science abstract. haha.
edit on 25-3-2012 by fulllotusqigong because: (no reason given)
Still bringing up the abstract that I already conceded about PAGES ago? You really must be a one trick pony.
As for the video.. it would seem that you are misrepresenting what is happening in the video if you are seriously comparing a bunch of people singing and banging drums to what is going on at that event.
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
You conceded you were wrong -- but c'mon why were you wrong about something so obvious? haha.
Because you tried to twist the information around to suit your preconceived notions apparently.
No need to consider your intentions. You conceded you were wrong -- but my question is how could you be wrong about such a straightforward thing? Hmmm.
That's the problem with the so-called "skeptics" -- like James Randi lying all the time and then thinking gee if I can trick people and they fall for it that means they're wrong. haha.
No - - Randi -- that means you're abusing people.
I'm interested in rational dialog -- not being a victim of abuse. haha.
So were you wrong just because you mistakenly twisted around something so obvious? I find that difficult to believe because you had to go out of your way to try to change the meaning of something.
Nope you tried to "pull a trick" -- and now you want to say that I am a "one trick pony."
Seriously that's just really tragic and then you ran to a moderator when I called you on your blatant error -- trying to claim now it was off topic. Hilarious.
Now you want to continue posting on abovetopsecret as if you didn't even do anything like try to twist the meaning around, hoping you could get away with it. haha.
Oh boy that sure is sad.
I would love to discuss details about comparing quantum levitation with nonwestern harmonics as levitation but seriously there first needs to be a level playing field of people not stooping to stupid attempts at twisting the meaning around of things.
Yes you conceded you were wrong -- but the question remains -- why try to change the meaning of something so obvious? If you did it once then how can anyone know you won't do it again?
That means you're disqualified in my book in terms of any meaningful discussion.