posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 05:41 PM
reply to post by Furbs
That makes no sense -- he's a fraud because other people are frauds but he's worse since the other people admit they are frauds but he does not.
That presents no evidence of him being a fraud yet the Western scientists testing him got real results.
Like I said -- if you experience a real qigong master then you know it is real.
The first time I experienced one was Effie P. Chow from S.F. -- she came to Mpls. in 1995 and during her presentation I felt the very strong
electromagnetic fields. Then a security guard wandered in as everyone was leaving and she wondered why the fuse got blown in the room behind us.
Qigong masters are real. Here's a list of some real qigong masters:
John Chang; Wang, Liping; Yan Xin; Master Zhang of qigongmaster.com...
; Effie P. Chow; Chunyi Lin.
So that's half a dozen real qigong masters that I know of. There's also Master Yao of Shaolin -- but I haven't confirmed if there is more than one --
he did a hard qigong presentation in S.F. and then he treated Chunyi Lin's wife.
O.K. so you say John Chang is fake -- but check out the training Chunyi Lin did - -it's just like what John Chang demonstrates:
The first winter after my return home, I took two months off to go to Master Zhang at Qing Cheng Mountain. I spent those two months mostly in deep
meditation deep inside a cave. First, there was a three day fast and meditation in the cave. Then, a week-long meditation and finally a month-long
meditation. During these meditations I was allowed little or no water and very little food. During the month-long fast and meditation I had just three
apples to eat and a few small bottles of water. This was a test of your ability to control your Qi and a test of your discipline. These deep
meditations had always been a key part of my Qigong training. My masters often had a very specific message for me to focus on in my meditations. This
training is so enlightening I don't know how to explain it. But, the purpose and the result are always the same; to enhance your understanding of the
universe and to increase the power of your own Qi and your ability to focus it. My training with Master Zhang was more enlightening and beneficial
than I can put into words. At the end of this training I was given a series of tests. The master tests you primarily on your ability to read the
energy in other people's bodies and then to use your own energy, your own Qi, to help them to heal. You are also tested on your ability to read
people's thoughts. You are tested on being able to predict the future. One test is to predict what the weather will be for the next ten days. If you
fail these tests, you do not pass. There are many other tests as well. Some would be considered very dangerous for anyone who was not a Qigong
master. In one test, I was taken into a room with an electrical transformer. There were two electrical lines. One positive, the other negative. They
carried 220 volts of electricity. I had to grasp one line in each hand and use my body as a conductor to complete the circuit. It is another way you
show your ability to control your own energy. Obviously, I passed the test. But, please, don't try this test yourself. It would be very dangerous and
could kill you. In another test, I had to change the alcohol content of wine. I had to raise the alcohol content in one bottle of wine and lower it
in another. All of these tests I had to pass and did pass with very high marks. But, again, most of the tests focus on your ability to use your Qi to
help others to heal. I tell you these things to give you an idea of what it takes to become a Qigong master. It takes years of dedicated study and
training. At the end of my testing at Ching Chang Mountain with Master Zhang I was awarded certification as an International Qigong Master. I had not
gone there expecting anything like this. I went only to study with a master for whom I had the greatest admiration and respect. The certification came
as a complete surprise. It also came as further confirmation to me that I was on the path I was meant to travel for the rest of my life.
O.K. so turning water into wine and vice versa, taking strong electricity through the body, going without food, water and sleep for long periods of
There's more here from another qigong master Yao
And yes a student of John Chang reported that John Chang was training in levitation and John Chang could jump over a house using his levitation
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