Originally posted by LuckyLucian
reply to post by graphuto
Ok, I gotcha. But I'm not twisting any words. Some people on the thread keep trying to play word games, specifically with the word belief, and
I don't care to play. In context belief can have a religious meaning, in another it does not. Yet despite the fact that I'm not using the word, it's
being put into my mouth by a person that is twisting words and playing word games.
It's simple to me. In my heart and mind and gut I know there's no god. Not believe. That my position is attacked with childish antics aggravates me to
no end when I use the language clearly to say exactly what I mean. And then the word game starts again.
I'm not trying to win a debate. I'm just trying to discuss. Semantic and pragmatic nonsense was not my intent. That's why I quit responding.
Graphuto, are you of the belief that the OT laws were "repealed" at the crucifixion?
A question that I honestly don't know the answer to myself, so I won't pretend to.
That being said:
Are we even positive that the 600 some odd laws weren't part of the legal doctrine of man, which Jesus was really fighting so hard against? I mean,
why would God command them to stone adulterers and Jesus tell them not to?
I'm leaning towards God doling out the 10 commandments and man creating the rest to suit their selfish and self righteous desires.
And on the other hand, Jesus also said "I came not to abolish the law, but fulfill it."
Someone else says:
The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
What say you to my flat earth analogy in relation to the existance of God?
And I'd say I feel the same as you, in regards to my "belief". I KNOW that God exists in my heart, mind, and gut, it's not something I merely
believe. I've (seen/felt/experienced) the invisible hand of God acting in my life and the lives of those around me.
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