Don't You Religious Nuts Have Better Things To Do?

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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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I can usually just accept these religious threads popping up on ATS with a "Live and let live" approach, skim and move on, but lately...WOW! This is getting to be ridiculous with the amount of "God Fearing" threads lately. And a recent thread saying that I am going to hell because I won't get on bended knee and accept the teachings of the second best fairy tales besides the Brother's Grimm? (They had Werewolves at least).

Do I come banging on your door to tell you "My Story? Do I stand in the streets telling you that I don't believe? Do I invade websites to tell you "My Word"?

NO!

So what the hell gives you the right to pollute sites like ATS with your personal "Insights", "Revelations", "Messages", "Gifts" etc?

It's time for all of you religious nutters to understand that we are at a crossroads in humanity where we have the "Believers" and "Non-Believers" and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Many of us don't care or even want to hear about lambs, sacrifices, virgins giving birth and millions of animal species on a boat. We don't care and don't need you to tell us we are going to burn in some imaginary fiery pit...because we don't believe and NOTHING you can do or say will change it.

Do you believe that we don't know about the bible, God, Christians, bread and wine? Get real folks! We have ALL been indoctrinated with the fairy tales and bed time stories from birth. We get it! And we have also chosen to not go down your path.

You come on sites like ATS and spew your doctrine to make YOU feel better. That's it isn't it? YOU need to do something with your pathetic little cave of a life in order to make sense of it. And if that means going out to spread your "Word" so that you are doing your GOD's work, you feel worthwhile. It isn't working because all you are doing is pissing people off when you interrupt intelligent, researched and well thought out topics with your fairy tails.

I have said many times on these boards that I have no problem with Christians and hope that whatever makes you happy will continue to do so. I practice that stance by NOT trolling your threads and NOT being rude about what I believe compared to your beliefs. But tonight that changed.

In the last Month or so there has been an increase in Internet Preachers coming here and condemning us non-believers to your hell because we are not on your path. I see also that most of you are new members within a few Months, weeks and days of joining. Are you gathering your fellow trolls to flood the boards? Do you think this will work?

I don't come to your sites and spread my words so why do you come here to do so?

In closing, I believe if there truly is a hell, many of you so-called Christians will end up there because you have absolutely no love for anyone else but yourselves and your kind. I would also like to say that if you can discuss your beliefs intelligently with patience, understanding and an insight into the fact that we are not all going to cross the field to your side because you say it's the only way...I'll welcome your input and won't damn you for your beliefs if you will kindly treat me equally.

Take that to the pew!

Peace



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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 01:54 AM
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The best thing to do is make light of the situation and how ridiculous it is. I could really care less if the hordes of ritual cannibals and blood sacrifice mongers come pouring in. The harder they try the more ridiculous they make themselves out to be.

These people are doing rational and critical thinking individuals a favor through their displays, the harder they push in a modern society where they have been neutered from using death and violence as a means of control and cultural subversion the easier it is to show that this kind of behavior is unacceptable.

It's why there is so much anger and vitriol when it comes to the "civilized" fundies. 200 years ago these people would have tried to cause bodily harm or much worse just for having a differing opinion or position. The time is now to let them continue to cut their own feet from under them as we show that the threats carried by their perverted gospels and views are just as culturally unacceptable as the violence they wish they could still rely on.


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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:02 AM
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i think the problem is christianity, i never hear about buddhists trying to convert me. lol



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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Years ago I was one of those religious nutters. I think most of them are young, not just on this site, but on the planet if you catch my meaning. Many are spurred on by the furvor of youth, and something they have found that "works" for them. They have yet to mature, and realize that one size does not fit all. Ridicule actually strengthens their position in their own eyes. So that's a lame duck from the start. There is no "reasoning" with them. Only life has the appropriate sized 2x4 to beat some sense into their brains IF it ever happens.

I have been in the medical feild a little over a decade, and I can't count the number of prayers for miracles. I have yet to see the miracle. A lot of self justification, but no miracles.

That's not to say I don't believe in spirituality, and a deeper order to things, but I think it is far more complex than we are capable of grasping, and the major religions simply give veiled hints. There is no greater fool than the man who claims to have absolute truth.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
i think the problem is christianity, i never hear about buddhists trying to convert me. lol


Because Buddhists believe in people discovering and searching for understanding and enlightenment while the true history and nature of Christianity is force and to convert or die.

Simple.

It's their way or nothing. Very "Christian" of them.

Peace



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:11 AM
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You asked,


So what the hell gives you the right to pollute sites like ATS with your personal "Insights", "Revelations", "Messages", "Gifts" etc?


Because just like sales, sometimes they find a sucker, and theirs makes cash.
That's why.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:20 AM
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*slow clap* Well said sir S&F. I have no ill will toward religious folk but the ones that condemn everyone who don't share their views get under my skin. I will say it happens on both sides...Why can't atheists stay out of religious threads (unless their being bashed we have a right to rebuttal in defense) and religious folk should stay out of evolution threads unless they have science to offer (your religion shouldn't even be a factor in that discussion.) You don't see near as many atheists troll bait as you do creationists....not saying it doesn't happen just not as often.

With that said I think some atheists lump all religious people together based on the zealots. That's not right either I really do respect someones choice to have faith...just respect my choice not to and don't shove it on unwilling ears. It pushes people away from the cause.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:21 AM
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I agree for the most part;

You come on sites like ATS and spew your doctrine to make YOU feel better.

That's the idea of which 'most' religions are founded upon, especially the ones who preach like there is no tomorrow.

Relevant: www.apenotmonkey.com...

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And to add to this:

Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by jazzguy
i think the problem is christianity, i never hear about buddhists trying to convert me. lol


Because Buddhists believe in people discovering and searching for understanding and enlightenment while the true history and nature of Christianity is force and to convert or die.

Simple.

It's their way or nothing. Very "Christian" of them.

Peace


Absolutely, christianity is about denial even when science can disprove various elements of its beliefs. There is no questioning even if it is known to be wrong.
Buddhism on the other hand, well.. this picture is worth every pixel: i.imgur.com...
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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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First, I would like to say that yes, I am a Christian. A hardcore, radical, believes-everything-the-Bible-says-even-the-OT, kind of Christian. Non-denominational.

I do not believe in forcing religion down people's throats. Many of my friends, even the Atheist ones, agree that I am not a Bible Thumper - something they define their other "Christian" friends who try to shove the Bible down their throat. I do not believe this based off my own opinion alone (because honestly, it's common courtesy), but the Bible ITSELF says not to do that. The ones who do that, are wrong.

Second, you have to understand WHY they are doing this - from the Christian perspective, anyone who isn't 'born-anew' appears as a victim stuck in a burning house, and they are simply trying to save your life - what they (Christians) don't realize, is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to save or "convert" anyone. The Bible says this also, and clearly states never to force it upon people - in fact, it says if they want nothing to do with it, walk away. Matthew 10:14 - "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town." Some Christians (I'm no exception) are just stubborn.

Besides, one of the MAIN reasons why they are so eager to get you to believe, is because it's as EASY as BELIEVING IN JESUS.

That's it. No tricks. Bible doesn't say to be baptized with "holy water" (no such thing), or to do 20 hail-marys, or to tithe 50% of your paycheck, or to go to Church EVERY DAY, or to do this, or to do that, or to DO ANYTHING.

Because it's not about what WE do, it's about what JESUS did. For further discussion on this, see the thread in my signature.

Anyways.. I'll stop before it seems like I'm trying to shove it down your throat - I'm not, I just want you to realize how easy it is to get to Heaven (remember the Thief on the Cross!), and why so many Christians are eager for you to hear the Good News.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:30 AM
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This world is seriously lacking Jedi, but you don't see me trying to recruit or berate anyone.

I think Christianity is a mental infection, producing hoards of hypoChristians. These people should be either rescued and thrown into Religious detox, or left alone to be racist losers waiting for no one to show up for that 2nd coming.




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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:39 AM
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Matthew 10:14 - "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town."


Matthew would be a Christian I could share a cup of coffee and conversation with..

Thanks and Peace



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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You said here:

"I can usually just accept these religious threads popping up on ATS with a "Live and let live" approach, skim and move on, but lately...WOW! This is getting to be ridiculous with the amount of "God Fearing" threads lately."


And this:

"In the last Month or so there has been an increase in Internet Preachers coming here and condemning us non-believers to your hell because we are not on your path. I see also that most of you are new members within a few Months, weeks and days of joining. Are you gathering your fellow trolls to flood the boards? Do you think this will work?"




The reason i belive the threads have recently increased is because God has been telling His followers that the rapture is about to take place VERY SOON. He commands us to tell other people. His followers obey what He says. So that's possibly why the threads have increased. People are trying to get more people to God because after the rapture takes place within a few weeks/months, the people who are left are really going to be effed. BAD!

The rapture is to take all the people who believed in God to Heaven. The people who are left behind, either they didn't belive in God, or did but didn't accept Him before the rapture took place, will have to face God's wrath.

TRUST ME, I KNOW IT SOUNDS STUPID AND FAKE, LIKE A FAIRY TALE.

I've always belived in God, but until you're saved, a lot of the stuff taought in the bible really does sound like fairytales. But it's when you start to belive it then you see that's it's not. It's impossible for your eyes to be opened by God to it, if you simply just outright refuse to believe.

But anyways. God's wrath will happen through destruction to the planet. It's too sinful. He created people and the Earth and they're sinning and even refuse to believe in Him. No wonder He's had enough. America will get the worst of it, starting with a megaquake in California in the coming weeks. It's all over youtube, go watch the videos, just type in god will destroy california, or something like that. He's been giving warning to people on youtube and telling them to spread the word. California is home of porn, hollywood, homosexuality, and other sins....God has had enough honselty. (not trying to sound self-righteuos, but this really is the truth.)

But only because God's allowing it, for his purpose.
Anyways, I'm just saying that He doesn't WANT to people to face his wrath. He's literally giving ppl a free ticket to escape HELL, the wrath he's about to hand out to ppl after the rapture, and to go to heaven instead.

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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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And if yo don't believe anything I just said, (because like I said i know this sounds fake to ppl who don't believe in God) please belive this::

When millions of ppl dissappear in a few weeks/months time, DON'T BELIEVE WHATEVER THE GOV'T OR SCIENTISTS SAY IS THE REASON IT HAPPENED. The cause of this WILL be the rapture, but the GOV'T will try to cover it up saying it's some stuff about the stupid humans being removed so ppl can ascend into the 5th dimension or some crap like that. Or they'll say the aliens did it. And by the way, the aliens that will invade Earth possibly this year, are just demons working with the Gov't putting on a show. It will happen AFTER the rapture takes place. The gov't might try to say the aliens took the christians away. IDK. But it will be jesus.

God's been trying to warn people man...that tornado outbreak 2 weeks ago...japan earthquake 1 year ago...It's only going to get worse ppl...Please at least someone believe. Cuz you don't wanna be here after the rapture. America will get the worst of the destruction. and the crazy part is everything going on in the world has been predicted in the bible, If people would just read it and belive.

Damascus, Syria just got rocked with explosions, yesterday, i think. Look what it says here in the bible about damascus:


Isaiah 17:1-3
New International Version (NIV)

Isaiah 17

A Prophecy Against Damascus

1 A prophecy against Damascus:
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the LORD Almighty.


It's all there. But everyone calls it a fairytale. Last time I checked, fairy tales don't come true.

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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:53 AM
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First off - if anyone's knocking on your door you can safely assume they're Mormons...take that as you will but your average Christian isn't going door to door testifying & trying to convert people...

Second - the most vehement religious threads I see all seem to come from atheists - complaining about someone shoving their beliefs down your throat and then proceeding to do exactly the same thing makes you just as guilty as the people you're complaining about. To use an old cliche: 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Third - I've been noticing that atheists have made a lot of headway the last 10 years - seriously...it's becoming just as widely accepted as religious beliefs are. In fact, I'd argue that you actually have the support of many of the people in the entertainment industry and media. The problem with that is that you're starting to get to the point of overplaying your hand - especially when you're spending so much energy ripping into other peoples belief systems...Better back it down a few notches or backlash will start hurting your cause - human nature being what it is

Plus...nobody likes a whiner...nobody
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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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The reason i belive the threads have recently increased is because God has been telling His followers that the rapture is about to take place within the next couple of months. He commands us to tell other people. His followers obey what He says. So that's possibly why the threads have increased. People are trying to get more people to God because after the rapture takes place within a few weeks/months, the people who are left are really going to be effed. BAD!


Don't tease me. If someone is talking to the aether field of consciousness that speaks English, I want to hear it for myself!

Oh how awesome it must be, to be an ignorant junk food eating hypocrite, and have spoken to the creator of this universe personally, even though there are trillions of galaxies that contain trillions of stars that contain a billion trillion planets... the fact that "God" spoke to someone from Earth, and insists on no meat on Fridays, is so inspiring to me.

It inspires me to commit suicide & hope I'm reborn when the average IQ is over 39.


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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
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The reason i belive the threads have recently increased is because God has been telling His followers that the rapture is about to take place within the next couple of months. He commands us to tell other people. His followers obey what He says. So that's possibly why the threads have increased. People are trying to get more people to God because after the rapture takes place within a few weeks/months, the people who are left are really going to be effed. BAD!


Don't tease me. If someone is talking to the aether field of consciousness that speaks English, I want to hear it for myself!

Oh how awesome it must be, to be an ignorant junk food eating hypocrite, and have spoken to the creator of this universe personally, even though there are trillions of galaxies that contain trillions of stars that contain a billion trillion planets... the fact that "God" spoke to someone from Earth, and insists on no meat on Fridays, is so inspiring to me.

It inspires me to commit suicide & hope I'm reborn when the average IQ is over 39.




I'm just putting the word out dude. Believe what you want. Just don't say people didn't try to tell you.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 03:06 AM
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Nobody has yet made the obvious point;

The "Religion, Faith and Theology" sub-forum of ATS off-topics EXISTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF discussing religion, faith, and theology.
Provided a thread is in the appropriate sub-forum- "Conspiracies in religion" when a conspiracy is involved, "Predictions and prophecies" when Biblical prophecies are involved, or "Religion, Faith and Theology" for other matters, you have no call and no right to complain that Christians are invading places where they don't belong.
It is not the case that "we" are invading "your" forum. We are taking part in the appropriate segments of a forum which is just as much ours as yours.

PS Another sub-forum I forgot, because I don't take part.
The one about "Origins" is designed for the Creation/Evolution debate, so Creationists have every right to get involved.






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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 03:13 AM
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I'm just putting the word out dude. Believe what you want. Just don't say people didn't try to tell you.


If this rapture happens and I'm not taken with this 144,000, after 2 decades of helping the disabled and retarded, mostly due to the NWO food and water toxicity agenda, then the last thing I'll be saying as the giant wave sweeps my house & life away is... "oh man, I was totally warned of this, but didn't repent for my sins of not helping the unfortunate for more than 2 decades...."

I hope there's a lot less than 144,000 priests, nuns, monks, deacons, ministers, rabbis, alter boys, bishops, Jesuits, pastors, 1000s of dedicated Sunday morning parishioners, plus those in schools learning to becomes said Religious careers and anyone Religious I forgot.... or that doesn't leave much room for the rest of us, including you.
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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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Originally posted by Lionhearte
The Bible says this also, and clearly states never to force it upon people - in fact, it says if they want nothing to do with it, walk away.


Interesting...

I'll be sure to remember that one.



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