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Destiny versus Causality

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posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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even the concept of reality that must b in truth cant b to common ground, and that is how any reality is free for what it is always about what is absolutely same in freedom objective terms
all compromises are proven being always to lies and subjective wills, never real nor existing

it is amazing how far u erase the major element of truth in ur mind, truth is principally constant fact

that is how any true argument is totally free as positive always constant itself




posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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it is amazing how far u erase the major element of truth in ur mind


Exactly my point. You cannot always convince a man of the truth, but you can always make him believe a lie.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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and how convincing a man of truth is smthg to mention ? u keep proving how far evil u r
who is a man if it not true? what man speaks of knowing the truth without being a philosopher?
and which philosopher did claim that truth is not the constant element ?? none, how all know that

wat do u want of truth?/ u clearly have no business in

if u want a reason to blame people about wars and destructions it certainly has nothing to do with what is constant while all to urself expectations from



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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u keep proving how far evil u r


And now you are calling me evil. How mature.


if u want a reason to blame people about wars and destructions it certainly has nothing to do with what is constant


You want constant? Try wars. And famine. And poverty. And disease.

CNN should tell you everything you need to know. Google works as well.
edit on CWednesdaypm464632f32America/Chicago04 by Starchild23 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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a basic example is the argument between reincarnation and heaven and hell. Neither side can disprove the other. Perhaps the main reason is because these concepts are abstract- not scientificly provable. Nonetheless, the fact that the two opposing arguments are so strong, and that both arguments have existed since the dawn of recorded religion, indicates that both arguments must contain an element of truth. The middle ground solution is that they are both true. The model that would best fit that would be that when a person dies they exist in a state of harmony or torment in their non physical form- heaven or hell. This can last for any amount of time- but ultimately it ends when the person is reincarnated. Then the person has a lifetime to create/discover a state of harmony, or a state of torment. Whatever they achieve in that life defines them in death, but it's not eternal. What makes this model significant to me is the fact that it is a reflection of our day to day life. Each day we can create/discover harmony or torment. and at the end of the day, when we go to sleep we enter a more or less non-physical state of being- the dream state. This dream state is directly affected by our mood at the end of the day. If we have a bad day then we tend to have a bad night sleep- dreams and all. If, on the other hand, we have a good day, then we tend to sleep and dream well. This is an example of Equivalence- the phenomenon of patterns existing in all levels of life- the smaller levels reflecting the larger levels. In this case- the model of a single day- when you are "born" in the morning- take your first steps- become active and creative in the middle of the day, then grow tired and relax in the evening, and eventually lay down and "die" at the end of the day, is a reflection of the grand model of a single life. Based on that, then heaven and hell is the state of mind that you exist in between lives- like the dreamstate between days.

I hope that makes sense. I'm working on a thread to discuss this and other points more fully. Still, if you are interested in any of this, drop me a line on facebook- facebook.com/WILAWAI

Happy day to you!



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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i dont have the same perspective of those concepts in truth

hell is not torment, it is a forced state to what never state, so the equation result in truth is zero

heaven is not paradise, it is a free state to what always state, so there also the equation result in truth is zero

what always state cant b but its own state
while what never state also stay never state

which prove how hell and heaven are true but objectively not subjects so regarding truth rights only

what never state is for taking fully advantage of truth so being absolutely fake, his being in hell is only for true rights stepped upon, u cant step on truth at the end it would be cleard same
the begining is the end, bc only end is constant so truth
when hell are then truth will flourish its existence start for real

what always state at the end is given back his rights from truth
since by always stating to b free u r being true instead of truth, at the end when there is only truth giving back those rights is making truth life, it is not for the individuals
leave the individual alone without touch in objective facts right and this is the true heaven for it



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