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HC's Ancient Aliens last episode "The Mystery of Puma Punku" DEVASTATED the show haters.

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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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you guys live and breathe the 'coincidence excuse'.

how all these supposedly disparate cultures came to share not only very similar gods and myths but also similar ability and style of building techniques is no coincidence. and then some will say "you don't give the primitive humans enough credit for their determination and ingenuity, they were probably way more advanced than us today." without realizing they are acknowledging the need for a high tech civilization as their answer. Rubbing stones with ropes and leaves will not give you the same results as are found at PP, I don't care how much you guys cry that it can be done. Low tech also does not address the time frames we are locked into with the commonly accepted time frames IF they can even tell when the things were built. Sure you can erode stone with water but it takes a million years or so. Does it follow more rationally that human people ten thousand years ago were smashing atoms or that an already advanced species of people are responsible?




posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by WingedBull
 

you guys live and breathe the 'coincidence excuse'.

We're not talking a simultaneous fluorescence of identical technology over several continents. We're talking about groups individually reaching a certain social complexity within a span of some 10,000 years, each producing monumental architecture. That's not what you'd call coincidence.
edit on 30-3-2012 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because...ok?



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy
you guys live and breathe the 'coincidence excuse'.

how all these supposedly disparate cultures came to share not only very similar gods and myths


For all the similarities Enki and Quetzalcoatl may share, there are far more differences.

For instance, Quetzalcoatl was associated with Venus in the morning. Enki was, however, associated with what we now call Pegasus. The astrological aspects creates problems for ancient alien proponents. If Quetzalcoatl and Enki were the same entity, why were they associated with different parts of the sky?


Originally posted by bottleslingguy
but also similar ability and style of building techniques is no coincidence


There are ziggurats in Pumapunku?


Originally posted by bottleslingguy
Rubbing stones with ropes and leaves will not give you the same results as are found at PP, I don't care how much you guys cry that it can be done. Low tech also does not address the time frames we are locked into with the commonly accepted time frames IF they can even tell when the things were built.


Who cares what all the evidence says? It doesn't fit your conclusions, therefore it must be ignored.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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Giorgio is onto something, clearly. But he is an atheist with a nuts and bolts agenda. Graham Hancock is hands-down the most popular researcher in forbidden archaeology, and has contributed a lot of great research to all of this. Yet, since Hancock has gone "New Age" or spiritual, Giorgio will not even feature him on the show. Or am I wrong? Have they done a show about Hancock's recent book "Supernatural"? I doubt it. He has an agenda and he is extremely narcissistic and full of himself, this Giorgio character. He basically acts like he thinks he is a rock star. Vanity never got anybody anywhere, for long...



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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why are we focusing on the people?



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy

you guys live and breathe the 'coincidence excuse'.

how all these supposedly disparate cultures came to share not only very similar gods and myths but also similar ability and style of building techniques is no coincidence. and then some will say "you don't give the primitive humans enough credit for their determination and ingenuity, they were probably way more advanced than us today." without realizing they are acknowledging the need for a high tech civilization as their answer. Rubbing stones with ropes and leaves will not give you the same results as are found at PP, I don't care how much you guys cry that it can be done. Low tech also does not address the time frames we are locked into with the commonly accepted time frames IF they can even tell when the things were built. Sure you can erode stone with water but it takes a million years or so. Does it follow more rationally that human people ten thousand years ago were smashing atoms or that an already advanced species of people are responsible?


It's been said 100 times they split the rock...AND they had access to harder substances to smooth the rock too after splitting..

This below is from PP's quarry and it is the typical rock splitting method used for 1000s of years all over the earth...why is this so hard to believe? Proof has been spelled out over and over in multiple posts and people continue to say "show proof" Geez...










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posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero
This below is from PP's quarry and it is the typical rock splitting method used for 1000s of years all over the earth...why is this so hard to believe?


Because, in their minds, the Pre-Columbian Americans were ignorant savages, barely out of the stone-age.


Originally posted by Xtrozero
Proof has been spelled out over and over in multiple posts and people continue to say "show proof" Geez...


It is a willful ignorance. They don't mean "show me proof," what they mean is "show proof that supports my beliefs." Any evidence that does not fit their beliefs is to be ignored. That willful ignorance is what the ancient alien proponents thrive on.
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posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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Do you have a source for that image?

Thanks in advance.



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Perhaps here
www.flickr.com...

More quarry images here
tripwow.tripadvisor.com...
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posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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its so hard because its not about proof, but about believing.





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posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by anti72


its so hard because its not about proof, but about believing.



Ah... Faith....

Maybe that is why those that believe that ancient stone work was not possible without aliens have their own dogma that prevents them from seeing anything else as a reason...kind of like evolution and Adam and Eve....



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
Perhaps here
www.flickr.com...
Thanks for that, but I couldn't see any reference to Puma Punku.


tripwow.tripadvisor.com... -2392
Amazing how people like to turn photos into a useless video.



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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I think it's actually from Machu Pichu but it does display how splitting was done.



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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I just can't understand how a smart guy like you can believe you can do this and produce what we see at PP.

try cutting a dovetail joint that way. whoever did this was probably exploiting a natural crack, it has nothing to do with what we see there.



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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that's exploiting a natural crack and basically comparing apples to atom smashers



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by anti72


its so hard because its not about proof, but about believing.



Ah... Faith....

Maybe that is why those that believe that ancient stone work was not possible without aliens have their own dogma that prevents them from seeing anything else as a reason...kind of like evolution and Adam and Eve....


exactly. thats the reason why it doesnt make sense any more posting that the temple of Abydos dont depict helicopters. Tomorrow there will be another hydra head that comes up with that BS.

cheers



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy
whoever did this was probably exploiting a natural crack, it has nothing to do with what we see there.
No, that's a known method of cutting stone, although it probably came from someone noticing how large rocks break along natural cracks.

That method cannot be used to carve the rock, obviously.

Edit: you can see in the video below how a man using a modernized version of the same technique (using metal tools and a pneumatic drill) was able to cut a large rock in smaller pieces.


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posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by WingedBull
 

you guys live and breathe the 'coincidence excuse'.

We're not talking a simultaneous fluorescence of identical technology over several continents. We're talking about groups individually reaching a certain social complexity within a span of some 10,000 years, each producing monumental architecture. That's not what you'd call coincidence.
edit on 30-3-2012 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because...ok?


I forget exactly who ( maybe anunnakibastard) but someone posted close ups of the stones at megalithic sites from around the world and they all have the same style of carved right angles and blocks that fit like puzzle pieces. People love to say how smart people were back then ( and I don't doubt they were as smart as we are today no matter what race they belong to) in order to have been able to manipulate stones at unheard of today scales. And then when they tell us straight out they didn't do the work- we can't take their word for it because they are telling fairy tails? Isn't THAT racist?



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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ice can split rocks so what? seriously, I get it, I know rocks can be split in various ways. That doesn't explain something like the one in Baalbek where it is still attached at the base something like five meters down in a trench that is less than three feet wide on both sides. Or the dovetail joints and inset precision cuts repeated symmetrically over and over at PP. You guys aren't gaining nearly as much traction as you think and even stupid wikipedia says nobody really knows how they did half this stuff



posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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4:15 whole-life-flashes-before-your-eyes moment lol



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