It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Satan Is Not A Real Being

page: 4
22
<< 1  2  3    5  6  7 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 08:07 PM
link   
One word

Fail

Satan is real and he wants your soul to separate you from Jesus Christ




posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 08:15 PM
link   
[color=Magenta]I have been in the presence of Lucifer. He has a brilliant purple aura with the voice of infinite anger and fear.reply to post by Starchild23
 


When I was fourteen years old I was visited by Lucifer. I perceived his presence with my spiritual eyes though my eyes were open and I was completely awake and aware. He was sitting on his throne that was made up of an uncountable number of people all worshiping at his feet. When he spoke all the people at his feet spoke with him. It was as if they were all one voice. Lucifer's voice rained supreme. His first words were for me to worship him. He claimed he was GOD. I knew instantly who he was and refused. I began to pray. I was so afraid. While I prayed the voice kept taunting me. If I loved God I would allow them to kill me. I of course agreed that death would be welcomed compared to worshiping at his feet. No sooner after I accepted my fate I could feel them spitting and insulting me saying God would never allow them to kill me. I kept praying then all of a sudden I was filled with this white all encompassing energy/light and they were gone. This is only one experience I have had with Lucifer or his minions. I am sure I am not the only person with these experiences. I agree with most of what you wrote. We all have the flesh to contend with as well as Lucifer who is very real!



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 10:00 PM
link   

Originally posted by Starchild23
Lucifer isn't really separate from us, nor is Satan.

Before all of you jump down my throat, let me explain. I'm going to take four examples from modern Christianity, and explain the metaphors. Satan and Lucifer are, to me, interchangeable ,so the names will change...but I'll be talking about the same entity regardless.

First, we have Lucifer threatening to rise above God, so he gets cast down. Then we see him tempting Eve in the Garden of Eden. Also, we have Jesus battling him for 40 days out in the middle of nowhere. And we are told that Lucifer has power over this realm.

Alright. I'll start by saying Lucifer is nothing more than "desires of the flesh." Desires of the flesh threatened to take over the higher consciousness (God) so it was cast down. Desires of the flesh tempted Eve, and so she was corrupt. Thus, Adam and Eve were directed away from the garden.

Jesus (as difficult as it may be to accept this) struggled with the desires of his flesh for 40 days before he finally mastered them. Perhaps he was conquering personal demons, perhaps it was something else. But his flesh battled him those 40 days...hence, the appearance of "Satan".

Lucifer has power over this world? Desires of the flesh. Every single person alive lives, works and dies for the desires of the flesh. It is all we know now.

Lucifer was never a physical being, but a concept. A trait. Our trait.

Every one of our flaws comes from the desires of our flesh...otherwise known as Satan. Not a demon. Just us.


Namaste




edit on CSaturdayam515102f02America/Chicago17 by Starchild23 because: (no reason given)


Satan is a real being, he is a spiritual being.
Job 1:6-8
One day the angels[a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan answered the LORD, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

Humans are real beings, they are spiritual beings.
Job 1:20-22
At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship and said:
“Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I will depart.
The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised.”
In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.

Animals are spiritual beings.
Isaiah 43:20
-The wild animals will thank me. The large animals and birds will honor me when I put water in the desert and make rivers flow through that dry land. I will do this to give water to my chosen people.

The winds and the waves are spiritual beings.

Matthew 8:26-27
Jesus answered, “Why are you afraid? You don’t have enough faith.” Then he stood up and gave a command to the wind and the water. The wind stopped, and the lake became very calm.
The men were amazed. They said, “What kind of man is this? Even the wind and the water obey him!”


Neither Satan nor you nor I nor Jesus nor winds and waves are one and the same spiritual beings, we each are our own spiritual being and have effects on one another spiritually, for God is a spiritual creator and can destroy both body and soul in hell. Jesus said, : Matthew 10:28
"Don't be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

The soul will either live eternally or be destroyed, the Bible says those who have trusted the promises of God are going to be given a new body - one that will never die. We, as spiritual beings, serve a purpose, have impact and influence on one another. This is why Jesus said: "Anyone who isn't with me opposes me, and anyone who isn't working with me is actually working against me. -Luke 11:23
The winds and the waves are under the authority of Jesus, Jesus commanded the wind and the water to stop what it was doing and it listened and obeyed!
What you call the "desires of our flesh" are the same desires of the mind and the subconscious/spirit/heart. In other words, we ultimately do (outwardly)what we(inwardly) desire to do. As a man thinketh in his hearth, so is he.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 10:10 PM
link   

Originally posted by Starchild23

Originally posted by Tarrasque
Seriously...

When are people going to figure out that the biblical (fictional) Satan is entirely different from Lucifer, The light bringer.


Lucifer IS Satan. They just changed his name when he was cast down.


I don't believe that is so.
I believe lucifer is satans female hybrid firstborn.lucifer is satan in the same way gwb is a bush, as is ghwb a bush.
Legend knows her by many names, such as lilith



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 10:14 PM
link   
If Satan doesn't exist, then does "evil"?

And if "evil" did exist....Wouldn't there be a Head or Leader of it or the most evil?

What about the atrocities of this world?



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 10:15 PM
link   

Originally posted by BrokenCircles
reply to post by Starchild23
 


In other words: [color=42F2FF]Lucifer is your scapegoat.

What you could do, is man up and take responsibility for your own actions.

Right, that's why maynard BEGGED us to chant ' hail satan' at one of his shows.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 10:19 PM
link   
reply to post by BrokenCircles
 


I fully take responsiblitiy for my own actions and decisions. I do not blame my own short comings on anyone but myself, but there are other entities out there and quite a few are really really very unpleasant...I remain sober at all times to ensure they can not try for a hi-jack or "walk in".

Glad you've never experienced it.



posted on Mar, 17 2012 @ 11:14 PM
link   

Originally posted by Signals
If Satan doesn't exist, then does "evil"?

And if "evil" did exist....Wouldn't there be a Head or Leader of it or the most evil?

What about the atrocities of this world?

I find all the world's atrocities an issue of ego. Ego is the illusion of desire, the illusion of duality. What do those things lead to? Greed, intolerance, fear, prejudice, ignorance, envy, and of course selfishness and several other aspects of the psyche. If all these things were wiped clear of our minds, what would be left? Compassion, temperance, wisdom, selflessness... would there be atrocities with that kind of mindset?


The heavenly realms are completely devoid of such negativity ("Evil"), which is why we come to this realm to experience what it's like to be "human". If the heavens are a kingdom, then walking out of the gates and into the wilderness is Earth and the universe that we're currently in. So, we are in the wilderness where anything goes, as a trial, as an experience, working off karma, whatever the case may be. One of a multitude of reasons is for contrast because pain and suffering exist here. Think of parents that try to teach their children the value of a hard-earned dollar so that they don't go spending on bull#, even when the family is fairly prosperous.




Originally posted by threewhiteeyes

Originally posted by BrokenCircles
reply to post by Starchild23
 


In other words: [color=42F2FF]Lucifer is your scapegoat.

What you could do, is man up and take responsibility for your own actions.

Right, that's why maynard BEGGED us to chant ' hail satan' at one of his shows.
Maynard loves to troll.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 01:21 AM
link   

Originally posted by CaLyps0
One word

Fail

Satan is real and he wants your soul to separate you from Jesus Christ


three words, intollerant antisemitic racist...

So in fact you are suggesting that all other religions (also the older ones) besides christianity are from the devil because they don't accept, or talk about JC as messiahs...

Nice try, think before you speak.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 01:23 AM
link   
Cant have good without the bad, eh?




posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 01:32 AM
link   

Originally posted by BiggerPicture
Cant have good without the bad, eh?



In other religions the "good vs bad" thing is also very well explained. In christianity it is like "JC died for my sins and if I sinned the devil made me do it, so I'm still without sin" and I don;t like that idea very much, sounds very immature and irresponsible to me. In most of the other religions it is your own fault and responsibility, and it can be forgiven but this is also your own responsibility how you deal with it in the future.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 01:36 AM
link   
Well thats religions, they are made up belief systems meant to control for the most part.

What about good vs evil in karma? It's more neutral cause-and-effect.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 01:41 AM
link   

Originally posted by BiggerPicture
Well thats religions, they are made up belief systems meant to control for the most part.

What about good vs evil in karma? It's more neutral cause-and-effect.


I don't really know, it sounds logic to me that if you thread a person bad he or she will react negative I call that just logic.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 05:53 AM
link   
I have seen Lucifer and his cohorts daily!

On CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc.

Grow up, people. It's 2012! Time to grow out of fairy tales and mythologies once and for all.

Lol at the people using a modern pc yet believing in an imaginary Pan character.



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 05:57 AM
link   
Come on ,good bad, white black, day night ,Bundy The Pope



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 05:59 AM
link   
Ephesians 6:12

12) "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 06:10 AM
link   
Ezekial 28:13-19

13 "You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,
topaz, onyx and jasper,
lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.
Your settings and mountings were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.
14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
16 Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
17 Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.
18 By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries.
So I made a fire come out from you,
and it consumed you,
and I reduced you to ashes on the ground
in the sight of all who were watching.
19 All the nations who knew you
are appalled at you;
you have come to a horrible end
and will be no more.’”

edit on 18-3-2012 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 06:17 AM
link   
2 Corinthians 11:13-15

13) "For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
14) And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15) It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve."



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 06:29 AM
link   
2 Thessalonians 2:6-8

6) "And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
7) For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
8) And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming."



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 06:35 AM
link   
Starchild23:

Either you live in ignorance or the words you say are deception.

Do you not know this realm (cyberspace) is the domain of the discarnate agents of Satan?

Portals to our earthly domain are being widened as we speak.
Hell on Earth is the conspiracy and is the agenda of the wicked.

I do not believe you are of the evil one.

See beyond your senses.
The evil ones are yet lawful and represent by name and image.

You straddle the fence of good and evil.

Return to Righteousness.



new topics

top topics



 
22
<< 1  2  3    5  6  7 >>

log in

join