DHS to buy 450 million rounds of ammo...why?, page 1


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Topic started on 16-3-2012 @ 06:42 PM by gladtobehere
ATK Secures .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE)

ANOKA, Minn., March 12, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- ATK /quotes/zigman/217145/quotes/nls/atk ATK +0.25% announced that it is being awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) agreement from the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE) for .40 caliber ammunition. This contract features a base of 12 months, includes four option years, and will have a maximum volume of 450 million rounds.

Seem like a bit errr much for a department which does nothing.

Well ICE is under DHS right? But do border guards really need 450 MILLION rounds? And thats just .40 caliber. Im sure they have other caliber guns as well.

Something isnt right here. Theyre getting ramped up for something BIG.




reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 06:46 PM by Bonkrh
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i read that the obama administration is trying to ban lead bullets. maybe they are trying to buy before it happens?
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reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 06:51 PM by gladtobehere
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As is the TSA and their VIPER Teams.

The US isnt safe anymore. Government gone wild.


reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 06:53 PM by gladtobehere
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Good point. I'm a pretty fast runner so they'll probably miss me on the first couple of tries, hopefully..




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reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 06:55 PM by justwokeup
They aren't actually going to buy 450 million rounds. The clue is in the type of contract.

en.wikipedia.org...

This is a mechanism for having an ammo supplier on retainer to avoid having to keep running competitive tenders every time some department needs more ammo.


reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 07:00 PM by reitze
Originally posted by Bonkrh
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post by gladtobehere



i read that the obama administration is trying to ban lead bullets. maybe they are trying to buy before it happens?
edit on 16-3-2012 by Bonkrh because: (no reason given)



OMG, that's treason - yet another constitutional U turn against his oath of office. Even if he could have been born in HI that's LO.

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reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 07:07 PM by DarwinianLaw
As well as these other agencies under DHS.....seems normal to me....

Agencies:

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services: Processes and examines citizenship, residency, and asylum requests from aliens.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection: Law enforcement agency that enforces U.S. laws along its international borders (air, land, and sea) including its enforcement of U.S. immigration, customs, and agriculture laws while at and patrolling between all U.S. ports-of-entry.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement: Law enforcement agency divided into two bureaus:

1.An agency that enforces U.S. laws while it investigates and gathers intelligence on national and international criminal activities that threaten the security of the homeland (Homeland Security Investigations); and

2.An agency that investigates violations of the Immigration and Nationality Act and enforces the detention, deportation and removal of violators of United States immigration law (Enforcement and Removal Operations).

Transportation Security Administration: Responsible for aviation security (domestic and international, most notably conducting passenger screenings at airports), as well as land and water transportation security

United States Coast Guard: Military service responsible for law enforcement, maritime security, national defense, maritime mobility, and protection of natural resources.[12]

United States Secret Service: Law enforcement agency that investigates threats against and provides protective services for the President and Vice President of the United States and their immediate families as well as other important governmental officials. It also investigates crimes against the U.S. monetary system including the crime of counterfeiting U.S. currency and other financial instruments.

Federal Emergency Management Agency: agency that oversees the federal government's response to natural disasters like earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, forest fires, etc.


WIKI


reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 07:24 PM by Domo1
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Alternatively they need ammo to supply the tens of thousands of people that carry a service weapon for training/carry purposes. Even if the 450 million total were reached that's a relatively low number if you factor in training. Especially over 4 years time. This is a non issue. If anything I would hope that LE would get more bullets, train better and be better equipped if they had a shootout. I would imagine every dept. and field office also has reserves in the armory. I really just don't see the issue.


reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 07:28 PM by AaronWilson
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Yes. I did jump on the topic and not the issue. Its my honest mistake. Ill try not to let it happen again.


reply posted on 16-3-2012 @ 09:07 PM by DoNotForgetMe
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ATS is one site of MANY that has alot of anti-TPTB gab. TPTB are seeing the light, but as usual instead of bowing out gracefully They plan on standing their ground. I hate guns but I hope the citizens that own them stock up as well.



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