Santorum jumps the shark. Pledges to make porn illegal

Bible = porn

Originally posted by SaturnFX
you got to set up a committee where a bunch of men sit in a room and watch every single video from every single porn, and surf the web all day and night to decide what is hard and what is not hard.
its a tough job...luckily it pays well..good benefits also.
It can be a work from home job though, so that's an added advantage.

I applied

LOL - - - I was listening to Michaelangelo Signorelli on OutQ radio. They were talking about this female public school teacher who was presenting her anti-gay Family Values viewpoint in some government meeting.

They were cracking up - - because they had to actually look up some of the names she presented in her speech of the "vile" sexual behaviors of gays.

Of course they were all just Fetishes which have no gender boundary. She must have enjoyed her "research" - - - because that was one long list.

Originally posted by colbe

SATURN,

YEAH, YOU ARE DEFENDING A "CHOICE" TO DO AN EVIL WHICH
IS AGAINST GOD.

That is the doer's choice to make, not yours. You are not the intermediary between man and God, nor do you have any sort of right, God-given or otherwise, to deny them the right to make their own choices. By doing so, you rob them of their chance to choose in favor of salvation.

By trying to do your version of "God's work", you are working against God's plan.

DEFEND PORNOGRAPHY AS GOOD THEN, YOU
CAN'T. YOU MAKE ME SMILE,

He didn't defend pornography as "good", he defended the ability of the individual to make their own choice in the matter. As much as I love disagreeing with SaturnFX, and as bad as it pains me to agree with him, SatrunFX is right. There I said it, and threw stars to back that up. In reality, SaturnFX, an anti-religionist at heart, is far closer to doing God's work than you are, for all your self-righteous hubris.

God allows us to make out own choices, and you would countermand God, and take that ability to choose - for either good or evil - away.

Originally posted by redhorse

The whole "What qualifies as""hardcore" remains unclear" has me flummoxed. Is there some social general consensus out there that I don't know about? Does anyone here know what is Officially "hardcore porn"? Or, are we stuck with Mr. Santorums definition? Which then begs the obvious question... How the hell was he able to come up with a consensus on what is hardcore and what is not? I'll bet he is an expert.

I know from a High school government assignment there are only 3 things the American federal government defines as obscene. The three are: Child pornography; Bestiality; and Snuff films.
This info was from 1998- I doubt it's changed.

Anything more than that is technically fine for the American Population.
I will also point out the idea of pornography is a Victorian construct.
And finally, I will say, I met an ex-porn star 8 years ago, we still remain in contact. And from listening from her stories about that time of her life, working in porn is not much different than any other entertainment discipline.
Actually being a model is a far less healthy, and more exploited lifestyle.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by jacktorrance
reply to post by Wide-Eyes

 

What porn have you guys been watching?

Ha! This is a little late, and someone else may have already responded, but there is some CRAZY stuff out there.

How about we stick to all forms of LEGAL porn.

That's what Santorum is doing - he just want's to move the bar on what's "legal".

Porn is a grave mortal sin, imagine your daughter or sister involved?

Today, I heard about President Reagan, he established a Pornography Commission, Jesus Mercy, how much worse it is to today!

On May 21, 1984, Reagan announced his intention to appoint the Attorney General to study the effect of pornography on society.

Santorum's goodness reminds me of Reagan.

Originally posted by colbe
Porn is a grave mortal sin, imagine your daughter or sister involved?

All of my daughters and sisters are quite old enough to make their own choices. Some of them have chosen poorly, but that is their choice to make.

Today, I heard about President Reagan, he established a Pornography Commission, Jesus Mercy, how much worse it is to today!

On May 21, 1984, Reagan announced his intention to appoint the Attorney General to study the effect of pornography on society.

Santorum's goodness reminds me of Reagan.

Santorum is no Reagan - not even close.

reply to post by TKDRL

Can we give bible thumpers their own state to live in please?

How about we just give them to the Vatican, and wash our hands of them altogether.

And see how Vatican city houses and feeds them all. They can afford it, there's no question about that...

reply to post by colbe

The fact is our soul is eternal, you and me will choose Heaven or hell and if you defend an evil mocking those who declare it to be an evil, you will stand before God with your choice.

Hey, colbe...
someone told me you were over here ....
now I understand why the other day you accused me of promoting porn...you were immersed in this thread that I have never looked at until they pointed me here....
you're not keeping your opponents straight, is that it?

So....you "bore false witness against me" right here on ATS....accusing me of promoting porn, when I have NEVER even addressed it.....
are you going to apologize for that? Repent at confessoin?

And, not to derail this thread, but your comment above speaks VOLUMES about hypocrisy...when you are defending the evil that the Catholic Church deploys on a daily basis, by not leaving the faith when you KNOW what they are doing. You are defending an evil, and mocking those who declare it to be an evil.

YOU will stand before God with your choice. That applies here, but not regarding the atrocities of the Catholics through-out history?

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by colbe

 

The fact is our soul is eternal, you and me will choose Heaven or hell and if you defend an evil mocking those who declare it to be an evil, you will stand before God with your choice.

Hey, colbe...
someone told me you were over here ....
now I understand why the other day you accused me of promoting porn...you were immersed in this thread that I have never looked at until they pointed me here....
you're not keeping your opponents straight, is that it?

So....you "bore false witness against me" right here on ATS....accusing me of promoting porn, when I have NEVER even addressed it.....
are you going to apologize for that? Repent at confessoin?

And, not to derail this thread, but your comment above speaks VOLUMES about hypocrisy...when you are defending the evil that the Catholic Church deploys on a daily basis, by not leaving the faith when you KNOW what they are doing. You are defending an evil, and mocking those who declare it to be an evil.

YOU will stand before God with your choice. That applies here, but not regarding the atrocities of the Catholics through-out history?

You're silly wildtimes, I love you dear sister. Don't start anti-Catholic
threads, you'll get called on them.

What I said in quotes is true about everyone who defends an evil.
We account for everything we do and say, here or over the veil.

Have you read some of the insane replies here defending pornography?

You asked...."What say You?" I am a Catholic and replied.

And on your thread attacking the faith, I didn't defend the scandal, I
corrected you and explained why it's happening and shared a positive,
a special prayer from a famous Saint of Ireland for Ireland. Heaven
is aware. The prayer was given on St. Patrick's Day by St. Patrick
to a Polish prophet.

reply to post by colbe

I didn't defend the scandal, I corrected you

What? No, you didn't. And it isn't an anti-Catholic thread. All you did was gloss over it with some channeler's prayer.

I glanced at the thread here, because you had falsely accused me, but this is off topic here. I don't care about porn (except as it exploits children and women), but I do care that a Catholic wants to be president. No Way Jose.

No way. Nope.
He's no JFK (or Reagan) for that matter.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by colbe

 

The fact is our soul is eternal, you and me will choose Heaven or hell and if you defend an evil mocking those who declare it to be an evil, you will stand before God with your choice.

Hey, colbe...
someone told me you were over here ....
now I understand why the other day you accused me of promoting porn...you were immersed in this thread that I have never looked at until they pointed me here....
you're not keeping your opponents straight, is that it?

So....you "bore false witness against me" right here on ATS....accusing me of promoting porn, when I have NEVER even addressed it.....
are you going to apologize for that? Repent at confessoin?

And, not to derail this thread, but your comment above speaks VOLUMES about hypocrisy...when you are defending the evil that the Catholic Church deploys on a daily basis, by not leaving the faith when you KNOW what they are doing. You are defending an evil, and mocking those who declare it to be an evil.

YOU will stand before God with your choice. That applies here, but not regarding the atrocities of the Catholics through-out history?

"immersed" You posted, kinda makes sense, no knowing of thread and
then hearing of it. It usually goes that way wildtimes.

My replies, porn will put you in hell if it goes unconfessed. And a reminder, you responded here putting down and joking about Christians. Similar to your other thread attacking the priests in Ireland and hierarchy of the Church.

Do you see now, scandal and porn...everyone is capable of sin wildtimes,

Another reason for my posts here because I am for Santorum, he is a good man. I don't want another non-Christian in the White House. Look what happened without God's help.

love,


colbe

reply to post by colbe


Santorum is about as "good" as the Ayatollah in Iran

He spits on the constitution and wants to turn the entire country into a theocracy. You might agree with his bigotry, but it also means that you can't call yourself a patriot.

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by colbe

 

I didn't defend the scandal, I corrected you

What? No, you didn't. And it isn't an anti-Catholic thread. All you did was gloss over it with some channeler's prayer.
I glanced at the thread here, because you had falsely accused me, but this is off topic here. I don't care about porn (except as it exploits children and women), but I do care that a Catholic wants to be president. No Way Jose.

No way. Nope.
He's no JFK (or Reagan) for that matter.

edit on 20-3-2012 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)

You pasted more than a small quote about the scandal in Ireland. What happened to the rule of a small quote and then the link? I shared briefly on why and the good of the faith, your thread subject was old news.

And, I wasn't going to let you get by with accusing everyone in the Vatican with your grand statements.

Why would an anti-Christian start any thread about Catholicism?
It wasn't positive, it was to get the negative replies and you got them.

You made a joke and mock of Christians here, I can post your response but that's childish. You didn't defend Christians.

reply to post by colbe

you responded here putting down and joking about Christians. Similar to your other thread attacking the priests in Ireland and hierarchy of the Church.

I am NOT JOKING. I am SICKENED by the Catholic church.
Where you see "joking" and "anti-Christian" in my posts or threads is completely beyond me, and your perception alone.
I was not ATTACKING priests, I am asking why Catholics are not as angry about the atrocities of their own LEADERS as they are about porn, or whatever.

IF Santorum is part of the Catholic faith, AND the Catholic faith is responsible for untold numbers of atrocities, including money-laundering, sodomy, murder, torture, excommunication, greed, pedophilia, misogyny, corruption and scandal...
(both of which are true),

WHY would I want him to be President?!!!
Answer: I would not. In fact, I would rather not be an American than have a Catholic president.
*shudders*

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by colbe

 

Santorum is about as "good" as the Ayatollah in Iran

He spits on the constitution and wants to turn the entire country into a theocracy. You might agree with his bigotry, but it also means that you can't call yourself a patriot.

Yeah, of course, from someone who spits on the Bible and mocks
Christianity in every thread he can find about it.

reply to post by colbe


Pointing out that the Catholic church tried to cover up cases of child molestation for DECADES isn't "joking about religion". Quite the contrary, it's pointing out difficult facts that shine light on issues within the Catholic church. Your religious brainwashing prevents you from thinking rationally, so you simply ignore anything negative about your belief and church...and that's kinda sad. It shows you can't think for yourself anymore, and simply trust on being force feed your opinions.

The Catholic church hid those horrible cases of pedophile behavior and often simply relocated priests and bishops to cover it up!

reply to post by colbe

You pasted more than a small quote about the scandal in Ireland. What happened to the rule of a small quote and then the link? I shared briefly on why and the good of the faith, your thread subject was old news.

And, I wasn't going to let you get by with accusing everyone in the Vatican with your grand statements.

Why would an anti-Christian start any thread about Catholicism?

That rule is for quoting other members' statements when replying. I didn't go over the limit of posting the articleS.

I wasn't accusing everyone in the Vatican, either. I am asking why Catholics don't GET RID of the scandalous members or LEAVE the faith. You can't deny what they have done, nor can you deny what the Vatican has done to cover it up.

Why would anyone start a thread about Catholicism? The same reason anyone would start a thread on ATS exposing corruption and asking the members of the corrupt organization why they stay part of it.

Originally posted by colbe

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by colbe

 

Santorum is about as "good" as the Ayatollah in Iran

He spits on the constitution and wants to turn the entire country into a theocracy. You might agree with his bigotry, but it also means that you can't call yourself a patriot.

Yeah, of course, from someone who spits on the Bible and mocks
Christianity in every thread he can find about it.

Pointing out the FACT that the bible isn't accurate and often demonstrably wrong isn't "spitting on it", it's being rational and logical above being a brainwashed religious sheep

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by colbe

 

you responded here putting down and joking about Christians. Similar to your other thread attacking the priests in Ireland and hierarchy of the Church.

I am NOT JOKING. I am SICKENED by the Catholic church.
Where you see "joking" and "anti-Christian" in my posts or threads is completely beyond me, and your perception alone.
I was not ATTACKING priests, I am asking why Catholics are not as angry about the atrocities of their own LEADERS as they are about porn, or whatever.

IF Santorum is part of the Catholic faith, AND the Catholic faith is responsible for untold numbers of atrocities, including money-laundering, sodomy, murder, torture, excommunication, greed, pedophilia, misogyny, corruption and scandal...
(both of which are true),

WHY would I want him to be President?!!!
Answer: I would not. In fact, I would rather not be an American than have a Catholic president.
*shudders*

Why would a professed anti-Christian start a thread about a scandal
in Catholicism? It's obvious.

Oooooh, more grand general statements. All negative...hmmm?

Everything you know of Christ comes from the RCC. You should be
grateful but Our Lord means nothing to you, your stance, you don't need Jesus Christ.