Santorum jumps the shark. Pledges to make porn illegal

reply to post by intrepid


No. The internet was not around when the Constitution was written. Frankly, the Constitution needs to be rewritten to include electronic information. Until this happens, the internet is doomed to be regulated.

Again, allow me to state that I do not believe that all forms of porn be available on the internet. I think that controversial stuff should be sold in stores where only 18 and up can purchase it.

I'll also reiterate that your freedoms are not be limited as long as you can get want you want somewhere. Just because it's not online doesn't mean that you are being deprived. If Santorum was made president and he shut down everything including adult stores, I'll be rallying right beside you. Until then, I'll be happy getting into my car and going to the adult stores. Looking at porn online makes me too nervous. I'm afraid of viruses and links to other things that are illegal. At least at "Allen's Adult Store", I know that the video is clean of viruses and nothing can be downloaded to make me look like I'm interested in things I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

With this many wack jobs running for president you know it's only a matter of time before one gets in.

Our society is sexually repressed enough as is.

If you take away the porn, violent crimes against each other will likely rise dramatically..

This is just mindless.

I'd rather we teach the next generation right, let them have their doctor time as kids, sexual escapades as adolescents, and grow up to have stable relationships without the need of porn, but as is...this is blow-back for social programming that goes against our instinctual yearnings.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by Annee

I'm still a registered Republican

-head explodes-

Originally posted by Afterthought
He's off his rocker.
It has been shown in the past that rapes and sexual assaults sky rocket when porn is not available.

If he was only concerned about cracking down on child pornography and violent S&M, I'd be OK with this. ALL porn? I don't think that's a very good idea at all.

Plus, theres a big confusion on how porn objectifies women. When men watch porn we admire the woman's beauty, her sexual hunger, her willingness to do some really hot stuff.

But, who's the guy with the penis? Answer: Who cares?! So, it's the men that are made into objects in porn, not the women.

Our new motto: Give me porn, or give me free sex provided by my health insurance!

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by intrepid

 

No. The internet was not around when the Constitution was written.

Neither were phones, TV's, radio. I fail to see your point.

reply to post by unityemissions

sexual escapades as adolescents, and grow up to have stable relationships without the need of porn, but as is...this is blow-back for social programming that goes against our instinctual yearnings.

Thanks for bringing this up. I'm so glad the internet wasn't around when I was younger.

I used to teach 9th grade. I've heard 13-15 year olds talking about the sex parties they go to, the STDs they've gotten, and I've even had a couple of female students tell me not to go to a site called "Two Girls and One Cup".

We have the internet to thank for the above.

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by intrepid

 

No. The internet was not around when the Constitution was written. Frankly, the Constitution needs to be rewritten to include electronic information. Until this happens, the internet is doomed to be regulated.

Again, allow me to state that I do not believe that all forms of porn be available on the internet. I think that controversial stuff should be sold in stores where only 18 and up can purchase it.

All forms of porn, violence, and even entertainment is controversial though to some.
You deem over the top violent SM.
Your neighbor deems mild SM controversial
The other neighbor deems any porn that doesn't use proper use of condoms on film (yes, there is legislation being pushed for that).
porn itself is controversial
etc etc etc.

Again, you are requesting a...not slipperly slope, but flat out cliff to be installed...
I thought we had a breakthrough last night on this.
-eyes you-

I am about to send you to your room!!!

reply to post by KJV1611


It's only holy to those that acknowledge it as such. To others, it's a great work of fiction.

Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by Afterthought
He's off his rocker.
It has been shown in the past that rapes and sexual assaults sky rocket when porn is not available.

If he was only concerned about cracking down on child pornography and violent S&M, I'd be OK with this. ALL porn? I don't think that's a very good idea at all.

Plus, theres a big confusion on how porn objectifies women. When men watch porn we admire the woman's beauty, her sexual hunger, her willingness to do some really hot stuff.

But, who's the guy with the penis? Answer: Who cares?! So, it's the men that are made into objects in porn, not the women.

Our new motto: Give me porn, or give me free sex provided by my health insurance!

edit on 3/17/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)

Oh right! As memory serves, the feminist movement was against the objectifying of women in a sexual way, with no touchy feely stuff at the water cooler and so on. Betty Friedan, who wrote the infamous, "The Feminine Mystique", told woman they should not have to wear makeup to be valued by men.

Originally posted by Afterthought

sexual escapades as adolescents, and grow up to have stable relationships without the need of porn, but as is...this is blow-back for social programming that goes against our instinctual yearnings.

Thanks for bringing this up. I'm so glad the internet wasn't around when I was younger.

I used to teach 9th grade. I've heard 13-15 year olds talking about the sex parties they go to, the STDs they've gotten, and I've even had a couple of female students tell me not to go to a site called "Two Girls and One Cup".

We have the internet to thank for the above.

So we repeal the 1st and take the raising of our children out of our hands and put them in governments hands? No thank you. I'll raise my kids if you don't mind.

reply to post by SaturnFX


We reached an agreement?
I proposed a median, you didn't agree.
I believe that not every form of sex should be available online and I'm standing firm on that. There's no cliff here except for the cliff people are going to create themselves. If removing hard core porn from the internet is infringing on your right to view it, you have every right to go to a store and buy it. People are just so whiny anymore. If you're too lazy or embarrassed to go into a store to buy it, that's your problem.

When Santorum is elected and starts shutting down brick and mortar adult stores, I'll be screaming about my right to view porn. Until then, I don't have an issue with it not being available online.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
Santorum won't become president because he's nuts, and Romney won't make it because even though Santorum's nuts, he still can't crush him. Newt won't be president because...well...he's Newt and couldn't get women votes. RP doesn't have the support of the GOP base and also won't make it.

In short, Obama will take this one down. It's just whether he'll have to work a bit for it (Romney), or not at all (Santorum). If Santorum runs against him, it will be like watching a months-long Colbert Report...awesome comedic value. Hell, I hope Santorum runs against him.

Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!! We have a winner! The GOP candidates have all been nutballs. Kind of makes you wonder where the hell they find these guys. I think the GOP could have done better if they went into a back alley, gave a homeless guy a couple hundred bucks, cleaned him up, and stuck him on stage. Though it probably wouldn't be half as entertaining as the pack of current wackos.

I really don't see a problem with online porn. I honestly can't remember the last time a porn site came up in my search results. Maybe it's because I choose to ignore them Idk.

It makes me wonder what some of these religious fanatics and their suppressed children are searching for if porn keeps popping up for them.

Parents have the option to filter the whole world from their kids if that's what they want. All it takes is some effort. It's a sad state when people are too lazy to take control over their own life/kids and want government to do it for them. If internet porn is too tempting for some kids take away their computers and send them to the library.

I thought church/prayer was supposed to keep all that temptation stuff in check? Really shouldn't be a problem for the religious. I don't think the Amish are having a problem with online porn...what a concept they chose to change their own lives instead of forcing change on the rest of us.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Afterthought

sexual escapades as adolescents, and grow up to have stable relationships without the need of porn, but as is...this is blow-back for social programming that goes against our instinctual yearnings.

Thanks for bringing this up. I'm so glad the internet wasn't around when I was younger.

I used to teach 9th grade. I've heard 13-15 year olds talking about the sex parties they go to, the STDs they've gotten, and I've even had a couple of female students tell me not to go to a site called "Two Girls and One Cup".

We have the internet to thank for the above.

So we repeal the 1st and take the raising of our children out of our hands and put them in governments hands? No thank you. I'll raise my kids if you don't mind.

Great job of twisting my words around. That takes real skill. Congratulations.

What kinds of porn did I see when I was 13-15? Playboy/Playgirl magazines and videos I found in my parents' closet. The government has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Originally posted by Afterthought
I've even had a couple of female students tell me not to go to a site called "Two Girls and One Cup".

Thats not a site, thats a video.

that...

-gags-

just..yes..listen to them..

-vomits-

Anyhow..I find most of the younger gen to be dulled with porn actually. Its so accessable, and parents generally suck as a whole, that ya, if they want to see it, they see it without any issue.
And they are pretty much over it.

I find the 30 and above crowd to be far more fascinated with it...probably because such access to it at a younger age didn't exist...sort of like seeking out gold and finding a motherload later in life after many years of barely anything verses simply being born on a pile of gold..

Frankly, the youngins I know today are more intrigued with out-texting their friends, or exploring traditional gender roles than surfing the porn machine as a focus.

Sex has become a bit less potent in todays younger society..yes..true.
I am not sure that this is a bad thing...and if I look overseas at nordic areas where it never was as taboo as the states, and see they are actually far happier and more well adjusted as a people...makes me realize such discussions are based on fear of change more than anything solid to point at.

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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Annee

I'm still a registered Republican

-head explodes-

Yeah - I know.

But I always vote independently.

I think I'm gonna go with "Unaffiliated"

Originally posted by BiggerPicture
Private?

I never understood how Prostitition is illegal,

yet PORN industry (prostitution on film/media) is legal, anyway.

With Porn, people are usually being paid for sex, too.

Not that I disagree with what you are insinuating here, but I'd imagine it has something to do with the fact that the porn industry is just that; an industry. Yes, they both may be being payed to have sex. However, I don't see very many porn stars being drug out to the boonies and left for dead after the encounter. Just my 2c.

Cheers,
Strype

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

We reached an agreement?
I proposed a median, you didn't agree.
I believe that not every form of sex should be available online and I'm standing firm on that. There's no cliff here except for the cliff people are going to create themselves. If removing hard core porn from the internet is infringing on your right to view it

I guess you missed my response.
Yes, he wants to shut down mortor and brick shops
he wants to shut the net down on anything showing hardcore porn
he wants to eliminate those subscription channels on cable
he wants to stop mail order porn
etc etc etc.

What part don't you understand about this?

Tell me though
Who the F are you to tell me what I can watch when its all consenting adults?
Who are you? Would you come up to my face and tell me what positions are acceptable to you and what arent?

Who are you to go to your local politician and ask them to come into my own home and remove anything you find unacceptable because you find it yucky?

There is no meeting in the middle to someone whom champions moral superiority as a legislative process.