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North Korea announces plan to launch long-range rocket mounted with satellite.

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posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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PYONGYANG, North Korea – North Korea announced plans Friday to blast a satellite into space on the back of a long-range rocket, a provocative move that could jeopardize a weeks-old agreement with the U.S. exchanging food aid for nuclear concessions.

The launch is to take place three years after a similar launch in April 2009 drew widespread censure.
In Washington, the U.S. State Department called the announcement of the launch "highly provocative."

"Such a missile launch would pose a threat to regional security and would also be inconsistent with North Korea's recent undertaking to refrain from long-range missile launches," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a statement, calling on Pyongyang to abide by its international oblications.


www.foxnews.com...


I remember a few years ago the worlds attention was focused on North Korea launching a missile into, over, the Sea of Japan which ultimately failed.. but US threatened to shoot it down if it launched.

Very interested to see what will play this time. Basically Korea can do as it pleases, but if Iran gets a nuke or launches Long Range Missiles, it's game over.




posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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If they can put a satellite into space then they can put a nuclear payload into space as well. They don't even have to have targeting software. A nuclear device detonated over the CONUS, depending on the yield and height of detonation, could send the country back into the 1800's with an EMP.

Considering the North Korean's close relationship with Iran, I would seriously consider taking out that rocket while it is still on the launch pad.
edit on 3/16/2012 by OldCorp because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Here is predicting that it will have an "accident" before it achieves orbit.
One of our non existent orbital particle beam platforms will see to that.
Or one of our ground based atmospheric disruptors.

The news will report it as a failed launch of course..





posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by OldCorp
. A nuclear device detonated over the CONUS, depending on the yield and height of detonation, could send the country back into the 1800's with an EMP.


US has tested Nukes in their own "space"...



(there is another video with multiple tests, but I couldn't find it)



posted on Mar, 16 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN

Originally posted by OldCorp
. A nuclear device detonated over the CONUS, depending on the yield and height of detonation, could send the country back into the 1800's with an EMP.


US has tested Nukes in their own "space"...



(there is another video with multiple tests, but I couldn't find it)


"And damaged electrical circuits from Hawaii to New Zealand" which means it was detonated in the mid-Pacific. Had it been detonated over the Continental United States (CONUS) it would have shut down the electric grid. A 15 Megaton bomb detonated at 150 miles would have everyone using candles for light and burning wood to stay warm overnight.

About a week later, the riots would start when the store shelves are bare. A couple of weeks after that? Zombie Apocalypse when the cannibalism begins.

Yeah, I'd say this is a threat to our national security.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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Japan readied its missile defence systems to shoot down a North Korean rocket on Friday, as the UN chief warned that next month's launch could jeopardise food aid.


www.telegraph.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by OldCorp
If they can put a satellite into space then they can put a nuclear payload into space as well. They don't even have to have targeting software. A nuclear device detonated over the CONUS, depending on the yield and height of detonation, could send the country back into the 1800's with an EMP.

Considering the North Korean's close relationship with Iran, I would seriously consider taking out that rocket while it is still on the launch pad.
edit on 3/16/2012 by OldCorp because: (no reason given)


I have actually thought a lot about that very scenario. Many of the countries that we consider "enemies" despise the Internet and what it represents -- it provides a means for their people to see past the propaganda, gather groups of protesters via social media, and generally attain information their government's don't want them to have.

The acquisition of a nuclear weapon may not be desired for a mass killing, but rather to end the technological inequities and global communication network. Detonating a nuclear weapon may produce enough of an EMP shock to send an entire continent back to the stone age and would leave those nations at a huge disadvantage strategically.

Realistically, if we were to lose electricity and technology in the US, it would usher in a very chaotic, civil-war like atmosphere. There would not be enough time to secure the majority of equipment prior to the EMP striking.

As a simple example, nearly every truck in our country used to transport more than 80% of our goods require a computer chip to operate. An EMP would render these trucks useless and it would take several months, if not years, to get any kind of national trucking system back in operation. On average, without trucking, our food stores would be empty within only a few days.

Of course, a nuclear winter could occur which would eventually affect most of the globe. But this risk may be considered worthwhile to cripple the modern "western" world. It would be a gamble for sure.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
Of course, a nuclear winter could occur which would eventually affect most of the globe. But this risk may be considered worthwhile to cripple the modern "western" world. It would be a gamble for sure.


This is why it's beynd dangerous to even hold such power in something that can be sent flying around the world and back. IMO, it will only take one on a high populated area to trigger all out, world-ending, war.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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EMP was what I first thought of when they (N. Korea) announced this.

I'd like to think it is nothing but doom and more doom ala Nirubu. But this has a legitamate sense to it.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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The EMP might actually not trigger a nuclear war. One, nobody from the affected area would be able to communicate with one another, so nobody would know exactly what happened. Meaning, the cries for retaliation, like we saw after 9/11 wouldn't occur except on a local level. The actual bomb would be targeting the atmosphere, not land, so I would guess a wait and see approach would be the first option upon launch. It would be obvious from the trajectory that it wasn't an imminent land strike -- if it was, it would cause the targeted nation to immediately launch a counter nuclear bomb.

Don't get me wrong, the possibility for all out nuclear war would be on the table. But would a nation return fire for a bomb that didn't kill millions of people at the time of detonation? Not sure. Would a retaliatory bomb then be detonated in the atmosphere over the nation that fired first? Possibly, but that nation would time to secure their technology ahead of launching the first bomb.

As far as the current launch from NK, I doubt they would announce the launch of a weapon poised to destruct a nation ahead of time. But who knows? They now have a new, very young, leader in need of solidifying trust among his military and NK citizens.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Just an addendum, Faraday Cages.

Get 'em!

It may be the paranoid loons who always talk of conspiracies who survive best!




posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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UPDATE:

US warns of 'strong response' if North Korea launches rocket




SEOUL: North Korea will face a "strong response" if it launches a long-range rocket next month despite international calls to desist, a special adviser to US President Barack Obama said on Friday.


timesofindia.indiatimes.com...

Strong Response means, harsh sanctions.. lol.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:47 AM
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I know some of them are messed up and all, but have to laugh at the strangeness of the US Gov issuing warnings about someone sending a satellite into space.

And the people defending it will say their government is mad, etc, but so is the US government, and so are most others. If you look at each country that has nukes we really have no idea as to the depths of their insanity, but if the US, UK, China, Russia, etc, give them stick what can they issue as a response? They're also causing problems all over the place and have way more capability to make things even worse.

It's almost as if 90% of the media stories nowadays are just a convenient sideshow that for some reason most of the population seem to think is the most important. Yeah, it is a problem that they might have the chances to have nukes, same as Iran, but the countries that already have nukes are also messed up. But people sometimes lose sight of that.

And to be honest : the US government think they rule the world and are pushing well above their weight, just like the UK did in the past. It's over the top and they need to chill out and accept their place in things. Most governments suck, as do they, but would rather have all governments realise they suck together and do something about it than have a competition about who's best. The fact is that none of them are best and they should work together to help solve the problems we all have.
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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:24 AM
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South Korea claims North Korea has moved rocket to launch site




SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea has moved a long-range rocket to its northwestern launch site in preparation for a launch next month, South Korean officials said Sunday, as Pyongyang pushes ahead with plans that Washington says are a cover for testing long-range missile systems. Read more: www.foxnews.com...


www.foxnews.com...



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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Good for them, none of our business.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:26 AM
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That's very nice of North Korea to let everyone know they are going to test a missile.

I'm pretty sure when America tested the nuclear bomb, they didn't inform anyone else.
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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:29 AM
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Here comes that EMP...be sure to put all your electronics you want to keep in a metal trash can
With a lid or an old microwave oven



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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Update on this situation -

"North Korea insisted Tuesday it would go ahead with its satellite launch, snubbing a call from US President Barack Obama to drop the plan and accusing him of a "confrontational mindset".

"We will never give up the right to launch a peaceful satellite, a legitimate right of a sovereign state and an essential step for economic development," a foreign ministry spokesman told the official KCNA news agency\'

And North Korea even

"It said it had invited foreign experts including those from the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), along with overseas reporters, to witness "a scientific space technology project that has nothing to do with any military purpose"

Sounds like Iran but with a launch instead of nukes!


www.spacedaily.com...



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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UPDATE






(CNN) -- North Korea said Tuesday that it would not abandon its plan to carry out a satellite launch next month despite recent warnings from President Barack Obama over the move.

The North "will not give up the satellite launch for peaceful purposes, which is a legitimate right of a sovereign state and requirement essential for economic development," Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency reported, citing the country's foreign ministry.


edition.cnn.com...
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posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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North Korea has reportedly begun fuelling a rocket for a launch next month, defying calls to abort an event the West says is a disguised missile test, as the United States suspended planned food aid.


news.yahoo.com...



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