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6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes*1, and a tree to be desired*2 to make one wise*3, she took*4 of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
I think you will find that this is certainly no ordinary tree, for it wasn't a tree at all, it was satan. *1 pleasant to the eyes = Hebrew word #2530; chamad: To desire, to covet, to take pleasure in, to delight in, to be desirable, to delight greatly, to desire greatly, desirableness, preciousness.*2 desired = Hebrew word # 8378 ta'avah (tah-av-aw'); from 183 (abbreviated); to yearn for, to lust after (used of bodily appetites) a longing; by implication, a delight (subjectively, satisfaction, objectively, a charm): a desire, a wish, longings of one's heart; lust, an appetite, covetousness (in a bad sense), to covet, to wait longingly. *
3 make one wise = Apple trees don't make you smart. But satan can fill your mind with evil 'wisdom' and evil thoughts! *4 took = Hebrew word # 3947 laqach (law-kakh'); a primitive root; to take (in the widest variety of applications): to take, to lay hold of, to receive, to marry, to take a wife, to take to or for a person, to procure, to get, to take possession of, to select, to choose, to take in marriage, to receive, to accept.
And apparently according to the fellow alot of the bible was mistranslated very badly from the hebrew scripture?
there are 2 lineages in Genesis, and Cain is not in Adams lineage.
Originally posted by TheXoor
No, it can't possibly be true.
This is just too farfetched, sorry. If there is a son of Satain its not him.
Originally posted by manna2
there are 2 lineages in Genesis, and Cain is not in Adams lineage. 1 from cain and 1 from Adam. Samael or satan seduced Eve in an attempt to spoil God's plan for Man. Eve gave birth to 2 sets of twins.
Able and his twin sister from Adam and Cain and his twin sister, lucifer (lucy) from satan.
I'll get references when I get time.
25 And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and named him Seth, “For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed.Genesis 4:25
Originally posted by vaelamin
reply to post by NOTurTypical
well this fellow in the link says they were fraternal and born from 2 different seeds.
Also why is cain not mentioned in adams geneology?
25 And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and named him Seth, “For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed.Genesis 4:25
Why doesn't he consider cain his seed aswell? why just abel? mistranslation maybe?
Originally posted by vaelamin
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Confusing.
Originally posted by vaelamin
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Ok that much i can understand but what about the serpent? I cant seem to understand why God punished the serpent for something satan did. I mean what choice did that thing have? Man was given dominion over animals so i would assume satan would also have dominion over them right?