Yusuf Islam... aka...Cat Stevens flight diverted, page 1

Yusuf Islam... aka...Cat Stevens flight diverted, page 1

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Topic started on 21-9-2004 @ 09:14 PM by Mirthful Me

A London to Washington D.C. flight was diverted to Bangor, Maine after it was discovered that Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) was onboard. After converting to the Muslim faith in 1978, Yusuf has become an outspoken critic of Western society.

This is ridiculous. I m no fan of his views on a variety of issues, but to believe he was a risk to security is over the top. Just meet him at the gate in Washington and stick him on the next flight back to London (if for some reason he is not welcome here), but don't make an international incident of it.

www.foxnews.com...

catstevens.com...

www.fact-index.com...

[edit on 21/9/2004 by Mirthful Me]

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 09:17 PM by SMR

I was just trying toget info on this as I just saw it on CNN.
Thanks for the links!
Big fan of 'CAT' myself.

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 09:31 PM by Mirthful Me

Originally posted by SMR
I was just trying toget info on this as I just saw it on CNN.
Thanks for the links!
Big fan of 'CAT' myself.

Probably a generation (and half?) or so out from the average ATs'er, but I remember the haunting, Van Morrison like songs...

AP Story.

Old School Monkeys, not just for vinyl (or 8-Track) anymore�

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 11:16 PM by Netchicken

Can't get it in
Oh I can't get it in, I can't get it in, I've just got kicked out.
I've got to show the world, world's got to see, homeland security and what its done to me. I said, why walk alone, why worry when I'm
warned over here. You've got so much to say, just don't say what you mean, or mean what you're thinking, as you'l get the boot .. oh why?

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 11:21 PM by Netchicken

Another Saturday night and I ain't got no country
I've got some money 'cause I just got paid
Now, how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way

I got in town a month ago
I seen a lot of feds since then
If I could meet 'em I could beat 'em
But as yet I haven't met 'em
That's how I'm in the state I'm in

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 11:31 PM by taibunsuu

In the War on Terrorism, freedom-hater Yusuf Islam has been detained in Maine while trying to infiltrate the country on a British - UK flight.

Meanwhile, upwards of 4,000 completely unidentified people pour into the US daily across the the Mexican border.

Back to you, Skip.

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 11:34 PM by Rokgodes

Could it be that they didn't realize it was "Cat Stevens"??

It has been a very long time you know, lol.

Rokgodes

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 11:35 PM by SkipShipman

You don't know how thrilled I was about due process, when Nixon wanted to kick out John Lennon, and failed.

Nowadays, due process has taken a back seat. This looks like a clear case of religious bigotry, or maybe just discretionary enforcement of wide ranging powers gone wild. How about Senator Kennedy having to call up how many people over a month to get off this unconstitutional "no fly list?" Americans have an absolute right to travel period. For Cat Stevens, that may be another story, but it does look silly. Perhaps he should go to Mexico first and visit here as OTM?

reply posted on 21-9-2004 @ 11:37 PM by Off_The_Street

Instead of the aircraft, he should have probably taken the Peace Train.

Oh, well. Morning has Broken, and he's probably still in the lockup.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 12:35 AM by FredT

Ah Wild World, dating me now eh?

But If he is on a bared list, how did he get on the plane? Why divert to Maine? Put an escort around it and let it land at Dulles.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 12:38 AM by taibunsuu

Man if I was on a flight diverted and time wasted because Cat Stevens is now considered a terrorist threat, I'd be so pissed I'd probably become a terrorist myself. I fly coach and I'm 6'3", being in those planes is worse than taking a public bus.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 12:42 AM by intrepid

You know it is probably something so petty as, "Well you left us to be with those evil Muslims, so this is what you get." Like he's a threat to anybody.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 01:20 AM by SMR

The ONLY thing he upset me about was the fact that he said he did not like what he did in the past musically.
I cant understand any musicians that say that.He put out great music IMO
He does allow his children to hear his 'older' music though which is a cool thing.
I bet they were just 'fkn' with him because he is now a muslim

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 01:26 AM by taibunsuu

Originally posted by SMR

I cant understand any musicians that say that.

What happens with a lot of artists is when they are starting out they make music that becomes very popular. Then they mature and change in their own ways and view their earlier efforts as sophomoric, and resent the fact that they're best known for stuff they don't like themselves.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 01:39 AM by SMR

Kinda like when Vivian Campbell left DIO.
He said what he did in that band was crap

Now look at him,backup-backup for Def Leppard

(dont get me wrong,big Def Lep fan as well)
I wonder if he will come out with an anti american statement that will get him into deep doo-doo.He'll have to join the likes of Johnny Depp as celebs that wont live in america unless they want to deal with all the wrong comments they make.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 05:06 AM by jayjay2910

Now the US are getting stupid, this guy is not a terriost, and does not pose any threat to the national secuirty of the US . So what if he is a muslim. He's a singer who decided that he wanted to convert to islam,

Yet again who ever makes these list up is having a field day, any person with a arabic name is a threat. Like a terriost is going to put his real name down on a flight list.

It's a case of bolting the barn door after the horse has done a runner and the barn has been burnt to the ground. typical US polices really, to little to late

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 05:22 AM by xpert11

While they prevent Yusuf Islam from entering the USA a real terrorist has sliped into the countrie and is laughing at this idiocy.

What asham he stoped singing before I was born.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 05:22 AM by shoo

He is on the terrorist suspect list because of the rumour that he agreed with Ayatollah Khomeini's conviction to murder Salman Rushdie.

Though...at that time he distanced himself from this conviction and told the media he never said he agrees with it.
He wasn't heared

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 05:56 AM by Leveller

Hmmm. He might have denied it, but if you go to his official website at catstevens.com..., you will find this -

"He embraced his new religion with a zeal common in converts, and signed on to many of its political trappings. In the 1980s, he supported the death sentence issued against author Salman Rushdie; during the Persian Gulf war he spoke sympathetically of his ?Muslim brother,? Iraqi President Saddam Hussein."

So if he didn't agree with the Fatwa, why does it state the contrary on his website?
It should also be noted that Cat Stevens may not be quite as innocent as he claims. In 1988 he was deported from Israel for allegedly giving tens of thousands of dollars to the terrorist organisation Hamas and then caught trying to re-enter the country (whilst already banned) on another occasion in 2000.

www.rollingstone.com...

Incidentally, the music of Cat Stevens is now officially endorsed by the Iranian government. Ironically the first Western band that the regime accepted and promoted was Queen. Cat Stevens also happens to be quite the little homophobe - it's quite ironic that he and Freddie Mercury should be linked together in this way.

reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 06:43 AM by AceOfBase

The FAQ on his site says he does not donate money to terrorist orginizations:

Q: HAS YUSUF/CAT STEVENS EVER GIVEN MONEY TO CHARITIES THAT SUPPORT TERRORISM, AND/OR DOES HE SUPPORT TERRORISM IN ANY WAY?:
No, of course not. Yusuf is a man of peace and feels that terrorism is un-islamic. He has never given any money or support to any terrorist organization. The same goes for charities that front terrorist groups. In fact Yusuf devotes most of his resources to his own charities. One, "Small Kindness" gives the money directly to the families in need (there are no middle-men involved).

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