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posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by squandered

Originally posted by atsmem1980

Originally posted by squandered
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Indians gotta excuse their excessive racism as a means to ignore their own responsibility in creating the country they have. Blame something, move on. Corruption stays the same but the people are just that bit more nationalistic and easy to brainwash.


correction : "in creating the country they have" is actually in creating a country of what was left after the Brits quit.

a bit more nationalistic..that's a bad thing?..1.2 billion people, 28 states , 7 unions, multi religion , mulit caste

i suppose australia can compete with us becos they have the same situation like us?

easy 2 brainwash..?

u seem to have an issue with indians and u like 2 take cheaps digs at us..try really hard to respond with more material pal..

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I think I spelled out the situation in India well. To take my advice is a step forward. Indians are so misguided about what they are. They should learn that you can't brag / boast your feelings of inadequacy away. Just deal with the inadequacy or shut up.

If you think these are cheap digs, that's your assessment of the state of affairs in India as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe when you are half of what you say you are you will feel vindicated and allow yourself to be India and not some strained, thinly veiled vision of self hate. I look forward to that date.

Surely, India has a lot to offer.


"I think I spelled out the situation in India well."... no u haven't

"To take my advice is a step forward".. no thanks we can think for ourselves

"Indians are so misguided about what they are. They should learn that you can't brag / boast your feelings of inadequacy away. Just deal with the inadequacy or shut up. "...that is your narrow minded view and I'm Indian and I know better about Indians

"If you think these are cheap digs, that's your assessment of the state of affairs in India as far as I'm concerned."
...it's an assessment of u

"Maybe when you are half of what you say you are you will feel vindicated and allow yourself to be India and not some strained, thinly veiled vision of self hate. I look forward to that date. "

..u say v r easily brainwashed and u can't even back it up..u r the one with all the hate..grow up and accept the fact that v can challenge ur views and don't take kindly to stupid racist views

"Surely, India has a lot to offer."..but people like urself will never acknowledge us and what v have to offer and v don't need acknowledgement from people like u
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posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by victor7
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If you think these are cheap digs, that's your assessment of the state of affairs in India as far as I'm concerned.


Indians are shameless, they do not like critism even if it is justified and points to items that can be easily corrected. No wonder a country 1/3rd their size is poking them in the eye for last 50 years.


i bet u know all indians or u probably don't like us challenging your views..get used to it!



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by atsmem1980

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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india is an artificial entity .Its already destabilizing due to its stupid mining policies in tribal areas which has created conditions for a massive civil war in the future.

as for corruption,its a newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues .Corruption is everywhere in the world.
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"india is an artificial entity" ..what's ur source ?

"..destabilizing due to its stupid mining policies in tribal areas which has created conditions for a massive civil war in the future?".. source again?

"..newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues?".. which are?

u hav 2 try harder pal
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I guess you are young and hot headed.

India was an artifical entity created by the british.

And as for tribal areas and mining ,does naxalites ring a bell? naxalite yellow zone is around 40% of India.





"..newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues?".. which are?


Do you know that Nehru family was freemasonic. Check the Kolkata masonic lodge.Motilal Nehru was its member.cultural destruction ,moral value destruction .Times of India sounds like a CIA neo-con outlet.The shadow economy of the FII's? I
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posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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This I agree on.Indians are very thin skinned to criticism.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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..u say v r easily brainwashed and u can't even back it up..u r the one with all the hate..grow up and accept the fact that v can challenge ur views and don't take kindly to stupid racist views

Hahaha

I knew it wouldn't take long for an Indian to play the race card. Too damn predictable.

You really must stop deflecting. You are too good at it and it's a bad thing, for you.

The rest of us can sit back and laugh, while you struggle with pretending otherwise.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003

Originally posted by atsmem1980

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by squandered
 


india is an artificial entity .Its already destabilizing due to its stupid mining policies in tribal areas which has created conditions for a massive civil war in the future.

as for corruption,its a newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues .Corruption is everywhere in the world.
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"india is an artificial entity" ..what's ur source ?

"..destabilizing due to its stupid mining policies in tribal areas which has created conditions for a massive civil war in the future?".. source again?

"..newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues?".. which are?

u hav 2 try harder pal
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I guess you are young and hot headed.

India was an artifical entity created by the british.

And as for tribal areas and mining ,does naxalites ring a bell? naxalite yellow zone is around 40% of India.





"..newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues?".. which are?


Do you know that Nehru family was freemasonic. Check the Kolkata masonic lodge.Motilal Nehru was its member.cultural destruction ,moral value destruction .Times of India sounds like a CIA neo-con outlet.The shadow economy of the FII's? I
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grand imagination doesn't back up claims



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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i'm flattered that u used my 'racist card' cos u can't give a good reply

and u can continue to remain racist 4 all i care
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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 01:29 AM
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this is not a grand imagination.Such levels of denial are never good.




Why have the Naxalites come to loom so large as a security challenge? First, a large area of the country has fallen under varying degrees of CPI(M) influence. According to one estimate, approximately 40% of India's territory is under some form of Maoist influence





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www.geopoliticalmonitor.com...
rupeenews.com...

your mining laws are creating a civil war and the naxal revolt is increasingly becoming popular thanks to your govt policy of forcibly snatching the tribal lands and giving them to vedanta and other thug mining companies and killing tribals using political goons and police.

Enjoy your civil war.

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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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govt policy of forcibly snatching the tribal lands and giving them to vedanta and other thug mining companies and killing tribals using political goons and police


Sounds like the sort of thing India invents to use against the countries it is most closely reliant upon.
1. Project your own faults onto others as if that makes your free of the unavoidable consequences.
2. Demand people view you as the opposite to what is plainly obvious.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by atsmem1980
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i'm glad u don't disagree with what i said about colonialists.

i don't think that the indian gov is solely responsible for making everything superb in my country, a good amount of the mess is BY THE BRITS and please stop pointing at my nation's gov for not doin enuf .. i give them credit for atleast trying ..

after all they (the BRITS) didn't call india as the jewel in the crown for nothing!

u enjoy reality.. i'd enjoy changing it..
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Dude colonialism existed not just in India but several other countries. So what about it now? Would you rather live in the past or look to the future? Even US was under the British Rule and several other nations.

There is nothing in it for me. If you wish to live in denial, then its your choice. Ofcourse the Indian government has made a significant progress. However the country was a mess when the Brits tookover India. Would you rather have more than 28 states in India? If you think the Brits or Moghuls hadn't invaded india, would you think the country would have been better off with all few hundred Kingdoms? Lets say about few hundred? Ofcourse your nationalistic pride and patriotism is justified and good but it sounds like the unification of India was Bad? How? Care to explain?

Why did they used the term 'crown jewel' ? Care to enlighten?
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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by squandered
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Indians gotta excuse their excessive racism as a means to ignore their own responsibility in creating the country they have. Blame something, move on. Corruption stays the same but the people are just that bit more nationalistic and easy to brainwash.

You hit that one on the head.

That is exactly what I meant earlier that one has to look at themselves before pointing fingers. Simple rule but it goes a long way.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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I think he is a young gun


Eventually it will sink in once he reaches a certain point in life



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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1.8 Billion Indians? No way. I think the numbers are cumulative for other countries included under the British Empire.

No way the population was that high. In 60 years without any rule, the population has reached 1.2 billion. Do you mean to imply that it was over 2 billion before the British entered India? No way.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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total death toll of India under british for 200 years. You really haven't read you should data on the mega famines in india. Also millions of people use to die due to british policies of starvation and execution of those who DISPLEASED THE BRITISH.Plus there are several mass graves in madhya pradesh,UP,West bengal,.punjab etc.

Check the population stats itself and this was one of my previous posts:




British empire is the biggest mass murderer of History and you haven't debunked it.

Firstly,I do not believe british stats on india as they are corrupted.secondly the data is showing huge deviations which could be symbols of mass genocide by the British of hundreds of millions altogether at once by means of starvation or mass executions.

Secondly a lot of indians have told me stories of how murderous and racist the british people were and they don't believe british stats as they consistently changed to lie about the mass murders there are several mass graves in UP,Madhya Pradesh which have been attributed to the murderous british by indian locals...

292366,0 1860 then
135634,2 1861

155 million killed? 1857 there was a massive revolt and it does indicate A MAJOR THING (again the figures alter ,indicates data quality is poor or the british were the hiding the scale of their monstrous mass murders

300963,0 1875 then all of a sudden
201888,1 1881

100 million killed?


288730,0 1885
282801,0 1890
276994,0 1895



and then after 1900 population kept falling till 1920 despite high fertility and birth rates(starvation,mass execution,genocide?).After independence india's population exploded.

The data quality is terrible as figures are not consistent for some years and show mass alterations.But it proves one thing.British are trying to hide true data with constantly altering figures. I guess it proves my point .British waged mass genocide in india and the 1.8 billion murdered by the British empire still stands.

and this is from your own source.
www.populstat.info...
Secondly ,refer to Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History or Amartya Sen's works on indian history(nobel prize winner)



Pakistan and bangladesh had a combined population of 35-50 million before independence of India so you can subtract that. There was a massive famine in India in 1860 which was said to deliberately caused by british in response for the 1857 mass revolt in India(10-20 million indians murdered in 1857). and then all of a sudden.

292366,0 1860 then
135634,2 1861

155 million killed? 1857 there was a massive revolt and it does indicate A MAJOR THING (again the figures alter ,indicates data quality is poor or the british were the hiding the scale of their monstrous mass murders

Man,I feel happy that OUR FOUNDING FATHERS revolted and kicked the british out.or America would be having famines like Irish potato famines or mega famines or mega genocides like how british waged in india.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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india generated 30% of the world GDP and had the one of the gold,silver and gems stockpile which british plundered away with.You really need to read an history book on India.At that time Marathas,Sikhs ,Nizam of hyderabad and mysore ,afghans were jockeying for supremacy.British set up one against another and destroyed them and to subjugate local population would deliberately exterminate entire villages and cities to show how merciless they were.

Indians as usual use to sell each other.Anyways Obama and Bush are trying/tried to create similiar conditions in USA.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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Man, stop with this garbage.
You are making it up!
Think for once!



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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This is no joke and neither I am making up garbage.I criticised atsmem for his denial.step out of the high tower and read indian history from indian historians. Also from the western author mike davis you could read the late victorian holocausts in which he attributes 100-200 million deaths in india due to british policy of snatching crops and forcing farmers to cultivate cash crops while paying a pittance.Also farmers who refused to obey were shot and their families were killed so that it be an example for the village if villagers dared to disobey the british.
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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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The data quality is terrible as figures are not consistent for some years and show mass alterations.

As the article indicates, the data definitely seems to be either exaggerated/altered. I agree that might have been massive deaths but definitely not close to the number indicated. Do you think the population of India was close to 3 billion 200 years ago? Common now.

Even with modern construction technology, the country is struggling to house every single individual in India (1.2 billion). Imagine 3 billion people with less housing some 200 years ago. I think the numbers are way out of proportion. There is definitely some error in the reporting and/or documenting. It could be a matter of adding an extra '0' zero at the end by some crazy drunk historian on a bad day who prolly is long since dead leaving the rest of the world puzzled.

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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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This is no joke and neither I am making up garbage.I criticised atsmem for his denial.step out of the high tower and read indian history from indian historians. Also from the western author mike davis you could read the late victorian holocausts in which he attributes 100-200 million deaths in india due to british policy of snatching crops and forcing farmers to cultivate cash crops while paying a pittance.Also farmers who refused to obey were shot and their families were killed so that it be an example for the village if villagers dared to disobey the british.
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The best example you have, is my example of why you are making it up. See above.
You are not keeping your facts to things you actually know.

I know a lot about Indian history, having an interest in ancient spiritual beliefs. It is not like that. Indians and people from that area have a great culture but none of them are shaming India by postulating false facts as criticism, as you do.

You came to this thread to brag and defend your country.. online.. from Americans.
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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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He is blaming Britain for every death in India for the past 200 years. I guess that makes the UK, India's natural god.
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