Irish journalist leave Bankers speechless!

reply to post by xstealth

We Irish don't like losing.

Then again we already have.

At least a couple of us have held on to our golden parachutes.

Look at that troll on the left, and I don't mean physically you can just tell by the energy she gives off. The world is being run by incredibly sick people.

reply to post by crankyoldman


I agree with you. I think their body language was evidence that there is some BS to be smelled here.
And I mean, if it was as simple as some of the people on this thread claim it to be, why didn`t he simply say `Well you morons joined the EU, what did you think would happen?'

He did a classic deflection of the main question, and even if the answer is the fact they joined the EU and are now bonded to it, then why didn't he say so, why didn't he expose this journalist for asking what I would assume would be a 'silly question', instead he sat there and went in circles repeating words like consequence and benefits, not really getting to the reason...

From what I gather, he basically asked the man to explain it in layman terms, lay it out, flat and simple, no jargon, just put it all down on the people for a simpleton to understand... But he wouldn't- does anyone believe the dribble he spewed was anywhere close to a straight forward answer in plain english....
I'm sorry I understand they are obligated to honor the system in which they joined, but if it is the rulers of the same system that can't tell them the brutal truth- then maybe the Irish people shouldn't give them the same honesty.

Originally posted by adventxero
reply to post by CosmicEgg

 

That is the worst idea I have ever heard. I am a financial coach as well as an avid ATS member. I completely agree with your argument regarding creditors. That is a broken system. American greed, impatience, and our need for instant gratification has led the credit institution to be what it is today. As far as removal of ALL banking activities?! Not smart and very bad advice! It seems you don't understand how the money and finance works. Which is really no fault of yours, because 99% of all people in America are taught absolutely nothing about money or finance.

And before you try to chastise me about how I am the one who is wrong. I have a Series 6, 63, 26, and 65 investment licenses and I have been in the financial sector for some time now so I know a thing or two. Also, my job is to help families get out of debt and retire early, so my motives are noble ones.

Also, if you take time to understand basic economics and inflationary trends, you would know that putting your money in your sock, mattress, or coffee can is a sure-fire way to wind up broke in 30yrs or so. As inflation rises, the buying power of the dollar weakens. Inflation average out to 4.75% in 2011 and has had a 50yr average of 4% which simply means that we have to work harder every year and our money buys less.

I my self only use my bank as a checking account, NOT an investment vehicle. I advise my clients to treat banks as such. Banks were designed to make sure you have liquid access to your money, NOT for wealth management.

In addition, it seems that the Irish government is in bed with the European banks. The Irish people are probably paying billions into non-guaranteed bonds because a few political entities saw a way to get rich through that deal.


Not trying to put you down, you have the right to be angry. We all do. Please make sure you are educated on something before offering any advise.
I have three philosophies when it comes to money:
1) Dont spend more than you make
2) Dont take financial advise from broke people (they are broke for a reason)
3) If your money pile is bigger than my money pile... then I'll take your financial advise.

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but your the last person anyone would listen to after being trained by these people. Obviously you would argue against keeping money at hand or you would be out of a job! I've always trusted myself not to rip me off when I hold My money.

What is the advantage of letting someone else OWN my money, however briefly, to collect interest and investments returns for themselves? I think we should cut out the middle men in everything we possibly can and drive all prices down. Granted, a lot of people would actually have to go out and toil like the rest of us to put food on the table. Supply and demand is much different in the real world than what we learn in school. In reality, the available supply of money is demanded by the greedy!

Anyone watching Vincent Brownes programme a few weeks ago, where he speculated that a clause was stealthily put into the European Stability Fund saying that you had to ratify the Fiscal Treaty to borrow from it? Basically he was saying in the event of them being unable to water the treaty down enough to avoid a referendum, this was inserted to bully the electorate into passing it

More proof of the Globalist chokehold that the International Banksters have on most of the Nations of Planet Earth. I have Irish blood, my Father was Irish. I am American though, and they used us to bail out the international banks as well. They have completely bankrupted The United States of America. If that's not bad enough, our Bankster puppet yes men and women in Congress are raping the socialist stimulus packages as well.

It's true. They are buying states, politicians, legistlators and delegates, as well as re-funnelling some of those funds back to themselves. It's so corrupt here in America under Obama. Not that it was not prior to this madman. Only it's at the highest level now than it has ever been in U.S history. Both Parties are owned by the banksters and others.

Look, These bottomfeeders know their time is running out.They don't even trust our own troops being armed when our clown Secretary of Defense Panetta gives a speech to them. This is the first time that ever has happened in U.S history. What are you gonna do though? They will never be defeated without the Military turning on them and joining forces with the citizens. Without that, you can forget about putting up anykind of a resistance. ~SheopleNation

I say to the Irish, don't feed the beast! Start a movement and drop totally out of the system, as well we all should. Just ignore the governments and stand back to back. Don't pay taxes, don't obey silly laws and rely on the strength of numbers. We are all brothers (and sisters) who if united in a common cause, could make change happen! Hell, this is not the inheritance I wish to leave my children and grandchildren.

TPTB can not throw everyone in prison! I say, revolt people of earth. do not be the silent majority any longer! Let us show them we are not as complacent and simple minded as they envision us to be. We have always had the power to affect change for the better. All that need be done is to unite and make a move!

OK. I'm done with the "Braveheart" speech, just had to get some built up tension out!

reply to post by ajay59


Most people are fairly passive at the moment, although the Household charge the government bought in the recent budget has aroused some anger, with a sizeable amount vowing not to pay it. If the goverment also can't get some sort of deal on the dead Anglo-Irish bank promissary notes (3.1 billion due at the end of the month), even getting the payments delayed, it could lead to some anger. Especially seen as the perception is that we're co-operating with the EU to bailout mainly French/German banks, the IMF supports a deal on Anglo, and Spain and particularly Greece get deals while all as happens Ireland is the ECB/EU seem to be against us and hampering us at every turn

reply to post by ajay59


I understand your anger and passion my friend, but they don't need to throw everyone into jail or camps. All they need to do is blockade any state, City or area where resistance exists. No shipping or trucking into those areas means only one thing, starvation, disease ect. Like I said before, Without the Military there is no chance of defeating these international bottomfeeders. They control everything. ~SheopleNation

Originally posted by SheopleNation
reply to post by ajay59

 

I understand your anger and passion my friend, but they don't need to throw everyone into jail or camps. All they need to do is blockade any state, City or area where resistance exists. No shipping or trucking into those areas means only one thing, starvation, disease ect. Like I said before, Without the Military there is no chance of defeating these international bottomfeeders. They control everything. ~SheopleNation

The people should still resist however futile it my be. If they were to imprison or kill us all off, their existence would be a moot point, yes? With noone to rule, what good is a ruling class?

reply to post by ajay59


I agree with your position, and I understand. It's just that I believe that the majority of sheople will never put their livelihoods or their families in jeopardy in order to win back their Liberty. Which, is long gone now. You see, we have become a weak people. Yes, we are weak. We are nothing like the men before us that sacrificed everything, including their families, their bank accounts and their property. Let alone their lives.

That doesn't make you anymore wrong or me anymore right. It just is what it is, atleast for now. Don't misunderstand though, I feel yuh my friend. ~SheopleNation

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
That was a little thing we call Hot Air followed up by Denial. Not pwnage on any level.

However, all of this could have been averted if people kept their money in *community banks* rather than large national or multinational banks. Keep your money in your socks, in your mattress, in your floorboards - not in banks! If they have it, you don't. Keep that in mind in the future.

Start movements for receiving your pay in cash. Pay your bills in cash. Remove banks from the system. They crept into this position when they realized that it was convenient for us, but bankers are by nature greedy and we have fed that trait in them until we created a horrifying monster. The credit institutions grew out of the awareness of our weakness. *We* must take responsibility and bring these monsters down with our own actions now. Get rid of your bank accounts and get rid of your credit.

Our society must change now. We must be that change.

It is naive to believe that you can simply hide cold, hard, cash in your home or on your person and it keeps it value. In a society where money disappears from banks instantaneously and people lose on a digital screen, all out anarchy ensues.

Money loses its value. When the banks collapse and people with millions in there cannot withdraw it. they still remain millionaires with nothing. A peon with 500$ in his socks and mattress doesn't suddenly become a warlord or kingpin.

Think before you start risking yourself for home invasion and robbery, friend.

Proud to be irish.


Hell yea.

reply to post by NikolaiMacIntosh


Why is it that every single time someone posts against the banksters that the only posters in defense of folks keeping their funds inside these shady internationalist institutions rarely have no more than 20 posts here at ATS?

I think you have less than 10 eh? LMAO!!! ~SheopleNation

I saw this a few weeks ago and it enraged me then and I can feel my blood boiling again!!!



How DARE he NOT answer that question???? Put me in a room alone with him for 5 mins and I'll get the damn answer!! Makes me want to VOMIT ... all over Klaus Masuch and that traitorous sow Barbara Nolan!!!

My child, like countless others in this country, is desperately in need of an SNA in school, and because the likes of ANGLO effing bondholders I cannot see her being able to complete her education. I have offered to be her SNA since I am also her carer but even that is not possible, not to mention the effect that would have on her self esteem, what 16 year old wants their mother tagging along to school, I'd do it regardless if I could. Neither can I leave her to pick up my placard and protest, so what else can I do??? I don't use banks unless I absolutely have to, I have no debt for those (w)bankers to get interest on, any money I manage to scrimp by is in the credit union, I have started growing my own food and most importantly which a hell of a lot of Irish people DON'T do, I give my SUPPORT, and help when I can, to those who can go and protest on my behalf, instead of belittling and criticising the very people that are prepared to take a stand for me!!!

I do this too:



Even if it doesn't make a blind bit of difference, it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of satisfaction every time I write it (I do the coins too )

By the way, if you really want to know what Irish taxi drivers think of all this, take a listen:



Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for the condescending prat that is Joe Duffy!

On a side note, even Chuck Norris answers Vincent Browne. That man needs to open a school for journalists, maybe then we'd have some true journalists with integrity and the balls to ask the questions that no one else will and the courage and dedication to get the answers!!

Good thing he's not in the states or he would have a "heart attack" in a week or two Cudos for making 'em squirm though.

reply to post by xstealth


Vincent Brown has my vote...........bring him over here to ask our government VIPs some questions.

I'd love to see them sweat like that talking head in the purple tie.

He was tongue tied for a moment there.

Yep hard to argue with someone asking you a direct question and in such a way that either the lie or truth clearly shows.

Double talk, so tired of the fancy smancy "legal" double talk all these banksters dribble out.

reply to post by pshea38

BTW; When you said Germany is in power again, check HRH Queen Elizabeth's family background - She is a German Queen not a English Queen.

The British Isles have been ruled over by Germany for centuries.

good work, he got torn a new one, but it's funny to see that no one really came to support the journalist

Yah rogue Journalist. Who let that man in the room anyway? This was supposed to be a nice disinformation session. Purple smirking tie even remembers him from before. I love the way the guy keeps turning to the woman to speak up for him. Then they all look rabid around the room for someone to come to their aid. Like a power outage or something... nah, today the truth bit you in the ass bankers. Rare look. Glad to see it.

After the press conference, the thieves rode in their armored limo to their waiting jet helicopter that whisked them to their private island where they thrashed about gnashing their teeth as to how stupid they were to get caught like that with their jaws down. One day I hope to see them smirk in front of a firing squad.