Because if there is, then such a place, or domain, or whatever you want to call "it"
by it's very nature, being eternal, as it were, would it not
completely both defy our imagination, on the one hand, while at the same time somehow assuring us, that it's there
, or indeed somewhere even if
not completely in our present moment experience?
ARE we truly blessed who mourn, and satisfied, those of us who hunger and thirst for what is right?
I suspect that that's the real truth, but that it's just something maybe we haven't yet fully caught up to, yet once "had" (possessed) somewhere in
the distant past, maybe in a golden age, but there's a memory there, like an eternal place in the heart and soul which can never forget, however
deeply buried it may seem to be at this stage, like a taproot, or what Carl Jung called a rhizome, just waiting to burst forth onto the scene, again,
as if for the first time. Something or somewhere that although invisible, is nevertheless there
, which although not subject to the typical
scrutiny of the five sense, very present, very near..
By the very virtue of our own heartfelt experience of being alive (what may be called the personal qualia of human experience), isn't our "creation"
our "universe", even if only the localized one we inhabit ALREADY founded somewhere
in relation to a first/last cause, or a source, an "alpha
and omega" of existence - and if so are we not then already
lost and found again, in eternity, by the uncaused cause (1st father) who's
very purpose, it would appear, is our OWN present moment existence, as if shared out of a bountiful heart, for the sake of a varied mutual experience,
in Christian terms something called Koinonia
(communion by intimate participation).
It would certainly be quite the joke at the expense of all our collectively shared prior ignorance and utter supidity, if our very reality and present
moment experience is in TRUTH itself a reflection of a higher order, domain or realm, whatever you want to call it, upon which our existence is
ALREADY conditioned by virtue of our inclusion, not as a particular
somebody, but in that which is already indestructible, imperishable, and
which permeates the whole of the universe and the entire spectrum of all being and becoming, sandwiched as it were between two eternities, which
cannot be reduced by any division say backwards or forwards, because infinite can never be counted down to zero (present), and since infinitely is
what we are in, whether a person believes in the big bang or not, it makes no difference, this is the "predicament" we already find ourselves in, and
if we believe our own eyes, the truth which sets us free sets us FREE (eventually) only because it cannot be escaped or avoided!, that is if there is
somewhere there there (in you), if the lights are on and someone's home.
No one can deny the qualia of their own existence and state, in a way that is reasonable to the rest of us, that he and by extension we, are just an
"it", that's amuzing, and not the least bit congruent with the aspect of our humanity which makes us smile at being called nothing but an "it" a
"thing" to even begin with. We already know that's just not true.
Are the "pure in heart" blessed to see God, and the humble and selfless, exalted?
I do think so, when push comes to shove in the final analysis at the end of the day, in other words that eternal, timeless spaceless principals, RULE
the universe, and they do so with perfect fairness and therefore with perfect hamony and ease, naturally, like a flowing river of eternal life,
already available freely to all who thirst for that which is imperishable, inconchorable, yet joyful and light, playful, and curious, like a child.
Something FUN, amuzing, enjoyable, and never boring, always fresh and new (the real reality).
And so where our heart is, there our treasure is also.
Is there a heaven?
There either is or there isn't, but I cannot deny my own experience, namely that there is much much more going on than meets the eye, while at the
same time extending it's loving sphere of influence and making itself known, and unknowable, both.
And then words come to an end.
Heaven, are you there? Knock knock.
We either know the answer to this question, or we do not know, and yet willingly not knowing brings a gnosis
of the unknowable, the
unfathomable, the unimaginable, even the unthinkable.
But it's not beyond reason, it's before it. It's what we already KNEW, that's what I think, that's what I "know" intuitively.
It makes me laugh.
Even getting to pose this very question, and make this thread, no matter what anyone responds with, is already heaven, to me, so thank you in advance
for contributing your slice, whether in words or in silent contemplation of something we so desperately need to bring in
by whatever means,
because if it's there, which it is, we need a LOT more of it, especially these days God only knows!
"Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name (goes by many names)
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"
So that's what I say.
Bring it on!
edit on 14-3-2012 by NewAgeMan because: it's unreasonably reasonable, ultra-rational and supra-reasonable er.. edit.