posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 10:35 PM
Originally posted by OnTheLevel213
Absent evidence in either direction, I'm willing to humor the idea that Lee was a Mason, especially since the OP is still so very far from right
about anything else.
Oh, I don't doubt that Lee was a Mason. In his own writings Lee wrote
The next Sunday was a cloudy day, so the
meeting was held within doors. Dickey had by this time raised his mob to fifty men, and made every arrangement to give me a warm reception. Two
ruffians who were intoxicated had been selected to start the disturbance, or "open the ball," as they called it. I had just commenced speaking when
one of these men began to swear and use indecent language, and made a rush for me with his fist drawn. I made a Masonic sign of distress, when, to my
relief and yet to my surprise, a planter pushed to my aid. He was the man who employed Dickey. He took the drunken men and led them out of the crowd,
and then sat by me during the rest of my sermon, thus giving me full protection. That man was a stranger to me, but he was a good man and a true
Mason. His action put an end to mob rule at that place. After the meeting I baptized ten
What I do take issue with is dign4it's claims
About the children that survived, they, along with the posessions of the parties with the wagon
train, were divided up, starting with the highest ranking Mason and going on down to the lowest ranking Mason. John Lee, being the highest ranking
Mason, took the best of the posessions and gave them to Brigham Young. Now all they had left to divide up was the children. That, too, was done in
The possessions were divided by rank within the church, not within Masonry (it's not even shown that any of the others at the meadow were Masons
other than Lee...)
Again, from Lee's own account
The children that were saved were taken to Cedar City and other settlements and put out among different families. I
did not have anything to do with the property captured from the emigrants, or the cattle, until three months after the massacre, and then I took
charge of the cattle, being ordered to do so by Brigham. There were eighteen wagons in all at the emigrant camp. They were wooden axles but one, and
that was a light iron axle; it had been hauled by four mules. There were over five hundred head of cattle, but I never got the half of them. The
Indians killed a number at the time of the massacre, and drove others to their tribes when they went home from Mountain Meadows. Bishop Klingensmith
put the Church brand on fifty head or more of the best of the cattle.
The Indians got about twenty head of horses and mules. Brother Samuel Knight got a large sorrel mare; Brother Haight got a span of average American
mules; Brother Joel White got a fine mare; Brother Higbee got a good large mule; Bishop Klingensmith got a span of mules. Brothers Haight, Higbee, and
Allen each took a wagon. The people took what they wanted, and had divided and used up over half the property before I was put in charge.
doesn't sound like Lee got any of the children, or that Lee was the highest ranking and got first pick, or that it was "done in short time".