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Not All Marines Are Evil. Marine Saves Man From Being Stabbed.

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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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With all the negativity surrounding the Marine Corps in the news lately, I thought I would give an example to show that not all Marines are evil. Most are honest men and women and truly want to help their fellow citizens. Here is an example of a Marine doing just that.

patdollard.com...


LANCASTER, Calif. — Lance Cpl. Joshua Escandon was going to lunch with his wife, Feb. 26, in Lancaster, Calif., when his Marine instincts kicked-in because he heard the cries of a woman screaming for help from afar.

Escandon stepped out of his car and immediately knew something was not quite right. He scanned his surroundings and spotted a group of people acting disorderly.

When Escandon heard a woman yelling, “They are going to kill him! Help him!” he knew he had to take action.

“I got out of the car,” said Escandon, a radio operator with 3rd Air-Naval Gunfire Liaison Company. “Then all I heard was a woman screaming, shouts and commotion. I knew I had to do something.”

The Marine ran towards the direction of the crowd, where he was blocked by a group of onlookers from what appeared to be a physical altercation taking place.




posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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You're right, not all marines are evil, some are good people.

Unfortunately, most can't think their way out of a wet paper box, and that's the problem with them. One doesn't need intelligence to be a good person, but intelligence helps when one is ordered to shoot civilians because those are his/her orders to do so. How many were trained to think before reacting? None! Act first, think later... because thinking can cost a marine their life, right?

It seems like you are scrounging to find good marine stories, like some people scrounge to find a good cop story. Rare stories but they do exist. The problem is, they're rare stories.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
You're right, not all marines are evil, some are good people.

Unfortunately, most can't think their way out of a wet paper box, and that's the problem with them. One doesn't need intelligence to be a good person, but intelligence helps when one is ordered to shoot civilians because those are his/her orders to do so. How many were trained to think before reacting? None! Act first, think later... because thinking can cost a marine their life, right?

It seems like you are scrounging to find good marine stories, like some people scrounge to find a good cop story. Rare stories but they do exist. The problem is, they're rare stories.


Actually most Marine are quite intelligent. That is another misconception about them as well. And Marines are taught to think before they act. The NCO's (non-commissioned officers) and officers do not get into the positions they have by being dumb or reacting without thinking. Now are there some bad apples occasionally, sure there are.

I don't have to scrounge for stories of Marines doing good things. Stories like these are actually quite easily found. It's just too bad that the media always portrays the negative side of things and rejects the good.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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It is the orders from above that Marines carry out that I don't like. If there were no soldiers there would be no wars. Did you or any other Marine that you know question the lies that led us into war?



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Good to see a positive story for once being posted. The media is quick to seize on all the bad things while ignoring the rest simply because its not news worthy.

Also, thank you for your service.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Nope 99% of them are good people. Every time I see a story about the Marines, I think of this...



Pay attention to the last paragraph.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Witness2008
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It is the orders from above that Marines carry out that I don't like. If there were no soldiers there would be no wars. Did you or any other Marine that you know question the lies that led us into war?





Is it impossible for people to stay on topic when its a good story about something ATS hates?

This Marine went above and beyond to save a person at his own risk. There are 900k other threads dissing the military. Lets try to have at least one for the other side of the fence?



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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EVIL civilians must be stopped!


All around the world we see in the various news sources the scourge that is plaguing this land. Civilians killing and hurting civilians and rarely are there any outcries.

More civilians kill each other on a day to day basis than Soldiers and LEOs combined. That is a fact.

But there are many civilian acts of kindness that occur daily as well. And never get reported.

See where I'm going with this?

If it bleeds, it leads in the MSM.

But there are plenty of stories out there on the other sites (sometimes even the MSM) that show that all is not lost for humanity.

Last I checked, Soldiers, Lawyers, Cooks, Plumbers, Cops, etc, etc...are all People. For better or worse.

Well, I'm still on the fence on whether Lawyers are actually people.


The Good, The Bad and the Ugly.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Witness2008
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It is the orders from above that Marines carry out that I don't like. If there were no soldiers there would be no wars. Did you or any other Marine that you know question the lies that led us into war?


I completely agree with your first statement. We did talk amongst ourselves of our opinions quite often and not all of us agreed with the decisions that have been made. Most of us when deployed to a combat zone try to make the best out of a bad situation. Myself and my unit actually helped alot of people in our Area of Operations.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Agreed. I often am tempted to find out what it would take to embed with a unit and document and write about their deployment experiences in order to bring an accurate version back for people to see. The media is so biased in that department that it make me sick. If war with Iran or anyone else comes I will deffinitely do that. As long as I can be with Marines though.

Thank you. Semper Fi.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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My grandfather was a WWII marine who saw lots of live combat.
My father was in the army during the Cuban missile crisis.
I have many active duty friends who are enlisted in various branches of the military. Just about all of them have a deformed way of thinking about themselves and life in general. It feels stale and cold.

I speak of my experience with all of them, and the anger I feel for their lack of empathy and foresight of the bigger picture being played out using THEM as attack dogs for corporate world domination. I am on your side, and I happen to care about the soldiers, which is why I get so angry with them.




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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
You're right, not all marines are evil, some are good people.

Unfortunately, most can't think their way out of a wet paper box, and that's the problem with them. One doesn't need intelligence to be a good person, but intelligence helps when one is ordered to shoot civilians because those are his/her orders to do so. How many were trained to think before reacting? None! Act first, think later... because thinking can cost a marine their life, right?

It seems like you are scrounging to find good marine stories, like some people scrounge to find a good cop story. Rare stories but they do exist. The problem is, they're rare stories.


This is an absolutely scandalous, almost obscene, response.

"not all marines are evil" ??

"some are good people" ??

"when one is ordered to shoot civilians" ??

"rare stories but they do exist"

I'm sorry, but 99.999999999999999% of U.S. Marines are brave, good, heroic men and women.

I am completely sick and tired...sorry...of people putting down the people who put their lives on the line to protect our freedoms. And here I am talking about all of the "Western Warriors" from America, Canada, Great Britain, France and other countries.

Really...how dare you say "not all" Marines are evil?

edit on 14-3-2012 by mobiusmale because: typos



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
You're right, not all marines are evil, some are good people.

Unfortunately, most can't think their way out of a wet paper box, and that's the problem with them. One doesn't need intelligence to be a good person, but intelligence helps when one is ordered to shoot civilians because those are his/her orders to do so. How many were trained to think before reacting? None! Act first, think later... because thinking can cost a marine their life, right?

It seems like you are scrounging to find good marine stories, like some people scrounge to find a good cop story. Rare stories but they do exist. The problem is, they're rare stories.


You obviously have not spent time in the armed forces or if you did, you pushed paper. There are idiots in any organized group. For proof, read the comment you made in this thread.

The reason you don't read about the "good" news is because average good news is not newsworthy. Intelligent people understand this. Do you need clarification?



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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I am completely sick and tired...sorry...of people putting down the people who put their lives on the line to product our freedoms.

Really? Last time I checked, we are losing our "freedoms" at a rapid pace, especially since 2002. So tell me, did all those deceased soldiers lives make a difference for our freedoms?

Seems to me, by paying attention to what's going on, the soldiers are losing that battle.
The terrorists hate us because of our freedoms, so to counter that threat, the gov't is going to take away our freedoms?? Makes perfect sense. Enjoy the Kool-aid.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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“Like Marines look out for each other in combat, we have to protect our fellow man too and stop letting stuff like this happen, or it will just happen more.”

This type of conscious thinking above 1 likes to see.


Its nice to see a man of the military assisting outside the battle zones in a positive way (considering the strains involved with returning back to their native land mass). It has been observed that SOME of the Marines/or other Military of EA*RTH have acted in negative vibrating fashions against the HERD, but like ALL* UNIVERSAL ENERGIES some of the Marines/or other Military or EA*RTH are positive vibrating creations and others are negative vibrating creations. This individual stepped outside of his personal comfort zone to assist another of the species in a positive way and for that 1 respects.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi

Really? Last time I checked, we are losing our "freedoms" at a rapid pace, especially since 2002. So tell me, did all those deceased soldiers lives make a difference for our freedoms?

Seems to me, by paying attention to what's going on, the soldiers are losing that battle.
The terrorists hate us because of our freedoms, so to counter that threat, the gov't is going to take away our freedoms?? Makes perfect sense. Enjoy the Kool-aid.


Well done dippity-do...just more by-extension-negativity toward our men and women in uniform.

Exactly what does a Marine, fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan...or Al Qaeda in Iraq...have to do with Obama's assaults on the Constitution at home?

How do legislative misdeeds (which will ultimately be corrected by the Supreme Court) somehow prove that most Marines are "evil"?

Enjoy the Kool-aid indeed.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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I agree with some of what you have to say. I also truly believe that it will be the members of our armed forces and veterans who when the time comes will redeliver those freedoms to the american people. The problem is that the situation has yet to reach critical mass. Not enough people are living in desperation so deep it forces them to act. I do believe that we are well on our way to reaching critical mass. The military is being stretched thin, and there is enormous strain on the American people as well.

More and more people (military included) aqre waking up to the greater truths of our world and as this grows so will the want and the will to serve the American public and carry out our oaths we so dearly hold. When the rest of America raises the horse puckey flag, the honorable men and women of this country will stand up and carry out the will of the people.

Time will tell how it all will play out. I for one always stand ready. My body may not be in the beast of health, but my mind is as sharp as ever, so I will keep my powder dry and stay frosty.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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This is just about every pro military thread I see...

Civilian: "Stop the wars! Don't fight for their corporate take over of the world! Bring our soldiers home! Stop putting our troops in harms way for no good reasons! Stop the killing!

Soldier: "Will you people shut up already? What's wrong with you? Our soldiers are heroes, brave and true, fighting for our freedoms! Stop disrespecting them!

Civilian 2: "Yeah, glass parking lots in Iraq! Kill those Hajis! Bomb everyone! Man I wish I could join but I'm too young/old/stupid but I'd love to be doing 5 tours if I could! I play Call of Duty all the time and can't wait to get over there! Semper Fi!!

Soldier: "Thanks man! Your support is appreciated. We do what we can to get Walmarts in every country around the world, and Halliburton is doing what they can to make that happen. We do it for people like you guys who support us over there, thank you...."

So the people who want peace and to save lives are shunned and ridiculed while the pro war enthusiasts are thanked for supporting more innocent lives being lost, both soldiers and civilians. Got to love backwards world.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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So the people who want peace and to save lives are shunned and ridiculed while the pro war enthusiasts are thanked for supporting more innocent lives being lost, both soldiers and civilians. Got to love backwards world.



And the soilders that are performing with honor are lumped in with a few idiots by the computer geeks who hide behind their computer screens and think they know the real world by what they've read on the interent.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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military aren't evil.The tawdry few who are scewed up, don't last long.The leaders are evil who order the military.What do you think Obama doesn't know what the military does?
We break things and kill people,they want that.We do it with high skill because we love you guys and we have to.
Who is to blame the surgeon or the scalpel.



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