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Originally posted by JimOberg
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Buzz E. Miller (real name Martyn Stubbs)
Isn't there some 'terms of service' taboo on masquerading as an alias?
Originally posted by dejarmaX
After all this time people are still capitalizing on this footage!?!? Yeah great, why not!! The gullible will always keep the few laughing all the way to the bank-- bless em.... How long did it take for the gullible to finally realize the: 'alien autopsy' footage was a fake created to earn money for those involved!?!? Oh to live in a fantasy world--- it must be bliss!
Originally posted by martynNASAman
This renewed attack on the STS 48 footage is going to be re hashed on the TV show you are promoting. I have worked with Discovery LLC......but the program is called UFOs-or NO. So I can not know if it is the same show as you were told it was... but I'm sure it will be full of the usual B.S.
but just showing those clips will be good enough as most people tune out the Oberg/skeptic crap anyway!
Originally posted by buzzEmiller
reply to post by The Shrike
You are not alone...The tether incident not ice & UFO Hunters is pathetic. And if the tether UFOs are so obviously nothing at all...then why are so many people making new TV shows to examine &/or debunk it along with the other NASA videos.
OK...many space flights have more than video cameras alone. NASA also used cameras & special films that could see into the invisible range of light energy better than video cameras.
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by martynNASAman
Well if you are who you claim to be can you get info on the lens on the camera or full camera specs.
Info like depth of field etc would be useful.
Originally posted by wmd_2008
Originally posted by buzzEmiller
reply to post by The Shrike
You are not alone...The tether incident not ice & UFO Hunters is pathetic. And if the tether UFOs are so obviously nothing at all...then why are so many people making new TV shows to examine &/or debunk it along with the other NASA videos.
Simple really, people like you will watch they can get revenue from ads ,they can then sell a dvd people like you will by that ,then the book , then the t-shirt and after a year or so they will claim new evidence to bring out part 2 which people lke you will watch................etc etc.
Originally posted by JimOberg
I think Martyn is quite correct re the TOPS camera on STS-75, but
what the heck does it have to do with the theme of this thread?
Originally posted by JimOberg
Maybe we need to make smaller steps in the development of this argument. My "99 FAQs" is a big dump into the ufological culture, and Shrike, there were specific responses in it to precise issues you have continued to raise as if they were not in dispute -- so I wish you especially would read throught it again, identify specifics you want to contest, and focus on them.
Perhaps the place to start is the nature of the space around a shuttle during the recording of such videos -- specifically, where it is full of sunlight, and where it is 'dark' [shadowed]. Getting that established can lead to some eureka moments of realization of WHY some of these images look as bizarre as they do.
On STS-48, can we agree that it's a minute or two after orbital sunrise, the camera is pointed 'down sun', and a region in front of the camera is still in the shadow cast by the shuttle itself. OK?
Originally posted by JimOberg
Shrike, can we approach this dispute in small steps?
Are you satisifed that there is, indeed, a dawn shadow zone down-sun of spacecraft, inside of which any small spacecraft-generated dandruff would be invisible until it drifts out of the shadow and into sunlight?
Is such a concept within the range of your belief system?
Originally posted by mcrom901
sts 49 video full sequence