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Fired For Using Birth Control? It Could Be Possible In Arizona

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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Arizona House Bill 2625, authored by Majority Whip Debbie Lesko, R-Glendale, would permit employers to ask their employees for proof of medical prescription if they seek contraceptives for non-reproductive purposes, such as hormone control or acne treatment. “I believe we live in America. We don’t live in the Soviet Union,” Lesko said. “So, government should not be telling the organizations or mom and pop employers to do something against their moral beliefs.”


My opinion: We do not live in the Soviet Union! The employer should have no right to violate an employees private life. PERIOD!! Have we become insane? Is all the fluoride in the water causing this insanity???


Arizona, like nearly half the rest of the country, is an at-will employment state. “At will” simply means that an employee can be fired without cause. Not only would the bill grant employers the right to pry into a woman’s (and only a woman’s) medical history, it would give them opportunity to fire women for simply having a sex life.


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If an employer is going to offer you a company car as a benefit, she doesn’t get to decide what the safety specs are for that car. That’s between the government and the car manufacturer on behalf of the consumer. By the same token, if an employer is going to offer you health insurance at all, that insurance has to meet the minimum standards. When the Affordable Care Act goes into full effect, employers with at least 50 employees will have a choice. They can either offer qualified health insurance or they can pay a tax of $2000 per employee. If a large religious institution doesn’t want to offer health insurance to its workers, for whatever reason, it can simply pay up. Religious liberty does not require the government to give religious institutions a pass on offering substandard insurance.



This is just crazy in my opinion. They want to abolish abortions and deny birth control to the entire population!

What are reproductive rights? Well, its my right to keep the government and anyone else other than myself out of my womb! But thinking about the motivation for those elitists; if those at risk for multiple births just to get welfare to pay them $$ are forced to be on birth control, it = taxes for you and I saved. If abortion is made illegal, than it should be fair to give out birth control, controlling cost we pay, but increasing $$$ in pharmacy pocket...??

How about we learn from China and just make it illegal to have more than x1 child.(insert sarcasm) After studies of planetary sustainability and facts that our population as a species is exploding, is it really wrong to ask those who cannot afford children or have learned helplessness to take their birth control pill?? hmmm

If I was an employer who was that worried about women being on birth control, how about not offering insurance and have your employer purchase insurance some where else?

Don't we have other things we should be doing other than arguing about if you are allowed to work and be on birth control.? If it was up to me I would not care either way. If I hire you to work for me, my care would be that you perform your job correctly and are on time...What the hell.... I love this scenario:


EMPLOYER: Um, Lisa, I see here that you have a prescription for a birth control pill.

LISA: What?

EMPLOYER: That’s right, a birth control pill. Why are you on birth control pills?

LISA: Excuse me?

EMPLOYER: Why are you on birth control?

LISA: I’m sorry, sir, but that’s personal.

EMPLOYER: No, it’s not. I believe that birth control is a sin and I’ll need to see proof that you aren’t using it so you can have unlimited sex. LISA: What?????

EMPLOYER: Lisa, you seem rather tongue tied on the subject. Should I take that to mean that you, an unmarried woman, are using birth control only for sex?

LISA (red-faced and nearly in tears): But…I get really bad cramps. That’s why the doctor gave them to me. Plus, I don’t want to get pregnant.

EMPLOYER: So you’re admitting you have sex.

LISA: No…no. I’m not admitting anything. Isn’t that my business?

EMPLOYER: No. I need to know that I am not paying for sin. I need proof that you are using birth control for non-sexual purposes. Take the rest of the day off and go to your doctor. You can come back when you have a note from him saying that the pills aren’t for sex.

LISA: But it comes out of my insurance. I pay for that out of every paycheck.

EMPLOYER: You only pay for half the insurance. I pay for the other half. I need to make sure that you aren’t violating my First Amendment rights.

*Shaking and in tears, Lisa leaves for her doctor. The doctor, also a Catholic, (the largest religious bloc) refuses to write the note. Lisa is never allowed to return to work.



Many more sources in following posts

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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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I'm sorry, but you're just helping the MSM/Democrat party propaganda campaign to distract from the bad economy with this fictional "war on women". This would NEVER, EVER, happen. It's all meant to get emotional people to ignore the bad economy, high unemployment and high gas prices and instead focus on a non-existent boogyman.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by PvtHudson
I'm sorry, but you're just helping the MSM/Democrat party propaganda campaign to distract from the bad economy with this fictional "war on women". This would NEVER, EVER, happen. It's all meant to get emotional people to ignore the bad economy, high unemployment and high gas prices and instead focus on a non-existent boogyman.


You're nuts if you really think Republicans aren't trying to set women's rights back 100 years!



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 07:55 AM
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Im not distracting, what is distracting is Arizona House Bill 2625, authored by Majority Whip Debbie Lesko, R-Glendale.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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best part was either offer qualified insurance or pay 2000 dollar tax per employee! so either give you your employees insurance or give us money, F the employee. do we know where that tax money would go? im assuming probably not medicare-aid, even if it did those people have jobs and still wouldn't qualify, way to help out middle america.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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right! listen to rick santorum speak for about 5 mins and see how he feels about women.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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@ the whole of the USA: MUHAHAHA - you are f***ed, sorry.. See what your lobbyists and the religious nuts are doing to you?


Good luck with your rep. candidates - you can only loose. Santorum? You would get the above scenario ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!


I feel sorry for your country. You should really try to drop that religious stuff, as fast and far as possible. It won't do you any good.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by PhantomLimb



You're nuts if you really think Republicans aren't trying to set women's rights back 100 years!


You watch too much TV and read too much Daily Kos. Nobody is trying to set women's right back. It's a mass media meme, meant to distract from all the negative economic news produced by 6 years of Democrat rule.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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I have been pondering the current campaign to remove women's ability to make health care decisions on their own. I have been completely unable to find a way to counteract the foolishness of these bills considering women to be less than fully important and able to make their own decisions. The only thing I can think of is, "Maybe Lysistrata had it right."



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Imagine, in the future, all the GMO foods we have eaten has made us sterile, and only few women and men are fertile; will we then be rounded up for breeding purposes?

Has anyone seen the movie: The Handmaidens Tale?


Plot summary In the near future war rages across the fictional Republic of Gilead and pollution has rendered 99% of the female population sterile. Kate (Offred in the novel) is captured after seeing her husband killed and daughter kidnapped while the family tried to escape into Canada. Kate is trained to become a Handmaid, a concubine for one of the privileged but barren couples who rule the country's religious fundamentalist regime. Although she resists being indoctrinated into the bizarre cult of the Handmaids, mixing the Old Testament orthodoxy and misogyny with 12-step gospel and ritualized violence, Kate is soon assigned to the home of the Commander and his cold, inflexible wife


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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Starwise
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Arizona House Bill 2625,


Looks like your sources are BS.
Perhaps that it came from a site called 'DemocraticDiva' would have been a hint.

Text of Arizona House Bill 2625
It's all about domestic relations and disposition of property in divorce.
And it was introduced by Representatives Lesko: Barton, Kavanagh, Olson, Pierce, Pratt, Proud


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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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I am wondering when people are going to wake up and realize what is truly going on. It's not about birth control, or trying to help out, it is simply trying to gain full control over humanity.

I just wished everyone would truly look around and see what is taking place.


Cheers,


!!!



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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Further proof if the media repeats the same agenda over and over people believe it as true. Please explain how now wanting my tax payer dollars or insurance premiums to pay for all women's birth control = hating women? If you want to see what hating women looks like all you have to do is go back to the 2008 election campaign and compile a list of name-calling the media and Democrats did against a women VP candidate. True colors.



















posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Starwise
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Arizona House Bill 2625,


Looks like your sources are BS.
Perhaps that it came from a site called 'DemocraticDiva' would have been a hint.

Text of Arizona House Bill 2625
It's all about domestic relations and disposition of property in divorce.
And it was introduced by Representatives Lesko: Barton, Kavanagh, Olson, Pierce, Pratt, Proud


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ACLU

ell Politicians: Don't Play Politics With Women's Health Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Arizona's HB 2625 is a radical proposal that would allow employers to claim they have the right to fire employees for using birth control. The bill would also allow employers to refuse to provide insurance coverage for contraception. This proposal, and ones we've seen like it in Congress, are part of a widespread attempt to prevent access to contraception and limit women's health care. We can't let extremists get away with this kind of attack. Join us in telling the Arizona Senate to kill this bill so we can make politicians all across the country take note — we won't stand silently by and watch extremists use religion to discriminate and deny millions of women urgently needed access to birth control. We will stand up for women's health care.

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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Bill allowing employers to refuse contraception coverage passes AZ House by Taylor Summers/KTAR (March 13th, 2012 @ 3:16pm) Policy >> Talk About It PHOENIX -- The same fight that took ahold of the U.S. Congress is now raging on at the Arizona Legislature. However, the difference is this one looks like it'll end with a different result. Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Glendale) is pushing House bill 2625, which would allow employers to opt out of covering contraception in their company's health insurance plans if they are morally or ethically opposed to the use of birth control for whatever reason. The bill is patterned after the Blunt Amendment that failed to pass through the U.S. Congress earlier this year. The amendment and HB 2625 both fight the Federal Government mandate for businesses, regardless of their religious affiliation, to provide women with the option to get contraception in health insurance coverage plans. "We live in America. We don't live in the Soviet Union," Lesko said. "The government shouldn't be telling mom-and- pop employers and religious organizations to do something that's against the moral or religious beliefs. It's just not right." However, the bill is drawing fire from several groups, including the ACLU. Women's privacy issues aside, the ACLU is concerned that the bill could hurt religious liberty instead of defending it. "This bill goes well beyond defending religious rights," Anjali Abraham, policy director for the Arizona ACLU, said. "It's not defending rights to religious liberty. It allows employers to prioritize their own rights over the beliefs and the needs of their employees."


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Huffingntonpost

I am finding a lot more sources for this aspect of the bill than the one from website: elobbyist.com

I find the ACLU more reliable than the elobbyist.......



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