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What happens to the New Borns?

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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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I have been doing alot of research on spirituality and also catching up with modern science of the brain and how in coincides with consciousness. Aswell as keeping up with diverse religions around the world.

It would seem to me that after spending 2 years under the mediation processes that reincarnation and the spirit realm is highly plausible. I also believe that even with the no heaven and hell rule as you would get in a reincarnation system. That their still is a saved and unsaved.

So lets break this down and try to figure this out together shall we?

Come with me on a spiritual voyage as we delve into the realm of the unknown.

First lets start with saved spirits. These are referred to as "old souls" they seem to be born with the knowledge of I've done this before a million times. Imagine playing a video game. Imagine further that the character you are playing is a real live entity. At first you most likely suck at the game it's a new realm to you.

Adter awhile though the game becomes easy! Why? Because you done it before! Is then the game character you are playing with mirrioring an "old soul" in our realm?

I believe they are! I further believe that to punch your card for reincarnation in a living entity you must meditate.

So now what happens to souls who are unsaved? The new borns as far as the spiritual realm would be concerned.

I call them the new borns because they are born and grow up to be just like spirits who have never experienced this before. Just like playing a new game. They are constantly falling off the ledge and missing that extra man!

So someone who never meditates and never establishes there connection to universal consciousness what happens to them?

Do they come back as blades of glass or trees? Wouldn't it make sense that someone who connects would come back as a entity such as a human again or something that experiences it's world like we do.

Or do they come back as something like a chair or innanimate object that is basically their just to serve a purpose for the living. Because even these objects are alive to.

Your thoughts?




posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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well, this is gonna be majority just my imagination and not based on any experience. i'd imagine souls evolving "through " the species. A human life would be the end or this process or the only type of life where an end can happen.. The exit door of existence for the soul. if one still has desire and identifies to form they'll retake human form until they no longer desire to exist as separate from god and dissolve into him



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Wouldn't you agree though that the greatest gift by god whether it be universal consciousness or some deity we cannot comprehend. Is the gift of the illusion of free will and individualism?



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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So if we are stuck in this realm for the time being as we haven't gotten enough points or found the key that unlocks the next level what happens when we die and have to restart the game?

Do we come back as a tunnel or something animatively alive?



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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i used to think that you had to work your way up to be a human. never really going back down, only advancing, sometimes not very far. but not i have accepted that i don't know. i don't know if there is an afterlife. i know there are things to this universe we don't understand. thats why there are ghost and people seeing the future in their dreams, telekinesis. stuff like that does happen. i know from experience. but i have never died in a literal sense. so the best i can offer is my imagination

and the individual is not an illusion, he's separation from god is what is illusory
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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 01:09 AM
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I feel as humans we are too obnoxious as a species to think that we are so great. What if we are the start of the chain? Why would we be an eagle and then come back as a human to learn to walk, talk, eat, communicate, etc. and then go be a star? it doesn't make since.
I'm not being literal in the jump in reincarnation after death I'm just exaggerating for some of you.
What if humans are the first link in the chain of reincarnation? We live our life and learn to do what we have to do to live. Depending on how we do, we move forward to what we either need or deserve to get reincarnated into.

Just my two cents though



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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Well of course I forgot to answer the Question!

If a soul dies at a young age of course can be angry and stay here! But when they "cross over" maybe its when they reincarnate back into being a human. Maybe they ran into a fault in their past life that kept them from moving on past human reincarnation.



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 02:44 AM
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from my perspective, it is all evil giant abusive traps, we are abused from our individual limitations, since we exist as aware objectively so nothing objectively, we cant afford our awareness to be negative, negative and nothing cant be existing while we are forced to be existing, so we are abused in what we have to force ourselves as positive facts so we can b enslaved endlessly
from what i see, a human awareness of now can b an animal awareness in future life, it is obvious that communication skills is not the condition end, it is all such mechanical and true humans awareness are totally agressed from up and destroyed

we are forced to mortal condition as humiliating fact, and only for glorifications life to eternity so eternal gods

there is nothing humiliating of what we didnt do, while in truth size dont matters when only freedom is the value that do matter a lot
and we are free as aware much more then gods like, from what we have to deal with our instants each second in same ways abstractions freely, only freedom can realize that
and the fact that we exist by our legs to move objectively, give a lot of value to our awareness right to b free since our existence is really humiliating in its extreme limited condition while we are witnessing it all

we are not things when we are conscious we belong to freedom rights in truth realm

but since gods are through rights abuses the expert owners, then there is no issue

but whoever would conclude that gods are superior then are wrong

facts when are said become more the facts they are untill truth would reach us here and kill them for us



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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i see humans and all other sentient beings as being the peak because we can cross over from pure survival to something more subtle, more divine



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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So of all the religions you have been studying....You end up with Jehovah's witness mixed with meditation??

Why I even continue to read some of the stuff on here is just beyond me....But I can't stop once I start, anyone else have that problem? Or is it just me?



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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But then you have to take into account that reincarnation just ain't chained to the earth. Why would you live as an eagle and then go be apart of advanced civilization already traveling the cosmos.

Jus throwing it out there ofcourse we don't know but it's good to speculate.
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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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New born as in new soul someone who has never been someone from the past. Basically a "New Soul" rather then a "Old Soul"



posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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Actually it's more like crusade war drum you got it wrong. Anyone who doesn't believe in the same as me is to be tortured to death.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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I wonder hwy that guy seemed so obsessed with pornography and babies. Like every post was a subliminal message to wanting it to be about molesting children.

Must be the dope!



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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Easy, the new borns as you call them just start over untill they learn the lessons we need to get to the metaphysical state... as far as reincarnation as animals they are our guides they give us hints and nudges in the right direction... unfortunatley most of the newborns dont learn this and get caught in a painfull cycle



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