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reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 04:18 AM by johnlear
Certainly your previous statement of a lunar atmosphere is a fiction.



Really? Have you been there? (I haven't been there either.) What are you basing your opinion on? Books? 'Scientific fact'? How do you know that is really 'fact'? Did you ever wonder what Neil Armstrong meant in his speech on the 25th anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing? The one where he speculated what we would 'discover' when the 'layers of secrecy were removed'? Did you ever wonder why Neil, in the 25 years since Apollo 11 landed on the moon has given less than 5 interviews? Did you ever wonder why one of the Apollo astronauts stated in a book he wrote that all he could remember about being on the moon was a "shiny pair of black shoes"? Did you ever wonder why the LOM of every Apollo mission orbited at 70 miles above the moon? I mean, thats awfully high for a moon that is supposed to have only 1/6th the earths gravity. Did you ever wonder why NASA photo 69-HC-431 published in the 1971 Encyclopedia of Discoveryand Exploration (page 131 of the 17th volume, The Moon and Beyond by Fred Apel) can't be found by NASA, and has never again been released by NASA? Thats the photo where the moon's atmosphere appears as a dense band of blue on the lunar horizon. You know, the one taken when Neil says, "I can see the sky all around the moon, even on the rim of it, where there's no earthshine or sunshine". I always wondered why. Thats why I state that my claims are fiction. Sheer fiction. I have never been to the moon, but I speculate, without a shred of evidence, not a shred, that I could stand in the middle of the Mare Tranquillitatis, in the middle of a moon day and look up into a clear blue sky.


reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 06:30 AM by DramaticPause
Originally posted by johnlear
Really? Have you been there? (I haven't been there either.) What are you basing your opinion on? Books? 'Scientific fact'? How do you know that is really 'fact'? Did you ever wonder what Neil Armstrong meant in his speech on the 25th anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing? The one where he speculated what we would 'discover' when the 'layers of secrecy were removed'? Did you ever wonder why Neil, in the 25 years since Apollo 11 landed on the moon has given less than 5 interviews? Did you ever wonder why one of the Apollo astronauts stated in a book he wrote that all he could remember about being on the moon was a "shiny pair of black shoes"? Did you ever wonder why the LOM of every Apollo mission orbited at 70 miles above the moon? I mean, thats awfully high for a moon that is supposed to have only 1/6th the earths gravity. Did you ever wonder why NASA photo 69-HC-431 published in the 1971 Encyclopedia of Discoveryand Exploration (page 131 of the 17th volume, The Moon and Beyond by Fred Apel) can't be found by NASA, and has never again been released by NASA? Thats the photo where the moon's atmosphere appears as a dense band of blue on the lunar horizon. You know, the one taken when Neil says, "I can see the sky all around the moon, even on the rim of it, where there's no earthshine or sunshine". I always wondered why. Thats why I state that my claims are fiction. Sheer fiction. I have never been to the moon, but I speculate, without a shred of evidence, not a shred, that I could stand in the middle of the Mare Tranquillitatis, in the middle of a moon day and look up into a clear blue sky.


No, I have not been to the moon. And I'm confused as to why you would ask.

However, I recall a certain event:
nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...
At the end of the last Apollo 15 moon walk, Commander David Scott (pictured above) performed a live demonstration for the television cameras. He held out a geologic hammer and a feather and dropped them at the same time. Because they were essentially in a vacuum, there was no air resistance and the feather fell at the same rate as the hammer, as Galileo had concluded hundreds of years before - all objects released together fall at the same rate regardless of mass.


How do you explain that? It appears that facts are against you.



reply posted on 22-9-2004 @ 12:54 PM by johnlear
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No, I have not been to the moon. And I'm confused as to why you would ask.

However, I recall a certain event:
nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...
At the end of the last Apollo 15 moon walk, Commander David Scott (pictured above) performed a live demonstration for the television cameras. He held out a geologic hammer and a feather and dropped them at the same time. Because they were essentially in a vacuum, there was no air resistance and the feather fell at the same rate as the hammer, as Galileo had concluded hundreds of years before - all objects released together fall at the same rate regardless of mass.


How do you explain that? It appears that facts are against you.


With all due respect to you and your belief systems, I asked if you had been to the moon as a way of pointing out that neither of us is likely to be able to prove his point.

With regard to the feather and hammer hat trick, my 3 year old grandson can do that.

Threatening anothers 'facts' is a hazard for truthseekers.
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