Secrets Of The Craft From A Master Mason!

Originally posted by skywalk
and thats just one 'event' on billions other events that masons did that shouldnt be done.

You're saying we shouldn't have gone to the moon? During the height of the cold war? Wouldn't it have demoralized America if Russia had gotten there first? Wouldn't it have tainted JFK's legacy if we hadn't tried?

i live in canada and i never heard or read the news saying masons donated to this and a new family park was built in downtown xCity. or mason donated 50millions to this organisation in the last 50 days and they found a cure to herpes. sorry but no.

Real charity is done anonymously.

But since you asked...

www.shrinershospitalsforchildren.org...
www.tsrhc.org...
www.knightstemplar.org...

Here's one in your neighborhood...
www.shrinershospitalsforchildren.org...

reply to post by bdb818888


Who said the Mason worshiped the devil ? I never heard that. I think what people refer to is the use of ritual that is not strictly Christian. Any time ritual is used that is not Christian ritual it is labled as demonic . Anything pagan is demonic, anything wiccan is demonic. Anything that is not Christian, you get the point yes? The masons use proven rituals that use magic that has nothing to do with Jesus and this frightens people. The big secret that is being kept from you all is that magic is real and we can all use it. They do and look how sucessfull they are.

Originally posted by KSigMasonreply to post by Mandrakerealmz

 

His Masonic membership is incidental to his criminal activity. If it is proven then he should be impeached (or whatever Kiwis do to punish their leadership).

Actually the only legitimate Masonic symbol is a cornerstone which was dedicated by the Grand Lodge of Colorado.

Indeed we should...... Our country's media has been bought off by News Corp subsidiaries though so we dont get the truth. Like any other western country. :/

Grand Lodge of Colorado you say? Ile remember that. Did you know the US tax payer payed for that Elitist bunker of doom? I mean "Civilian Airport"

May I suggest it seems not all the Lodges are as respectful as yours might be? This shouldn't be an issue I have to prove to you. It should be an issue your aware of and I was just wondering if Free Masons care that certain lodges get used by our Illuminati self proclaimed overlords? As I stated before if I was in such situation I would be furious.

Names..... I shall have to do more research into specific people who have more influence on the world stage who also claim to be masons.

The Federal Reserve and all talking heads that go through that revolving door im sure has some prominent Mason names attached.

And now that you've mentioned The Grand Lodge of Colorado. I will have to do more research into why the Hell they Laid the corner stone for a New World Order facility.....

These arnt good looks for free masonry. Stating what Ive said is incomplete and brushing it to the side is also Not a good look.

Its the year 2012 and its time to step up. The freemasons could be "Publicly" One of the groups that represents the human race on the intergalactic stage. It only seems fitting given the thousands of years of history.

However currently.... Got some dirty laundry to be dealing with

reply to post by Scilon


It leads me to believe that you are just a suspicious person in general. The Masons are not criminals. They are very civic minded and do many many good things for the communities that they are in. This is another case of its not Christian it must be demonic.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


its not a catholic ceremony its an offer to osiris the egyptian god.

and where do you think catholic roots come from? nope nothing to see here move along sheeps.

reply to post by Scilon


What contact have you had with any masons ? Is sounds like you have personal experience with this and have been done wrong by a mason. Have you ?

Originally posted by Scilon
reply to post by network dude

 

Third time, I am asking the Masonic Community of ATS to step back from attacking me. There will not be a fourth request.

Rut Ro.
Sounds like some kind of threat to me. What say you fellow ATSers ?

Originally posted by skywalk
its not a catholic ceremony its an offer to osiris the egyptian god.

and where do you think catholic roots come from? nope nothing to see here move along sheeps.

Who cares what you call it, to Catholics the Euchrist and wine symbolize the body and blood of Chirst.

Again, since you seemed to have missed the question, what does a Catholic ceremony have to do with Masonry?

You're saying we shouldn't have gone to the moon? During the height of the cold war? Wouldn't it have demoralized America if Russia had gotten there first? Wouldn't it have tainted JFK's legacy if we hadn't tried?

Im not saying we shouldnt have gone to the moon. I'm saying why did we have to go to the moon on that specific date and time. just to they could have orion stars rising 30 mins after landing just to do that simple ritual. and the person who choose that date was a specialist in egyptian gods, the # he's working at nasa for? oh right masons are in every and almost single organisation in the world. your masonic symbols are in full details on the nasa logo even the orion stars are there.

you asked for names and stuff i gave them yet you still defend them. see your corrupted because you think your right. your defending your justice while im defending mine. But at least i know my justice isnt corrupted and im no part of any organisation, yet you are. I think i proove my point.

ps sorry for my terribad english

Ive gotta admit. I am not a mason. although, I have a few family members who are masons. one a high degree one in his area (southern california) they are actually the better half of my extended family. they have always been kind.

My best friend is a mason. His whole family is involved in the masons. He's also been a stalwart friend and I've seen him do many things simply ut of the act of kindness. he's very even tempered and has demonstrated compassion plenty of times before. he's human and goes off sometimes but in those cases it's always been understandable.

I've never gotten a bad vibe from a mason. I've been told I should look into joining by other masons. I haven't yet because I usually do my own thing. but I'm thinking of joining just due to comraderie.

I think a lot of people have the wrong idea about the masons being some evil group simply based on the fact that they're secretive.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


sorry but they were breaking bread and pouring whine in glass way before the christ came. the root of this ceremony came long before christ.

Osiris our should i spell it AUsiris since you guys like A and M and G's and AU for gold right?

reply to post by karen61057
I understand his stance and it will be similar to what im also discussing. Its clear certain groups have tried to coopt free masonry for their own purposes. Either that or Free Masonry is evil, which I dont believe to be the case.

SO because of that shouldn't we deal with the fact certain lodges have become corrupted. and in some cases certain lodges will be completely fake fronts for the New World Order.

If I had an ancient brotherhood I belonged to and someone started screwing up my planet. And claiming it was my group. I would be pissed off and attempt to rectify it.

Acting like this isn't occurring isn't helping anyone.

reply to post by Scilon


So basically you're against freedom of religion ?

Originally posted by skywalk
sorry but they were breaking bread and pouring whine in glass way before the christ came. the root of this ceremony came long before christ.

Irrelevant. Read what I said again slowly; to Catholics it represents the body and blood of Christ. Buzz Aldrin was Catholic, it was a Catholic ceremony.

Osiris our should i spell it AUsiris since you guys like A and M and G's and AU for gold right?

Actually, for those of us with taste we opt for platinum.

Originally posted by Mandrakerealmz
If i had an ancient brotherhood I belonged to and someone started screwing up my planet. And claiming it was my group. I would be pissed off and attempt to rectify it.

And what precisely would you do? It's easy to sit back and say "they should do something", but actually put some effort into that thought—what can Masonry possibly do that would separate it from those who might attempt to corrupt it? We're open to suggestions.

reply to post by JoshNorton


so you donated to charity good but its just as I said your donating your your organisation LOL...

the first one

shriners hospitals for children:

Headquartered in Tampa, Florida, the hospitals, known as "The World's Greatest Philanthropy," are owned and operated by Shriners International, formerly known as the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, a Freemasonry-related organization simply known today as the Shriners. Patients must be minors under the age of 18 and are not required to have any familial affiliation with the Shriners order nor Freemasonry.

LOL straight from wikipedia I think imma skip the 2 next because im pretty sure its the same deal.

wow huge anonymous donation. LOL

thats why I say and read everywhere that mason are evil. or are you saying there's a disinformation about all of you guys.... Damn thats sad... or its just the truth and i prefer the later.

Originally posted by skywalk
you asked for names and stuff i gave them yet you still defend them.

Uh, no you didn't. You said Buzz Aldrin. That's it—the only name you gave. And nothing about him points to corruption. So.....

Originally posted by skywalk
I'm saying why did we have to go to the moon on that specific date and time. just to they could have orion stars rising 30 mins after landing just to do that simple ritual.

You obviously did not do your homework. This was debunked already and isa known hoax.

I am going to repost what another poster on this site had in another thread:

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by 1AnunnakiBastard

 

And more nonsense, again:

....33 minutes after the touchdown, Neil Armstrong and the 33° Scottish Rite freemason, Buzz Aldrin, carried out a ritual to Osiris, while the Orion belt was aligned in the lunar horizon.

The touchdown occurred at mission elapsed time of 102:45:58:

102:45:58 Armstrong (onboard): Engine arm is off. (Pause) (Now on voice-activated comm) Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed.

From this page....the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal

Now, let'slook at what they were doing and saying 33 minutes later (@ 103:19):

103:18:47 Armstrong: Now indicating 15 psi in both tanks.
103:18:51 Duke: Roger. (Long Pause)

103:19:17 Duke: Tranquility, Houston. If you haven't done so, you can release the fuel vent switch now. Over.

103:19:25 Armstrong: Roger.

[Comm Break]
[Aldrin - (Chuckling) "You were holding the switch all that time?"]

[Armstrong - "Yes."]

103:20:52 Duke: Tranquility, Houston. We have an indication that we've frozen up the descent-fuel helium heat exchanger - and with some fuel trapped in the line between there and the valves...And the pressure we're looking at is increasing there. Over.
103:21:10 Armstrong: Roger. Understand. (Long Pause)

The next page after the one above

SO, that is strike two, for that HC "documentary".

Not looking so good, now, is it??

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by SOILDERSUNITEDFORCHRIST
so i say again was John Robinson(one of many who exposed the masons)a crazy conspirasist?
en.wikipedia.org...

You really need to do your research better. Robinson was, himself, a Mason. He was concerned with continental Masonry—namely the Grand Orient of France, which allows atheists, women, and actively takes a political stance, unlike "regular" Masonry.

that is exactly why i brought his name up, he was an insider. who wrote-
"Proofs of a Conspiracy against all the Religions and Governments of Europe, carried on in the Secret Meetings of Free-Masons, Illuminati and Reading Societies," etc., collected from good authorities, Edinburgh, 1797 ; 2nd ed.

seems like it is you first time hearing about him? no?

reply to post by Scilon


Sorry but I'm with the mason, put up or shut up. You are the accusor you have to build your case. You cannot simply say, the freemasons or even some freemasons or for that matter any freemasons are criminals without then showing proof. Because I said so is just not good enough.