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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Chemical are being sprayed into the atmosphere by NASA ATREX Rockets as said on NASA's site

Yup. And you proved it. Well, actually NASA proved it.
Or maybe this guy did.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Or this guy.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But it has nothing to do with "chemtrails". You know, those ones that people claim are geoengineering or population reduction in action. The ones that are being spraying by airplanes?

It is an interesting experiment though.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by PageAlaCearl
 


Chemical are being sprayed into the atmosphere by NASA ATREX Rockets as said on NASA's site

Yup. And you proved it. Well, actually NASA proved it.

But it has nothing to do with "chemtrails". You know, those ones that people claim are geoengineering or population reduction in action. The ones that are being spraying by airplanes?

It is an interesting experiment though.
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Chemtrail are by definition....

The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials.


en.wikipedia.org...

NASA is spraying chemicals at high altitudes, don't see the difference as the definition of chemtrails and what NASA is doing is what the definition for what a chemtrail is.


The five sounding rockets, known as the Anomalous Transport Rocket Experiment (ATREX), will launch from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia releasing a chemical tracer into the air. The chemical -- a substance called trimethyl aluminum -- forms milky, white clouds that allow those on the ground to "see" the winds in space and track them with cameras. In addition, two of the rockets will have instrumented payloads to measure pressure and temperature in the atmosphere.


www.nasa.gov...

The five sounding rockets, known as the Anomalous Transport Rocket Experiment (ATREX), will launch from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia releasing a chemical tracer into the air. - NASA
releasing a chemical tracer into the air

The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes - WIKI CHEMTRAILS
chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes

We can nit pick all day but chemicals being released into the air is what chemtrails are by definition, people can add their own definition but the real one is right there
People can say it's different but nevertheless chemicals are being released into the atmosphere purposely however you want to distort it.

NASA is deliberately releasing chemicals in the atmosphere and chemtrails are the release of chemicals into the air.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by PageAlaCearl

Chemtrail are by definition....

The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials.


en.wikipedia.org...


Are you going to redefine aircraft to include rockets?

An aircraft is a vehicle that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the atmosphere of a planet. It counters the force of gravity by using either static lift or by using the dynamic lift of an airfoil, or in a few cases the downward thrust from jet engines.[1]

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by PageAlaCearl

Chemtrail are by definition....

The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials.


en.wikipedia.org...


Are you going to redefine aircraft to include rockets?

An aircraft is a vehicle that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the atmosphere of a planet. It counters the force of gravity by using either static lift or by using the dynamic lift of an airfoil, or in a few cases the downward thrust from jet engines.[1]

en.wikipedia.org...


Wow nit picking to the extreme - does it really matter what type of craft is releasing chemicals into the air? The point is they are releasing chemicals into the air as per NASA. www.nasa.gov...

Amazing the lengths people go to pick things apart. Again not about heath, not about altitude, not about the type of craft doing the spraying of chemicals THE POINT - Chemicals are being released into the atmosphere per statement made by NASA www.nasa.gov...

And the nit picking about redefining rockets not needed...BTW - I don't need to redefine rocket as aircraft, wiki did it for me...

A rocket is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft or other vehicle which obtains thrust from a rocket engine. In all rockets, the exhaust is formed entirely from propellants carried within the rocket before use.[1] Rocket engines work by action and reaction. Rocket engines push rockets forwards simply by throwing their exhaust backwards extremely fast.


A rocket is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft

Same people to no end cracking off BS
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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Sorry??


Again not the point, they are spraying things in the air, whether healthy or not.


You found a source of a space-based project and experiment, and then say something like that?



Read your sources, again. 60 miles up. That is in SPACE....not in the atmosphere. It is so high, it will never affect anything down here on the surface.

And, people still flock to the word "chemtrail", without any comprehension. Where is the rational thinking, any more??



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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See the post above.....this bears repeating, until it sinks in maybe?:


The point is they are releasing chemicals into the air as per NASA. www.nasa.gov...


Space. At heights of 60 to 65 miles up.

It is in the very link you posted.

Read it again, and again...until it makes sense.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Ahh here he is, the famous member in every chemtrail spewing the same BS.
Go figure



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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You're the one who trotted out the definition of "chemtrails". By that very definition they are trails left by aircraft. "Chemtrails" are contrails, mistakenly believed by some to be evidence of...something.

"Chemtrails" have nothing to do with the Wallops Island tests. The ATREX experiment will use rockets at the edge of space.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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You're the one who trotted out the definition of "chemtrails". By that very definition they are trails left by aircraft. "Chemtrails" are contrails, mistakenly believed by some to be evidence of...something.

They have nothing to do with the Wallops Island tests. The ATREX experiment will use rockets at the edge of space.

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Even your BS doesn't fly

Originally posted by Phage

Are you going to redefine aircraft to include rockets?

Sure why not...

A rocket is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft or other vehicle which obtains thrust from a rocket engine. In all rockets, the exhaust is formed entirely from propellants carried within the rocket before use.[1] Rocket engines work by action and reaction. Rocket engines push rockets forwards simply by throwing their exhaust backwards extremely fast.[1]

en.wikipedia.org...

SEE THAT LITTLE PART ABOUT A ROCKET BEING AN AIRCRAFT
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Yes, there are rocket powered aircraft (the X-15 comes to mind). But not all rockets are aircraft. The rockets used in the experiment are not aircraft.


Although rockets and missiles also travel through the atmosphere, most are not considered aircraft because they do not have wings and rely on rocket thrust as the primary means of lift.

en.wikipedia.org...

What BS are you referring to?



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Yes, there are rocket powered aircraft (the X-15 comes to mind). But not all rockets are aircraft. The rockets used in the experiment are not aircraft.


Although rockets and missiles also travel through the atmosphere, most are not considered aircraft because they do not have wings and rely on rocket thrust as the primary means of lift.

en.wikipedia.org...

What BS are you referring to?



When looking for what rockets are why go to a definition of an aircraft? Why not just look at the definition of rockets? Guessing that was on purpose?


Rocket
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
This article is about vehicles powered by rocket engines. For other uses, see Rocket (disambiguation).
A Soyuz-U, at Baikonur's Site 1/5 in Kazakhstan

A rocket is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft or other vehicle which obtains thrust from a rocket engine. In all rockets, the exhaust is formed entirely from propellants carried within the rocket before use.[1] Rocket engines work by action and reaction. Rocket engines push rockets forwards simply by throwing their exhaust backwards extremely fast.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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When looking for what rockets are why go to a definition a aircraft?


The definition of "chemtrails" does not mention rockets. It says "trails left by aircraft".

When looking for what aircraft are why go to a definition of a rocket? That seems like BS.

Some aircraft are rocket powered. The rockets used in the experiment are not aircraft. And they are certainly not the same things that leave the "chemtrails" in the definition.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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When looking for what rockets are why go to a definition a aircraft?


The definition of "chemtrails" does not mention rockets. It says "trails left by aircraft".

When looking for what aircraft are why go to a definition of a rocket? That seems like BS.

Some aircraft are rocket powered. The rockets used in the experiment are not aircraft.
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and in looking at the definition of rockets you see...

Rocket
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
This article is about vehicles powered by rocket engines. For other uses, see Rocket (disambiguation).
A Soyuz-U, at Baikonur's Site 1/5 in Kazakhstan

A rocket is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft or other vehicle which obtains thrust from a rocket engine. In all rockets, the exhaust is formed entirely from propellants carried within the rocket before use.[1] Rocket engines work by action and reaction. Rocket engines push rockets forwards simply by throwing their exhaust backwards extremely fast.


Here I'll pull it out because you seem a little slow today...
A rocket is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft or other vehicle which obtains thrust from a rocket engine.
en.wikipedia.org...

The definition of chemtrail says aircraft - correct ---- the definition of rocket says - A rocket is a missile, spacecraft, aircraft - so a rocket is an aircraft - seeing it yet?



Originally posted by Phage
"When looking for what aircraft are why go to a definition of a rocket? That seems like BS."

-ummm because the WHOLE post is about rockets NASA is sending to release chemicals in the atmosphere
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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Yes. I saw that. I agree that a rocket powered aircraft can be considered a rocket. It can also be considered an aircraft. But the ATREX experiment is not using rocket powered aircraft. It is using sounding rockets. They are not aircraft because (contrary to the definition of aircraft) they obtain lift only by the use of rocket produced thrust.

Sounding rockets are commonly used to carry instruments that take readings from 50 kilometres (31 mi) to 1,500 kilometres (930 mi) above the surface of the Earth, the altitudes between those reachable by weather balloons and satellites.[81]

en.wikipedia.org...
This is one of the rockets which will be used.


The X-15 would fall under the aircraft category. Because its source of lift was its wings.


The ATREX experiment will use sounding rockets (not aircraft) to distribute chemicals at the edge of space. That does not fit the definition of "chemtrails" which you provided.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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The sure sign of someone losing an argument. Change the subject....quick.
I'm not the subject but I post on a number of topics.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
Well at the least this thread can be a testament to the amount of disinfo trolls on ATS that will stop at nothing even when faced with the truth time and time again.

Chemtrail and 9/11 forums really easy to find em'

Perfect example, 800 9/11 posts and no other posts, 9/11 disinfo troll
www.abovetopsecret.com...

ah look who it is on the other chemtrail thread go figure...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
They are pretty easy to find...and soo adamant
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
It never ends, I hope you guys are getting paid well.

ATS Deny Ignorance - right
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"Disinfo" rapidly becoming the most overused term on ATS. Disinfo = you don't agree with what I say, so you must be one of "them". Look out "false flag", your days as the number one over used term are coming to an end!

I suppose you are going to post a similar thread every time they give notice of cloud seeding as well?



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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The sure sign of someone losing an argument. Change the subject....quick.
I'm not the subject but I post on a number of topics.


Yea Charlie your definitely 'WINNING'

-didn't know we were winning or losing here but I guess another testament to disinfo trolls, if your goal is to win and not discuss things here on ATS you are a troll.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy

Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
Well at the least this thread can be a testament to the amount of disinfo trolls on ATS that will stop at nothing even when faced with the truth time and time again.

Chemtrail and 9/11 forums really easy to find em'

Perfect example, 800 9/11 posts and no other posts, 9/11 disinfo troll
www.abovetopsecret.com...

ah look who it is on the other chemtrail thread go figure...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
They are pretty easy to find...and soo adamant
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...
It never ends, I hope you guys are getting paid well.

ATS Deny Ignorance - right
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"Disinfo" rapidly becoming the most overused term on ATS. Disinfo = you don't agree with what I say, so you must be one of "them". Look out "false flag", your days as the number one over used term are coming to an end!

I suppose you are going to post a similar thread every time they give notice of cloud seeding as well?


I see disinfo as people that tell lies to keep people from learning the truths. Every one has there say to each their own, so don't believe it, that's your choice but you keep coming back to tell different, why do that if you are set in your mind that chemtrails are not real. Ok, you think there not real, move on but you don't.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Oh.
I thought we were arguing about the definition of aircraft and "chemtrails". I guess I just misunderstood what was going on.





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