New Footage 9/11 Second Tower Explosion Incredibly Clear Video From Helicopter - Where Is The Plane?

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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 06:11 AM
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Care to show everyone where this shadow is you claim its goes around the tower?

Why is the west an impossible direction for a plane?




posted on May, 21 2012 @ 08:53 AM
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Wow. Your ignorance is stunning to me. Really.

Ok, so if there was no airplane/s then please explain how they managed to punch plane sized holes with plane sized wingspans into the WTCs, having aircraft parts strewn all over the plane outside including engines and sections of the fuselage, and also explain how MILLIONS of eyes in NYC and DC witnessed PLANES impacting the WTC?



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Really? This is still being debated. I thought this was why John Lear stopped posting on here about holograms and such. 1000's of people saw PLANES hit the towers.


All of you should read the book 102 minutes. It makes 9/11 personal.

Here is an excerpt...



From a window on the 61st floor in the north tower, Ezra Aviles had seen everything. He knew it was no bomb. His window faced north, and he saw the plane tearing through the skies, heading straight for the tower. It had crashed into the building over his head—how far, he was not sure. In fact, its lower wing cut the ceiling of the 93rd floor, and its right wing had ripped across the 98th floor, at the very moment that Patricia Massari was speaking to her husband about her home pregnancy test.


then




We're going out onto the plaza to let you know what's going on," Reiss told the desk. He and Paugh walked down the hallway from the plaza, past an airline ticket counter. A revolving door put them under a soffit, an overhang sheltering the entrance to 5 World Trade Center. They peered out. Debris had rained onto the plaza—steel and concrete and fragments of offices and glass. Above them, they could see the east side of the north tower, and also its northern face. Instead of the waffle gridding of the building's face, they now saw a wall of fire spread across ten or fifteen floors. Then they saw the people coming out the windows, driven toward air, and into air. The plane had struck not two minutes earlier.

On the ground, they saw an odd shape. Reiss looked closer. It was the nose gear of an airplane, missing the rubber tire, but with its wheel still connected to the hydraulic elbow that retracts into the bottom of the plane. Paugh began to take notes on its shape and location. Reiss protested. "There's crap falling on us," he said. "I don't have a hard hat on or anything, let's just drag it in."

He and Paugh lugged the part into the police office. "It's evidence, put a sticker on it," Reiss said.

"A plane hit the building," Paugh said.

"It's a big plane," Reiss added. "It's not a Piper Cub. This is a bi-i-i-g #ing wheel."


So are these guys lying?????



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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You don't have a scintilla of sustainable evidence that a plane was not recorded on 911. You cannot disprove a positive. You can debate against video proof that confirms a plane hit the towers but it was there. You aren't mad, but fiendish in your blind support for a conspiracy with no evidence. The idea that funded arabs who could not attack america is laughable in your eyes by only looking at the live broadcasts of videos you choose. It was a horrible incident 10 years ago, but now is still a running joke with what, .0001% of the population contributing to the truther movement. You have always been a minority, and completely insignificant when people start acknowledging real world physics and the evil that is prevented in this world each day.

It is nice you can use a dictionary. It helps more if you can put multiple words together and make sense.



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by cultureoftruth
 


Wow. Your ignorance is stunning to me. Really.

Ok, so if there was no airplane/s then please explain how they managed to punch plane sized holes with plane sized wingspans into the WTCs, having aircraft parts strewn all over the plane outside including engines and sections of the fuselage, and also explain how MILLIONS of eyes in NYC and DC witnessed PLANES impacting the WTC?





posted on May, 23 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY, when was that video made? they didn't have the technology when 9/11 happened, also how do you explain all the still pictures and videos taken by people around New York?



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:52 AM
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In reply to cultureoftruth

Reality left the 'Truthers' quite some time ago as your posts and theories show. All these photographers are simply dismissed. Correct?

www.911conspiracy.tv...

Jane Barrer 5:52 and 11:23

www.liveleak.com...
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edit on 23-5-2012 by tommyjo because: Malformed link corrected



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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You do realize that the screen of the video link shows the plane exiting the building?
classic...



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by cultureoftruth
 


Care to show everyone where this shadow is you claim its goes around the tower?

Why is the west an impossible direction for a plane?


Because if it didn't turn right and left across the rear of tower 2 it would've crashed into the west side, not southeast corner. According to the government it did not pass east of tower 1 in the final seconds, therefore, could not have left its shadow. These two news anchors initially said there was no plane in the area until a witness pointed out the orb and thought it might be a chopper. They acknowledge in this clip that it went in between the towers clearly leaving its shadow.

www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by cultureoftruth
 


You don't have a scintilla of sustainable evidence that a plane was not recorded on 911. You cannot disprove a positive. You can debate against video proof that confirms a plane hit the towers but it was there. You aren't mad, but fiendish in your blind support for a conspiracy with no evidence. The idea that funded arabs who could not attack america is laughable in your eyes by only looking at the live broadcasts of videos you choose. It was a horrible incident 10 years ago, but now is still a running joke with what, .0001% of the population contributing to the truther movement. You have always been a minority, and completely insignificant when people start acknowledging real world physics and the evil that is prevented in this world each day.

It is nice you can use a dictionary. It helps more if you can put multiple words together and make sense.


You don't have a scintilla of sustainable evidence that a plane was recorded on 911. You cannot prove a negative, only believe in video fiction. You can't debate against video proof that confirms black and grey blobs hit the towers that in no way depict real boeings. You aren't mad, but fiendish in your blind support for complete nonsense. The idea that funded arabs attacked america is laughable, period, end of story. It was a horrible incident 10 years ago, but now is a running joke with what, .0001% of the population whose seen the live broadcasts that show an orb. You have always been a minority, and completely insignificant when people start acknowledging real world physics and the evil that will not go unnoticed by government and media.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

No overdubs...no editing...just what happened that day...No planes is honestly and simply the most pathetic argument there is.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by cultureoftruth

You don't have a scintilla of sustainable evidence that a plane was recorded on 911. You cannot prove a negative, only believe in video fiction. You can't debate against video proof that confirms black and grey blobs hit the towers that in no way depict real boeings. You aren't mad, but fiendish in your blind support for complete nonsense. The idea that funded arabs attacked america is laughable, period, end of story. It was a horrible incident 10 years ago, but now is a running joke with what, .0001% of the population whose seen the live broadcasts that show an orb. You have always been a minority, and completely insignificant when people start acknowledging real world physics and the evil that will not go unnoticed by government and media.



WHY DONT YOU PROVE HOW THIS VIDEO FICTION WAS DONE THEN !!!

Show everyone how it was done put up or shut up!



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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Or....60 pages in..a simple "the building was hiding the oncoming plane" should have closed this entire thread. Seriously. In the ensuing pages the same arguments from new people to the site prompted by those who are already promoting it causes a forum where nothing new is created or discussed. It all ends in one of two ways with these threads...

either


"YOU DON"T AND CAN"T PROVE THE PHYSICS OF 9/11!!!!!" or the thread goes silent and two more pop up created by one of the new backers who got a few stars in their first few posts.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by esdad71
Really? This is still being debated. I thought this was why John Lear stopped posting on here about holograms and such. 1000's of people saw PLANES hit the towers.


All of you should read the book 102 minutes. It makes 9/11 personal.

Here is an excerpt...



From a window on the 61st floor in the north tower, Ezra Aviles had seen everything. He knew it was no bomb. His window faced north, and he saw the plane tearing through the skies, heading straight for the tower. It had crashed into the building over his head—how far, he was not sure. In fact, its lower wing cut the ceiling of the 93rd floor, and its right wing had ripped across the 98th floor, at the very moment that Patricia Massari was speaking to her husband about her home pregnancy test.


then




We're going out onto the plaza to let you know what's going on," Reiss told the desk. He and Paugh walked down the hallway from the plaza, past an airline ticket counter. A revolving door put them under a soffit, an overhang sheltering the entrance to 5 World Trade Center. They peered out. Debris had rained onto the plaza—steel and concrete and fragments of offices and glass. Above them, they could see the east side of the north tower, and also its northern face. Instead of the waffle gridding of the building's face, they now saw a wall of fire spread across ten or fifteen floors. Then they saw the people coming out the windows, driven toward air, and into air. The plane had struck not two minutes earlier.

On the ground, they saw an odd shape. Reiss looked closer. It was the nose gear of an airplane, missing the rubber tire, but with its wheel still connected to the hydraulic elbow that retracts into the bottom of the plane. Paugh began to take notes on its shape and location. Reiss protested. "There's crap falling on us," he said. "I don't have a hard hat on or anything, let's just drag it in."

He and Paugh lugged the part into the police office. "It's evidence, put a sticker on it," Reiss said.

"A plane hit the building," Paugh said.

"It's a big plane," Reiss added. "It's not a Piper Cub. This is a bi-i-i-g #ing wheel."


So are these guys lying?????


It doesn't matter. Any witness who described something circling around and saw something smaller than a passenger jet supports the orb that circled around. That is the point here. The orb passed east of tower 1 in the final seconds before explosion, which could not have been any type of plane, small or large.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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oh...you mean the video of superman...yeah, he got there to late...



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by esdad71
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You do realize that the screen of the video link shows the plane exiting the building?
classic...


Sure, a CGI plane!



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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I see the original OP video has been removed after such a short time! this is quite a regular occurrence with 9/11 videos! Can someone re-post the OP video?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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Found it...



The woman's reactions are fake, and how could she not tell which building was hit, she had one of the best views!
'apparently that is coming from the other building'!!! Odd behaviour, but then everything surrounding 9/11 is very odd.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by 4hero
Found it...



The woman's reactions are fake, and how could she not tell which building was hit, she had one of the best views!
'apparently that is coming from the other building'!!! Odd behaviour, but then everything surrounding 9/11 is very odd.


So you know exactly what that women was doing at the time and how she felt did you use your SUPER POWERS to do that



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Here's what makes someone a "tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist."

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing, kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that box-cutter-toting terrorists from Saudi Arabia successfully hijacked 4 planes, dodged the most advanced security system the world has ever seen and crashed two of those planes into 2 buildings thereby bringing 3 buildings down in free-fall demolition fashion leaving us no other choice than a full-scale military invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq and the subsequent awarding of lucrative oil contracts to U.S. oil corporations.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing, kooky conspiracy theorist becaust you don't believe that massive, steal-framed buildings catch fire and quickly collapse within 90 minutes in free-fall demolition fashion.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that a terrorist-hijacked plane crashed in Pennsylvania while leaving no trace of a plane crash. There's no plane, no dead people, nothing. But trust me. It happens all the time.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that a plane that was too big to fit through the tiny hole in the Pentagon, fit through that hole without leaving any plane debris on the outside of the hole. Somehow a plane that was several times the size of that hole squeezed through that hole, massive wingspan and tailspan included. Only a great magician can explain that little feat. But trust me. It happens all the time. For the third time on 9-11 a plane disappeared into a building, its wreckage and passengers never to be seen again.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that the Bush administration's attempting to deny any official investigation into 9-11 -- and later their attempt to appoint the long-time criminal conspirator Henry Kissinger to lead such a panel of investigation, is the least bit suggestive of a cover-up.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that Osama bin Laden is guilty of 9-11 simply because the trusted, truth-teller G.W. Bush said so, and as we all know Bush would never lie to us.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that we should attack and invade Afghanistan and Iraq even though the supposed hijackers all came from Saudi Arabia -- whom we love.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction as Bush declared and that Saddam was attempting to get a nuclear bomb to attack the world just as Cheney and Rice declared. Of course, the real evidence proved that wasn't true at all, but our President would never lie to us. Well, I mean, unless he's lying about a blow job. Then it's a conspiracy, by God!

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing, kooky, conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that America's wealthy elite would ever attempt to instigate "a new Pearl Harbor" -- just as they described in their bible, The Project for a New American Century -- in order to manufacture consent among the American people for imperialist war in the Middle East. The wealthy-elite love us and they would never lie to us and commit conspiracies such as the Gulf of Tonkin lie, Cointelpro, the Tuskegee Experiment, MK-Ultra,Iran/Contra, The Kennedy assassination, the Kennedy assassination cover-up and so on.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing, kooky conspiracy theorist because you don't believe that the neocons would have stolen the 2000 election in order to promote their agenda of global hegemony as stated in the Project for a New American Century. They only stole the election because they like good government and they love the Constitution. Forget that little incident where G.W. Bush stated, "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It's just a God-damn piece of piece of paper." Forget the fact that the Bush presidency was one big, relentless attack on the Bill of Rights. Forget the fact that the Bush regime was one big lootfest. Bush, Cheney and the gang had nothing to do with any of that.

You're a tin-foil-hat-wearing kooky conspiracy theorist because you fail to believe every word the U.S. ruling-class tells you about how 9/11 was simply a magical, bin Laden terrorist show and regardless of the overwhelming and obvious evidence to the contrary.





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