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I'm wondering how you know this for sure? How could these people who I assume did not work for these airlines get flight load information?
Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by burntheships
CNN: 'No evidence of a plane crashing anywhere near the Pentagon'
Piece of wreckage WAY to small for Boeing 757
But it fits THIS and so does the landing gear and the engine... the SINGLE engine found...
Engine rotor at Pentagon
A REAL 757 engine...
Global Hawk engine....
Single hole at Pentagon
Boeing 757's do not just vaporize with no bodies, no luggage no debris and no hole that fits a plane...
edit on 15-3-2012 by zorgon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ProudBird
SIGH.....@2:15...upper right corner.
THAT is United 175.
Watch it again.
Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe who have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day based on solid data and facts -- since 9/11/2001 is the catalyst for many of the events shaping our world today -- and the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers or facts.
We stand with the numerous other growing organizations of Firefighters, Medical Professionals, Lawyers, Scholars, Military Officers, Veterans, Religious and Political Leaders, along side Survivors, family members of the victims -- family members of soldiers who have made the ultimate sacrifice -- including the many Ground Zero workers who are now ill or have passed away, when we ask for a true, new independent investigation into the events of 9/11. We do not accept the 9/11 Commission Report and/or "hypothesis" as a satisfactory explanation for the sacrifice every American has made and continues to make -- some more than others.
Originally posted by Caidema
A lot of people even refuse to look at the evidence, my entire family are pro-Bush.
Both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush were powerful FINANCIAL SUPPORTERS of Adolf Hitler!
Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by Drunkenparrot
So scale it down. Try throwing...oh say an oil drum full of petrol (gasoline/kerosene) at a steel reinforced brick wall as hard as you can, while igniting the fuel and see what the effects are. Scale it down even further if you will. A cola can full of same fuel at a brick....who comes off worse? Hell if you wanna get freaky, try a block of ice on a steel plate like the Titanic was made from. Get my drift? Fake, fake, fake...edit on 14/3/12 by LightSpeedDriver because: Typoedit on 14/3/12 by LightSpeedDriver because: Typos again...
You cant scale material analysis down, it doesn't work that way (which is a very basic rule).
The math does not lie....
using 35,000 lbs/15875 kg and 250mph/111 meter/second equals 1,762,125 newton's of force.
250,000lbs/113,398kg and 500mph/223 meter/second gives you 25,287,754 newton's.
Get my drift?
I have also worked through Zdenfk Bažant's collapse mechanism that the OS is partly based on and find it to be in perfect agreement with the facts as opposed to baseless supposition.
Mechanics of Progressive Collapse: Learning from World Trade Center and Building Demolitions
Bin Laden WAS NOT buried at sea, but flown to the U.S. for cremation at secret location, claims intelligence boss in leaked email
Emails purported to be obtained by hacker group Anonymous dispute White House version of terror leader's final resting place
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by bjarneorn
Who said the plane "vapourised" ? Only truthers.
Plenty of pics of aircraft wreckage in the Pentagon :-
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by zorgon
You post stuff like this and then wonder why truthers get no where.
Did you photoshop the image of the Global Hawk?
Here is the link to the origional picture.
Are you a paid shill from ae911?edit on 15-3-2012 by samkent because: (no reason given)
Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story
Only 16% now believe official fable according to New York Times/CBS News poll
Truth Movement has the huge majority of opinion
How will the Bush Cabal react?
You probably won't hear about the key differences between the alleged hijackers and the individuals who came forward after 9/11, either. The pilot Waleed al-Shehri who came forward after 9/11 has a different name to the hijacker, for instance. The Salem al-Hazmi who appeared in the press post the attacks is 26, the hijacker was 21.
We’ve carried the full report, executive summary and main findings and, as part of the recent fifth anniversary coverage, a detailed guide to what’s known about what happened on the day. But conspiracy theories have persisted. The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names.
In an effort to make this clearer, we have made one small change to the original story. Under the FBI picture of Waleed al Shehri we have added the words "A man called Waleed Al Shehri..." to make it as clear as possible that there was confusion over the identity. The rest of the story remains as it was in the archive as a record of the situation at the time.
We recently asked the FBI for a statement, and this is, as things stand, the closest thing we have to a definitive view: The FBI is confident that it has positively identified the nineteen hijackers responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Also, the 9/11 investigation was thoroughly reviewed by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and the House and Senate Joint Inquiry. Neither of these reviews ever raised the issue of doubt about the identity of the nineteen hijackers.
..Saudi Arabia acknowledged for the first time that 15 of the Sept. 11 suicide hijackers were Saudi citizens...
Previously, Saudi Arabia had said the citizenship of 15 of the 19 hijackers was in doubt despite U.S. insistence they were Saudis. But Interior Minister Prince Nayef told The Associated Press that Saudi leaders were shocked to learn 15 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
"The names that we got confirmed that," Nayef said in an interview. "Their families have been notified."