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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by aardvark888
reply to post by SaturnFX
 


Oh Yes! Evolution is obviously the best explanation for the world we live in. Nothing exploded, then out of a slimey pool on planet earth, every living creature evolved! Oh YES! I'll stake my eternity on that, sound solid!


Glad your on board.

incidently

What would a deity want, someone whom was curious about the environment it was put in, or a mindless drone that would never think to even contemplate its surroundings?

Consider your answer, then consider the deity you follow.

If God requires us to be mindless idiots that refuse to acknowledge evidence, he clearly screwed up his design of the human brain. Why would I want to spend an eternity with a imperfect creator whom thinks too highly of itself?




posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Sorry but MAN created god(s) and the evidence is all over this planet!!! If your super being was so great why wasn't all of mankind told at the same time about him


Why do we have other god(s) all over the planet, why have they all got creation stories with no two exactly the same
They cant ALL be right BUT they can ALL BE WRONG!
Here is a list of just some of the god(s).

www.lowchensaustralia.com...

The bible is a good story book nothing more nothing less they should make a film about it


gods were created to explain things that at that time men did not undestand thats why we have

Sun,Moon,Rain,Thunder etc etc gods to give a reason to why certain things happened or could be seen.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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By NO means will I do it - you have Google - go and research it yourself. I have been studying the Bible for thirty years. Now you go and do some.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by aardvark888
reply to post by Garfee
 


Hundreds of fulfilled prophecies.

Done and done.


NONE AND NONE more like!!!!



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

I'm not sold on that. Maybe the New Testament .... but the Old Testament is a mess. If that's God's best work .. then our God may not have done very well in Diety School. Sorry, but the bible was put together by MEN. You can find some wonderful inspiration in the bible .. but also a pile of poo.






Thank you sir.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Have to dispute you here.

In early times, the prevailing Hebrew word for Lord was Adon, whereas the apparent personal name of Jehovah was not used at all. It came from the original Hebrew stem YHWH (Yahweh), which meant 'I am that I am - a statement said to have been made by God to Moses on Mount Sinai hundreds of years after the time of Abraham. However, the Bible also makes it clear that the God of Abraham was actually called El Shaddai, which means Lofty Mountain.

Jehovah was, therefore, not a name at all. The early texts refer simply to El Shaddai and to his opposing counterpart Adon. The Canaanites called these gods El Elyon and Baal, meaning precisely the same things: Lofty Mountain and Lord. In modern Bibles, the definitions God and Lord are used and intermixed throughout as if they referred to the same Jehovah character, but originally they did not. One was a vengeful god (a people suppressor), and the other was a social god (a people supporter). Additionally, in contrast to Bible teachings, the various traditions relate that these gods both had parents, wives, sons and daughters.

Throughout the patriarchal era, the emergent Hebrews endeavoured to support Adon the Lord but, at every turn, El Shaddai (the storm god Jehovah) retaliated with floods, tempests, famines and general destruction. Even at the time of the Captivity (around 586 BC), the Bible explains that Jerusalem was overthrown at Jehovah's bidding. Tens of thousands of Israelites were then taken hostage into Babylon simply because one of their past kings (a descendant of King David) had erected altars in veneration of Baal the Adon.

It was during the course of this Captivity that the Israelites finally conceded. They decided, after generations of Adon support, to succumb to the opposing god of wrath, developing a new religion out of sheer fear of his retribution. It was, in fact, at this time that the apparent name of Jehovah first appeared - little more than 500 years before the time of Jesus. Subsequently, the Christian Church took Jehovah on board as well, calling him simply God, and all the hitherto social concepts of Adon were totally discarded. The two religions were henceforth both faiths of fear, and even today their followers are classified as 'God fearing'.
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El and Yahweh are distinct Gods from each other, as distinct as their individual names. Yahweh was worshipped as a war god from the deserts of southern Palestine who migrated north to Judah while El was the god of Israel whose home was Mesopotamia.
The Hebrew Name of God - El
The word El comes from a root word meaning "might, strength, power" and probably derives from the Ugaritic term for "God."



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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welcome to Ats. where the bible believers are ridiculed , hated, censored,and despised.
some people even say Islam is a more peaceful religion. some are so ignorant as to say Jesus never existed

most have been brainwashed threw the school system to believe a theory Charles darwin did not fully believe himself.

buckle up is gonna be a good ride.---another thing people here are highly taught by david ike and texxe marrs to believe "reptilians" are at the top of the pyramid
.,and to hate the Jewish state of Israel and to blame everything on the "Zionist"while the real elite get no attention.

everything you said is on point. but as Christians some times we shall do as Jesus said and not throw our pearls(Christs teachings) at swine or pigs (yea this is how Jesus referred to you brainwashed people)--

we are not here to convert the world, some times we should keep our treasures to ourselves.
God bless you brother.

as for proof the bible is the inerrant word of GOD and from outside our time domain...........




posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by aardvark888
I have been studying the Bible for thirty years. Now you go and do some.


I have been studying the lord of the rings for almost as long.

There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power.
-Gandalf 8:24


What this says is the Lord is actually absorbing energy, not sharing it. Why would you then give power to the lord for the purpose of making him alone strong and you absorbed into oblivion?


(wait...why is my fiction less relevant than yours?)



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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He doesn't require us to be mindless idiots as you so eloquently say, we are all given a choice. That choice is to accept God or to not accept God. We are the way we are today because we have a broken relationship with God because of the original sin. You can accept God and still be a scientist, just like you can reject God and still be a scientist. Being a christian doesn't hinder you at all, in fact it creates a drive to understand how exactly did God create everything.

Take genesis for example it says God spoke light into existence, well we don't know how exactly that looks like. To explain that better we have the Big Bang theory. A massive explosion of matter, God spoke light into existence. To me it fits but thats just me.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by SOILDERSUNITEDFORCHRIST
welcome to Ats. where the bible believers are ridiculed , hated, censored,and despised.

At least in their mind.





posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Bahahaha... now thats funny!!




posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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wow the deludedness of the OP is amazing. Just a bunch of rants about ones personal subjective opinions. nothing more.

Really, nothing to see here. moving on.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by aardvark888
reply to post by autowrench
 


Congratulations! IYou've written hundreds of words in posts on this topic now, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is incorrect in some way! Astonishing.

Also, who are you to warn someone to follow the T&C's.

I am a long time member, and have seen many new members get post banned, and lose posing privileges because they did not read the T&C, and I too am guilty of this. Hundreds of words does me no honor. I have written thousands of words trying to educate brainwashed and mind controlled Religious Types who haunt these conspiracy forums attempting to convert everyone in there to their particular brand of Christianity. You say I am incorrect. So be it, Can you prove me incorrect? Because I do not think you can.
Care to have a Religious Theology discussion with me? Say the word, friend. I am bored, and in need of some stimulation conversation.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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ok... people aren't necessarily ignorant if they do not believe the bible as it is today to be god's work. don't get me wrong, i respect the bible. i also respect the talmud, torah, and koran and ,yes, even the books of mormon. throw in there the bagavad gita and a few other choice books and i think we can come up with a well-rounded belief system. my point is really that the bible today has been altered beyond recognition and certain books that are very important were excluded from the canon. a lot of testaments of jesus have been altered and left out, leaving in books that contradict jesus' sayings and teachings. we cannot follow a literal translation of a book that has been altered so much we don't even know what the original version said. we need only to honor the main ideas. love thy neighbor AND thy enemy. how you treat the least among you is how you will be judged, so on and so forth. but to state people are being ignorant for not believing the same thing you believe, is ... well... ignorant.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Vsc1981
If these words are words of pagan stories then you are living in a farie tale. I'm not here to change anyones mind nor am trying to judge. Because i keep God's word doesn't make me stupid or dumb. And your going to try and tell me that the Israel of today isn't the Israel that God gave to his chosen people is a ridiculous statement. Jerusalem is in Israel and Jerusalem is in the bible. If you don't take my word then read the bible. All of you thats calling me crazy and stupid read the bible. I challenge to read it. Front to back. You can't say you know the bible is fake or false or pagan stories if you haven't read it. Just read The Revelation Of Jesus Christ. Come on read it. Don't talk down on somebody cause they believe in the bible. Thats whats wrong with our country and the world today.


Once long long ago my parents told me a story of a super being who in one night could visit all the children on earth and leave them all gifts, I was young but my parents told me the story so why would they lie to me their son


Well eventually I found out that Santa didn't exist or the tooth fairy or the easter bunny or the bogyman and also god! nice stories but just stories.

Now if you did as an experiment get a male child at an early age tell him and everyone that speaks to him to tell he is the son of god he would think he was, thats basically what the church does to its congregation get them at an early age and prolong the brainwashing as long as possible, some of us see that at a very early age and get out some dont!

It's all stories and similar stories appear all around the world with all the different god(s) MAN created!!!



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by aardvark888
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The plurality of the language (let "us") in Genesis refers to The Son and the Holy Spirit.

As for all those other gods you listed - they are all false Gods. I don't think there is anyone who can't identify who the real God of the Bible is!

What's you're problem?

Care to define who and what the "Holy Spirit" is? For me is the Goddess Sophia, Goddess of Wisdom, and Queen of Heaven. Don't you know that three part God Head came directly from the Egyptian Osiris, Isis, and Horus? Sophia Dwells within everyone who seeks wisdom, friend.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Vsc1981
I'm new to ATS and so far I've enjoyed it. The motto for ATS is deny ignorance and I recently came across some ignorance from some people on ATS. You see the bible is God's work. We all know that. Its what He had people of His choosing to write so it could be preached and taught to the whole world so that His most loved creation could learn of Him and worship Him. So they could know of His commandments and follow them. And also to prepare for the second coming of Jesus. To warn of impending disasters to befall man and destroy His creation earth. He wants us to love and obey Him, and to fear Him. Not to worship false gods or prophets. To believe in only Him and only His word. Now these people that i mentioned seem to think that there is these other books that would have God contradicting Himself. Saying things like Jews aren't God's chosen people and He didn't give the land of Israel to the Jews. So i guess I'm just looking for some support on these issues.




No...no we do not all know that,. Nobody knows that. Some people believe it, but nobody knows.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by denynothing
reply to post by SaturnFX
 


He doesn't require us to be mindless idiots as you so eloquently say, we are all given a choice.

Why did Adam/Eve get tossed from the garden?
Explain what went down...

Now explain why the rule was there to begin with, where god did indeed want a bunch of worshipping idiots.

What happened to the tower of babel? What was the fear of God that made him tear it down?

Explain to me why God fears man having knowledge.

He does require us to be mindless idiots.


a broken relationship with God because of the original sin.


The sins of my father before I was born are -not- mine to burden myself with, period.
Any deity wanting to blame me for stuff that happened before my birth does not deserve my worship, or even respect.

I see the imperfect tiny deity you adhere to and see nothing but darkness. The biblical religion (all forms, from judism, to christianity and islam) is false in my opinion...however, I could be swayed into believing it was meddling aliens or (if such a thing) demonic by nature...but more than likely just a lot of cavemen writing up crap whenever they thought of it.

Incidently, congrats on your religious adherance not to christ, or moses, but of Saint Augustine.

Saint Augustine (354-430) was the first theologian to teach that man is born into this world in a state of sin. The basis of his belief is from the Bible (Genesis 3:17-19) where Adam is described as having disobeyed G-d by eating the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden. This, the first sin of man, became known as original sin.

Many Christians today, particularly members of the Anglican, Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, and Presbyterian Churches, subscribe to this belief. They maintain that the sin of Adam was transferred to all future generations, tainting even the unborn. Substantiation for this view is found in the New Testament (Romans 5:12) where Paul says, "Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. By one man's disobediance many were made sinners."

Christianity believes that only through the acceptance of Jesus that the "grace" of G-d can return to man. A Christian need only believe in Jesus to be saved; nothing else is required of her.

The doctrine of original sin is totally unacceptable to Jews (as it is to Christian sects such as Baptists and Assemblies of G-d). Jews believe that man enters the world free of sin, with a soul that is pure and innocent and untainted. While there were some Jewish teachers in Talmudic times who believed that death was a punishment brought upon mankind on account of Adam's sin, the dominant view by far was that man sins because he is not a perfect being, and not, as Christianity teaches, because he is inherently sinful.

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Incidently, I am an agnostic-atheist spiritualist



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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yeah, I do belive in God and accept Jesus, but I don't buy into this "fear" nonsense- really, think about it, an all knowing omnipresent being creates humans so they fear him, that sounds like something a pretty disturbed mad human scientist would do, not a loving God



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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on the word yaw
you can still see the modern use of that term in the expression
"yaw pitch and roll" and of course the word way

yaw

"to fall away from the line of a course," 1540s, from O.N. jaga, O.Dan. jæge "to drive, chase," from M.L.G. jagen (see yacht).

www.etymonline.com...

way

O.E. weg "road, path, course of travel," from P.Gmc. *wegaz (cf. O.S., Du. weg, O.N. vegr, O.Fris. wei, O.H.G. weg, Ger. Weg, Goth. wigs "way"), from PIE *wegh- "to move" (see weigh). Most of the extended senses developed in M.E. Adverbial meaning "very, extremely" is by 1986, perhaps from phrase all the way. Ways and means "resources at a person's disposal" is attested from early 15c. Way-out (adj.) "original, bold," is jazz slang, first recorded 1940s. Encouragement phrase way to go is short for that's the way to go.

www.etymonline.com...
www.etymonline.com...

it is also interesting to note that one of the only complete anagrams of the words Jesus christ is
rich jests us

them luciferian bankers certainly do.
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