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Originally posted by arpgme
The only time that exists is now, the past and the future don't exist, they are just imagery in the mind. Even evidence and artifacts exist NOW and we can only speculate about how old they are and what theory it supports, therefore, you can believe whatever you want about any past event since it doesn't matter. The past is erased and the only thing that exists is now, so why not just believe whatever you want.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Blarneystoner
Again:
The only thing that exists is now. The rest is just imagery and speculation of the mind. Science is systematic, it ONLY studies the past and makes predictions about the future. It can't study the now. Once it gathers data it becomes the PAST, things are always changing and yet they are never, because only now exists.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Blarneystoner
Don't take anyones word for it, investigate it yourself. Don't believe, find out, have a closer look.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Blarneystoner
I'm not here to change everyone's opinions because I know some people are deeply trapped in their belief systems....
Science is systematic, once it collects data it becomes PAST not NOW, it can also predict the FUTURE which is also just imagery in the mind. Only now is actual.
edit on 13-3-2012 by arpgme because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
Damn this place has really taken a turn for the worse. Someone starts a post basically saying; "This is what I know" and provides no evidence, no experimental data, no theory, no nothing except their word. And everyone just jumps right in saying oh "I agree! Because it sounds right to me!" and if anyone has the balls to say; "well I don't think you're right and here's why" providing links to: experimental data. theories, and evidence from well respected persons of various disciplines and the only response is to say something like "look into it yourself"
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
Your little spiel about science makes no damn sense at all. Have you considered that the difference between your beliefs and science is something called "PEER-REVIEWED OBJECTIVITY?" It's a facet of the scientific method which made the invention of the computer you're typing on possible.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Blarneystoner
I am not talking about information provided, i am saying look for yourself.
Is it ever not now in your experience?
Originally posted by arpgme
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
Damn this place has really taken a turn for the worse. Someone starts a post basically saying; "This is what I know" and provides no evidence, no experimental data, no theory, no nothing except their word. And everyone just jumps right in saying oh "I agree! Because it sounds right to me!" and if anyone has the balls to say; "well I don't think you're right and here's why" providing links to: experimental data. theories, and evidence from well respected persons of various disciplines and the only response is to say something like "look into it yourself"
Evidence and experimental data are data of the PAST, but the past no longer exists, only now exists. This is not opinion this is fact. I'm not saying "look into it yourself" because there is nothing to look into, it is self evident. You KNOW that you exist NOW and you KNOW that you can only see the past and the future in your MIND, it is imagery, illusion. Only NOW is real. Pictures, Data, Evidence are things that REFER to the PAST, not this present MOMENT.
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
Your little spiel about science makes no damn sense at all. Have you considered that the difference between your beliefs and science is something called "PEER-REVIEWED OBJECTIVITY?" It's a facet of the scientific method which made the invention of the computer you're typing on possible.
You are using science in order to prove science. That's a circular argument. The only time that exists is now, date and evidence are things that exist NOW but they don't refer to NOW they refer to the PAST when the data was collected. Once the data is collected it is not happening now, it is past...
edit on 13-3-2012 by arpgme because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
reply to post by arpgme
Sometimes arpgme I feel there are creations that really feel this way due to them not being able to process the past and future. It gets confusing though when you think about the past like 10 minutes before I posted this comment was that not now and REALITY and not imagined even though its in the past over 10 minutes ago and can be recorded??? If there are creations who think this way maybe they are being blocked intentionally by some hidden force to prevent their wills from seeking out their past or considering their future. Also the future I am thinking what I am going to type NOW but my thoughts for the next word are in the future is that not REALITY or considered imaginary also? So I dont know how this can not be proof of time existing beyond now and before now outside of NOW.
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Blarneystoner
I am not talking about information provided, i am saying look for yourself.
Is it ever not now in your experience?
The short answer is "yes, it is NEVER 'now' in my experience." By the time my brain processes and filters thousands of bits of information from various stimuli, NOW has already passed!!! So, essentially we are all living in the past, because "now" has already passed by the time a brain can actually process it. So.... look for yourself and use some logic for a change.