Panetta: Death penalty possible in Afghan shooting

reply to post by Hellas


Have you ever been in a combat situation? Have you ever had orders to kill someone?

Okay death penalty for killing 16 innocent human beings.

I wonder how much death penalty should be handed out to those guilty of murdering HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent human beings.

Tink about it.

Originally posted by jrod
reply to post by Hellas

 

Have you ever been in a combat situation? Have you ever had orders to kill someone?

How is this an excuse for the things he did? No, I have not. But if this would be something I would not be comfortable with, I wouldn't have signed up with the Army in the first place.

Just because they're in a warzone, doesn't mean that they can go on a killing spree.

reply to post by Hellas


Neither have I, but I know many who have. Everyone who has is a different person when they got back. It used to be call shell shock, now the call it PTSD. Some of our soldiers are deployed for a year or more, the stress involved can cause a sane person to crack.

Yes he enlisted but to expect anyone to go through such long deployments with no clear objective where one faces an invisible 'enemy' that takes sniper shots, plants bombs for convoys, launches RPG attacks against bases, ect is a situation that no one should have to be exposed to for such prolonged periods of time.

reply to post by jrod


I hear ya. Stil this seems that they want to please their good old friend Karzay and to calm the situation after the Quran burning and the urinating on corpses.

Why even bother with the death penalty if you are never going to use it…

What’s up with the death penalty in the military?

Hows the military's record with the death penalty been working lately...

The military has sentenced 15 servicemen to death since 1984, the year President Reagan reinstated the death penalty. But due to appeals, commutations and stays, just five men remain in the unit for the condemned.

John Bennet was the last soldier to be executed by the military. He was hanged in 1961, convicted of the rape and attempted murder of an 11-year-old Australian girl.

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the president must sign the order for an inmate to be executed.

I personally knew this guy Specialist Ronald GrayHe was a cook in 3/504 PIR – he was a jovial guy who made a mean fried egg.

Guess you never know… He raped and murdered a couple of female cab drivers wearing an M17 protective mask and a set of cook whites. They found them in a duffle bag in his wall locker. However, he’s still alive thanks to some dip# federal judge.

In July 2008, President George W. Bush signed the order to execute Gray, 43, a former Army specialist convicted of multiple rapes and murders, but a federal judge stayed the execution and Gray remains on death row.

Only reason this dude will get death would be to appease the crowd – never happen.

I think they are just words from Panetta to calm down the situation. If the past convictions are an example it shows the soldier will most probably get a two to five year of jail time and then released on probation with discharge. He will roam freely around after that.

reply to post by RealSpoke


I'm against the death penalty 100% but in this case, this is the military and there simply isn't an excuse for a soldier to "snap" and murder 16 innocent civilians.

Not only does this make the mission look bad, it makes the U.S military look worse in the eyes of the people it occupies.

As the people grow wary of these wars of mindless aggression, a question remains that has yet to be answered: Why would the people want ANOTHER one of these wars in Iran? WHYYY?? After all this?

reply to post by jrod


How many more times are soldiers and officers going to use PTSD as an excuse?

It does not matter.

Originally posted by Ek Bharatiya
I think they are just words from Panetta to calm down the situation. If the past convictions are an example it shows the soldier will most probably get a two to five year of jail time and then released on probation with discharge. He will roam freely around after that.

I actually think that they're going to do this, after thinking about it. He must do something to calm the situation and this is not done by words. They want to see blood and they'll get their wish

Here is the CNN source

edition.cnn.com...

deathbpenalty?
like with Tim McVeigh?

He worked for the government too when all those children were killed at OKC

reply to post by The Sword


PTSD is a very real issue with returning soldiers. Has been for many, many years...just went unrecognized for most of that time. My father suffers from it.

That doesn't excuse these shootings...but it may help explain them.

'Car Bomb' As Panetta Lands In Afghanistan

news.sky.com...


Hm.. False flag or did somebody dislike his comments?

reply to post by The Sword


9.11 was a result of PTSD you know? Years of bombing them and they finally snapped.