It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by Aim64C
However, "there is more than one way to skin a cat." The problem, however, is that we have to understand that there is a 'correct' and 'preferred' reference frame. From there, simultaneity follows with common sense, and FTL through classical or non-classical methods is not going to do ridiculous things like send things back in time (or other fanciful delusions). The universe is "on the same page." ... Of course - interesting in this is that the effect of special relativity is an emergent phenomena of general relativity (that all mass attracts itself and that the phenomena of gravity is limited, for whatever reason, to propagating at the speed of light... which means any object attempting to travel faster than the speed of light will encounter and 'ride' atop its own gravitational attraction, resulting in all documented phenomena of particles moving at relativistic velocities).
The Earth is eight light minutes from the Sun. According to the herd which is consensus science, gravity apparently has the magical ability of "action at a distance"...otherwise the Earth would fly out of orbit immediately. If it propagated at the speed of light, well...
They compared the position of J0842+1835 on September 8, 2002, with its average position on the off-Jupiter days. Plugging this into Kopeikin's formula for the gravitational field of the moving Jupiter gave them the answer they were looking for. Kopeikin and Fomalont became the first two people to quantitatively measure the speed of gravity, one of the fundamental constants of nature. They found that gravity does move at the same speed as light. Their actual figure was 1.06 times the speed of light, but there was an error of plus or minus 0.21. The results were then announced at the 2002 American Astronomical Society annual meeting in Seattle, Washington.5
“Einstein may be correct about the speed of gravity but the experiment in question neither confirms nor refutes this,” says Samuel. “In effect, the experiment was measuring effects associated with the propagation of light, not the speed of gravity.”
Samuel was able to simplify the calculations of the velocity-dependent effects by shifting from a reference frame in which Jupiter is moving, as was used by Kopeikin, to a reference frame in which Jupiter is stationary and Earth is moving. When he did this, Samuel found a formula that differed from the one used by Kopeikin to analyze the data. Under this new formula, the velocity-dependent effects were considerably smaller.
So right there it is obvious that the THEORY IS WRONG. None of the sheep will admit it.