reply to post by Emeraldous
The old Roman idea of conquest, honor and accolade when returning home from war is over. Even then the common people saw it for what it was.
The returning soldier seeking the justification for war time horror he/she needs when they get back is not there.
Obviously you do not know ancient Rome as well as you think.
You should know that honor and accolade when returning home from war was reserved only for the Caesars and for a special some. The rest would be
lucky to get a dingy cottage some land and an ass to plow it all. Back then it was a job, and for some an only option. Today it is a job and for
some an only option. Oh how the times have changed.
Do you think the people of Vietnam have this problem? The anguish the soldier experiences is the mind trying to justify why, in the case of Vietnam,
we are so against communism then and now we are more than friends.
Actually one can only hope that they can tell themselves that. But I think it was even worse then that, because everything you think you know, does
not really exist, or you can say that it was a lie. But it was not a lie, so you can say that it was all a play not unlike the ones you pay money to
go watch. For this one you pay as well.
You know don't believe everything you hear. After all what makes you think we were so against the communists then?
It might boggle the mind
but it could all just have been business disparities.
But your right, the anguish the soldier experiences is the mind trying to justify why? And nobody likes to think of why, that is troublesome thinking,
everybody likes there world lined up in nice little packages everything always planed out for, all they have to do is just sit there and follow the
instructions, and swallow what is given.
Why? Three little letters, yet they will change your whole outlook on things. So ask yourself why and try not to get to moody.
Or why places like Hamburger Hill happened, the basic concepts of war don't make sense.
Your wrong, it does make sense. And there are very legitimate reasons for why war happens. One being, because people are afraid to ask why. The
others...Well there are many others as well, and they do make perfect sense. There just not all that pretty to look at.
Here let me tell you a story.
When I was young, about 3 1/2 feet tall young, many years ago. I grew up or spent most of my time at my grandparents place, they were sort of
farmers. They used to have some animals, one of which was rabbits, every time I went there I would play with them sometimes, watch them run around
and even feed them, I think I even named a couple of them. One day, while there since I usually got dropped there for weeks on end by my parents. Well
my grandpa says to me. Hey there, here come with me I have to do something I may need some help with, not exactly those words but you get the picture.
So I went along thinking we was going to go play some games or something.
But I was wrong, we went to were the rabbits were kept, and he reaches in there and grabs one by its ears and pulls it out, he then reaches over grabs
a knife from somewhere. And as soon as the rabbit saw the knife it made this squeel I will never forget, and it got this look in it's eye and
started thrashing around like crazy...Well! there is more to the story but I am sure there is no point to go on, since your probably asking yourself.
Whats you point?
I have none I just felt like telling a short story.
But I suppose this is were the knocker would come in. For you see the knocker is a new concept and creation, one that is necessary because of the way
things are run. And yes it is relevant to this thread in a couple of ways. But the main I think is that there are not any real self sustained
lifestyles civilizations or nations out there. And as such we will all run around back and forth and drown like rats in a sinking ship, every time
the machine has a hiccup. If you don't believe me, just look at the tube and you will see that there all still arguing about the stuff they were
arguing hundred's if not thousands of years ago, sure they use different words. But words have a funny way of painting a picture that is not really
Historically there have been three powers over the citizenship that have run their course and have yet to disappear or be replaced. The military
class, the priest class and the political class have shown that they are more concerned about sustaining themselves and not their ideals. Very
recently of course the banker class emerged but that broke already, all we have to do is realize it.
What can I say, there all only human.
But they were all put in there spots by the citizenship in one way or another. And just so you know,
there are more powers over the citizenship then those