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12-Year-Old Girl Sues School for Spying on Her Facebook Account

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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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I have a 15 year old daughter. I'm telling ya ... a LOT OF BULLYING happens on Facebook and other sites like it. And I have seen very inappropriate stuff put on the facebook pages of the kids in reference to the school they go to. I don't agree with the school 'demanding passwords' so they can get into her account. But I do agree with them discussing a bad situation with her. If she was publically posting inapprorpiate things about other students or threats or whatever, they certainly have a right to discuss that with her. Considering the bullying and school shootings that go on ... etc etc.

So .. passwords NO ... discussion about what is posted YES. IMHO




posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
I have a 15 year old daughter. I'm telling ya ... a LOT OF BULLYING happens on Facebook and other sites like it. And I have seen very inappropriate stuff put on the facebook pages of the kids in reference to the school they go to. I don't agree with the school 'demanding passwords' so they can get into her account. But I do agree with them discussing a bad situation with her. If she was publically posting inapprorpiate things about other students or threats or whatever, they certainly have a right to discuss that with her. Considering the bullying and school shootings that go on ... etc etc.

So .. passwords NO ... discussion about what is posted YES. IMHO


questioning a minor with law enforcement present, without a parent or guardian or legal counsel present, is illegal.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by DerekJR321

Originally posted by Maponos
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As I said in my very first post she is on facebook against the T&Cs so it is not relevant, I questioned whether this would happen to a 13 year old. Probably not. This is a non issue, get over it. The girl is clearly a trouble maker, warned 3 times and as stated in my (2nd/3rd) post she should be banned from facebook and expelled from school and can jump in front of cars and sue the drivers for all I care.

This is not the lottery, its life and you don't get to sue everyone for anything you like except in America where you can even sue god lol Yes that actually happened!!

No wonder you retards still aren't able to accept that your entire financial system is OWNED by European banks and you are essentially just a plantation. Have fun when they close the borders. Im dont with this thread, I would defend a legitimate breach of privacy but as she is not entitled to have the account she is not entitled to the protections offered by the 1st Amendment. Also given that the facebook servers are located in Lapland do the laws still apply? hmmm yeah ponder that



As I stated, the T&C doesn't apply to her because she is a minor and can not enter into a legally binding contract. As well, Facebook does not age verify their users. And according to the CEO of Facebook, he thinks the rules should be changed.

Zuckerberg wants to let kids under 13 on Facebook

It is not Facebook's decision to prevent anyone under 13 from joining. It is the ruling of the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA). Hence why Facebook doesn't even bother to enforce it. So your arguing a dead point. And again, its a point that is irrelevant to this situation.

And explain to me clearly what right the school has to "warn her" about posting anything at all? Since when does the school have the right to police what she posts on a private page, or through email?

Obviously your last paragraph shows your true age or at least understanding of this matter. You can't grasp the fact that your arguments are invalid so you resort to childish rhetoric. The school is wrong. The police are wrong. This girls legal rights outlined under the 1st amendment (freedom of speech) and 4th amendment (unreasonable search and seizure) were broken. Deal with it. This has nothing to do with European bankers, or jumping in front of cars or making money. This has everything to do with a school and police department clearly overstepping their bounds.



Of course facebook don't enforce it, it is a data mining tool funded by the CIA. They want everyones personal information from cradle to grave, they even build shadow profiles for non users

That is the absolute irony of calling this a privacy issue.

Lapland don't have a 1st amendment and facebook just haven't started to enforce that yet but believe me they will.

They asked for her password, they didn't search her house or seize her computer equipment

Ta da, im off to try and convince Americans to wake up to the realities of their country before its too late, you can sit and argue whether this is right or whether the bird # on the window is from Annunaki shape shifter UFO Nibiru people or whatever floats your boat.

Just remember there are people in Europe and elsewhere trying their best to warn you of the realities you face, at great risk to themselves sometimes I may add.

I said earlier, if you want to protect you rights, pick your battles wisely. This is not the correct one as she sounds like a trouble making bully



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Maponos
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You ever read the T&Cs ? You do leave your rights at the door as your data become theirs to do what they like with once you upload it. They can sell your photos to pornodate or whatever they like, Freedom of speech also does not exist on facebook as they can choose to censor whatever they like and frequently do. Simply saying, "hey man we should go out and start a riot lol" got people jailed where I live.

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"THEY" is facebook NOT teachers at a school. Facebook has the right to it once you upload it NOT some teacher. Stop confusing facebook with the teachers and this girls constitutional rights.
You also posted a few comments back about the hall monitor being another student. The hall monitor was a staff member not a student. Did you read the actual complaint filed before commenting on it?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Thank you for this post on notifiying our children of their rights.... it's not something you'd think you'd need to do, but obviously not all schools will play within the rules, as more and more of these stories come out.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Maponos
Of course facebook don't enforce it, it is a data mining tool funded by the CIA. They want everyones personal information from cradle to grave, they even build shadow profiles for non users

That is the absolute irony of calling this a privacy issue.

Lapland don't have a 1st amendment and facebook just haven't started to enforce that yet but believe me they will.

They asked for her password, they didn't search her house or seize her computer equipment

Ta da, im off to try and convince Americans to wake up to the realities of their country before its too late, you can sit and argue whether this is right or whether the bird # on the window is from Annunaki shape shifter UFO Nibiru people or whatever floats your boat.

Just remember there are people in Europe and elsewhere trying their best to warn you of the realities you face, at great risk to themselves sometimes I may add.

I said earlier, if you want to protect you rights, pick your battles wisely. This is not the correct one as she sounds like a trouble making bully


Again you fail to see the truth in this situation. But I am assuming you are not from America. Instead of trying to warn us Americans of the dangers we face, you could try and straighten out your own continents horrendous mess.

Whatever "Lapland" you are referring to has no bearing on this situation. You keep mistaking this as a "Facebook" problem. It is not. Weather you think Facebook is the greatest thing in the world, or it is an "evil CIA front trying to collect information" is totally irrelevant. The laws pertaining to this girls invasion of privacy are what is at issue. This girl was held against her will by a school and police department that thought their actions were OK. Even after facing suit by the ACLU they defend their actions as appropriate.

The sad part is, our legal system will probably side with the school and police. Individual rights in this country are being destroyed left and right. And that is why I applaud the ACLU for bringing this school and police department to court. Someone has to put their foot down and say enough is enough. This girl was threatened into giving up private information. The law defines such actions as extortion. And her parents were not informed of this until AFTER it had happened.

Hopefully pink slips are issued.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Do your fellow man a service and post up the names of those who authorized the intrusion into the child's accounts, lets see what skeletons they hide in their personal emails/facebook and what ever other social account they hold.

oh..its times like this that those who know how to stroll into social accounts might end up doing so....



P.S. @ Teachers and Staff, you best delete your porn cookies from home computers and i would be careful what you say from here on end within your social accounts. Oops, to late, your surfing habits have now been copied and uploaded to a digital citizens vault.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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Try telling a 12 year old....who has friends who are all on Facebook that she is too young to be there. Perhaps know she is on it. This is between her and her parents. The school should have called the parents if they had an issue. Not forced her into revealing her password. And as another poster mentioned....questioning her without her parents and/or an attorney or guardian ad litem while deputies were present is illegal.

Maybe her hall monitor is mean. But she said that while she was not at school. I'm not for allowing 12 year olds free reign...they should be supervised while at home by parents. And while at school by the school. Why was LE even there?
She called someone a name. She didn't threaten harm to anyone. If she did then maybe I could see it. But name calling? Come on.... what...are we 12?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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Sometimes having full access to the facts helps


The ACLU explains the school disciplined the girl, known only as R.S., after she posted on Facebook that she “hated” a hall monitor who was “mean” to her. School principal Pat Falk said the comment constituted bullying; R.S. was given detention and told to apologize. The sixth-grade student was at home when she posted the comment: no school computer or school connections were used, the ACLU points out. Afterwards, she posted another comment, cursing that someone had shown her first one to school officials. The school district responded by giving her an in-school suspension and prohibiting her from attending a class ski trip. The ACLU argues the discipline violated the girl’s free speech rights.

In a second incident, the ACLU says school administrators forced R.S. to hand over her Facebook login credentials (e-mail address and password) and e-mail accounts after a boy’s mother complained that her son and the girl were talking about sex. The ACLU notes that while an unidentified school employee, a school counselor, and a local deputy sheriff were present, a warrant was not. Furthermore, the girl’s mother allegedly did not consent the search of her daughter’s Facebook chat logs. The group claims this violated the girl’s right to privacy and right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. Mind you, schools aren’t the only ones to do this (Employer demands Facebook login credentials during interview).


www.zdnet.com...

So it was being viewed as bullying as well as a sexual complaint.
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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So a 12 year old girl is bullying a school hall monitor. Is the hall monitor an adult?
Maybe the monitor was mean. So what. Why should the school get involved if it was off school grounds and there was no mention of harming anyone.

The school should have called the parents. Plain and simple. This girl is a minor and the offense.....talking smack about a school employee happened off school property and not during school time.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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lol the boy and girl talking about sex and that's an offense....wtf..from a nation that has built its economy on military industry..wtf is wrong with this. Breeding and Manufacturing a culture that knows and expects its country to be a military force across the planet and expect its citizens to be like sheep..


Sorry obvious psyops failure on this project. Go back to the lower floor and re-think social engineering and its impact on minors. Perhaps you could bio chip them from birth and alter their oxygen content into successfully creating low yield humans that would be ideal of consumption as rapid deployment within a hot zone. Oh my...isn't that what the boys discussed back in the 80's



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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It is if they start sharing picures.... PS good to see this is international news now wtf! Psyops failure? i dont think so, its got you all frothing at the mouth and people talking about attacking the school, so I guess we will see the new generation of anon rounded up in the next few weeks. This will also serve to undermine anon since frankly its a stupid cause in the grand scheme of things.

I accept that you are all correct in regard to the "parent preset when being questioned by the police" however dont you see that next time they may just take her down to the station and wait on the parents? i still think they were trying to do her a favour and deal with this in school rather than have to take her into custody. Does she havve a right to cause problems for the school as a whole via her 1st amendment? I accept this could have been better handled but I am simply trying to see this from both sides, and you may find your right to free speech does not exist on servers hosted outside of the US btw. Facebook have moved their data/ and yours outside of US juristiction.

O yeah and regarding the last part of your post, why do you think there is no free health care and education is so expensive EXCEPT if you join the military where it is free, cos you ARE the worlds cannon fodder. Your European landlords designed it this way. I dont agree with that but its the way it is. Why dont you make changing that your cause?
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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giggles, the world wide web is full of kids, every social network has them.
the spying part is cruel imo, but the kid can't say much..


5. You will not use Facebook if you are under 13.
oh sad...

nanu nanu



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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this makes me SEETHING WITH RAGE.


how dare they abuse and torture this poor girl into giving up personal information!?!?!?


she really shouldn't be on face book if she cares about privacy though, its just a tool for the government to track dumb people. "Lol i just flushed my toilet and my social security number is etc. LOL"


still, they crossed the line, everyone who did that to the poor girl should go to JAIL.


that is an outright invasion of her privacy, emotional damage, defamation of character, and so much more. i hope she presses charges and they get punished for their horrific crime.

and then she can go on face book and can call them mean. HA. take that.

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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Maponos
Shes in breach of facebooks terms and conditions, she should have her account terminated and told to [snip] off.
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and if anyone has privacy concerns then dont use facebook, it was funded by the cia via InQTel and has close connections to Palantir, it is a datamining tool. It was designed for this purpose.
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She may be in violation of facebooks terms and conditions and it may be true that anyone who wants privacy should stay off face book, but all of that is beside the point. The school has no business to butt into her private affairs that take place out of school and without use of school property. PERIOD. End of story.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Ya i take law classes. I get that. However, suing the school hurts everyone much more than she was hurt.
Bring criminal charges against the people who interrogated her, sure, im all for it.

But extracting money from the public/school system is just retarded to say the least.



posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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Agreed, to be fair im not sure she would get much anyway, there seemed to have been a case in the US settled where the school hacked into a boys webcam! they settled for 600k

Looking into this has raised some concerns, it seems that in some areas it is mandatory for the boys to "friend" the sports coach, is this not slightly dangerous given some of the scandals?

Great thread on your signature btw. I see you got the disinformation trolls early lol I have added star and flag and will hopefully add a comment shortly.



posted on Mar, 15 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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You are welcome! We were always being schooled about our rights when we were growing up and I always thought it was my duty to school my own kids. I would think that in this day and age parents would be even MORE aware of the need to teach their children these things. We can't depend on anyone else to do it, so we must all start teaching our children from a very young age about what their rights are.

School officials will outright lie to your kids and tell them something is not their right when it dang sure is. The only way kids will know better is if their parents take the time to teach them otherwise.



posted on Mar, 15 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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So very glad I am homeschooled! I hope she wins her suit, and the parents are smart enough to put the money into a college fund. Amazing......



posted on Mar, 15 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Many ATSers have pointed out the kids are being prepped for a future without privacy. This is another story that confirms our "paranoia". What gets me is when things like this happen the truebloods do not speak up, meaning other teachers, LEOs, soldiers or anyone else who gets a bad rap because of ignorance from a few. Let's say a MOD for ATS drops the ball and makes a mistake, would the other MODS keep quiet or speak up? And that question is on topic and relevant in more than one way, GEL.


 
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