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UPDATE: Obama Threatens Media With Federal Investigation If They Persue Birth Certificate!!

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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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reply to post by Zanti Misfit
 


Enjoyed the picture. The date says 27 Aug 68. Is that right? He sure doesn't look 7 years old. Hmmmm.
i297.photobucket.com...
Come on experts set me straight.

Had to laugh. I went to Google to double check his birth year and this was the top response:


Best guess for Barack Obama Date of birth is August 4, 1961
Mentioned on at least 8 websites including wikipedia.org, latimes.com and snopes.com - Show sources - Feedback







posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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What an utter waste of time. I went through all your links, it just proves that Obama has being paying campaign, taxes and other legal fees as the result of his 2008 campaign. No where in any of those links were there any specific references to birther lawsuits or hiding documents.

Can you pull a quote from any of those sources to prove your point?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


Did you bother to read my entire post? Specifically the 2.8 million dollars and my statement the bulk of his lawyers are wiorking pro bono, who have recovered their fees from the plantiffs when the cases were dismissed.

Apparently you did not.

Quit seeing only what you want and take the time to read my post, in addition to the links, in proper context to the conversation I was having.

I have no idea what the hell you are talking about for hiding documents, as I linked to his certificates.

Secondly Obama has not been paying for any of that. His Campaign and the DNC have been paying for it. My first argument about misuse of Air Force one stands and is justified as explained in that post.

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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


Specifically the 2.8 million dollars and my statement the bulk of his lawyers are wiorking pro bono, who have recovered their fees from the plantiffs when the cases were dismissed.


Where is the reference that Obama's campaign is spending $2.8 million to hide documents? Are there quotes from your sources that you can pull out for us? Because I see nothing more than standard campaign costs.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 12:39 AM
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I didn't read this entire thread, just skimmed over it. Fortunately, there are some people here that think this subject is ridiculous. Since the OP stated they are "waiting for this to be exposed", I don't think I'm being disrespecful here in saying that it's time for you birther folks to pull your heads out of your asses and move on to some new, ridiculous fantasy. The case is closed on this. Obama could time travel you people to the moment he was born and you'd still find a stupid excuse to keep going on about this. Thers's plenty of REAL stuff out there, possibily even done by Obama, that you could focus your energy on. I sure AZ voters are just happy that a sherrif they elected is wasting their tax dollars chasing this kind of crap. Does he not have any local matters to fix? Drop this # and get a life.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


Actually, Obama's lawyer was NOT present for the hearing.


President Barack Obama and his attorney failed to appear in a Georgia courtroom yesterday for a hearing on a complaint that says that Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and cannot be president.


www.blippitt.com...

I was referring to your claim that Obama was spending millions of dollars trying to hide his records - birth certificate, school records, etc. Do we have documentation of this spending?



Trying to deny he spent money to fight the birth certificate requests is stupid. In case you are unaware its reported to the FEC. The political action committee 'Obama for America' paid easily over 1 million to Perkins Coie law firm between Oct. 16, 2008 and October, 2009, to fight every request to release Obama's original birth records Robert F. Bauer was a partner in Perkins Coie before becoming White House Counsel in 2009. Bauer also began defending Barack Obama in eligibility lawsuits in 2008. Now ive included some of the quarterly reports but you can look up the rest yourself.

Year-End 2008 Obama for America disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $205,323.00

Amended post added aditional expenses to general election Obama for America disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $51,541.62 for a total of $256864.62

April 2009 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $688,316.42


October 2009 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $ 314,018.06

march 2010 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: 280,603.29


January 2011 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: 168,367.29

January 2012 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: 101,838.31

Here is where most of the legal defense for the law suits
2008

2008 part 2

2009

2010

2011

2012

Key here notice how payments to the law firm dropped off after he could use his justice department lawyer! By the way this didnt take long to find so obviously you didnt take the time.You made me curious if there was proof and guess what there is.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by Sixpax7736
I didn't read this entire thread, just skimmed over it. Fortunately, there are some people here that think this subject is ridiculous. Since the OP stated they are "waiting for this to be exposed", I don't think I'm being disrespecful here in saying that it's time for you birther folks to pull your heads out of your asses and move on to some new, ridiculous fantasy. The case is closed on this. Obama could time travel you people to the moment he was born and you'd still find a stupid excuse to keep going on about this. Thers's plenty of REAL stuff out there, possibily even done by Obama, that you could focus your energy on. I sure AZ voters are just happy that a sherrif they elected is wasting their tax dollars chasing this kind of crap. Does he not have any local matters to fix? Drop this # and get a life.


Here i agree its a waste of time arguing if hes eligible for office since hes all ready president. So at this point its silly Obama will never to agree to make the original public in truth who would but he should supply certified copy to the state election boards and for all i know may have?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


Specifically the 2.8 million dollars and my statement the bulk of his lawyers are wiorking pro bono, who have recovered their fees from the plantiffs when the cases were dismissed.


Where is the reference that Obama's campaign is spending $2.8 million to hide documents? Are there quotes from your sources that you can pull out for us? Because I see nothing more than standard campaign costs.


Where are you getting spending 2.8 million to hide documents from? Again read my posts and clarify your question.

reply to post by dragonridr
 

Thank you for posting that.. Apparently its to much to ask that people actually read. The reason we are in the mess we are is because people would rather be spoonfed than actually do something on their own accord.
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by kaylaluv
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


Actually, Obama's lawyer was NOT present for the hearing.


President Barack Obama and his attorney failed to appear in a Georgia courtroom yesterday for a hearing on a complaint that says that Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and cannot be president.


www.blippitt.com...

I was referring to your claim that Obama was spending millions of dollars trying to hide his records - birth certificate, school records, etc. Do we have documentation of this spending?



Trying to deny he spent money to fight the birth certificate requests is stupid.


This is a very true possibility. The lawsuits did cost the Obama administration something, although whether it's close a million is up to birthers to really demonstrate.


In case you are unaware its reported to the FEC. The political action committee 'Obama for America' paid easily over 1 million


Where is the evidence proving that such an amount was spent? Out of the 109 lawsuits, Obama's lawyer only appeared in 5. In the georgia lawsuit recently, Taitz lost to an empty seat, a DNC lawyer was not even present.

You have to demonstrate where his campaigna and his party had to spend that kind of money hiding documents he was never legally required to release in the first place, and you'd need to reference us a solid source pointing to that money actually being spent.

Simply linking us to a source that demonstrates tha his campaign spent money shows nothing.

How about this, give us an example of one birther lawsuit launched at Obama and the amount it cost to his campaign and the DNC, with a solid source indicating such money was spent.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:26 AM
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reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


Are you just outright refusing to read posts and coument or what?

this post answers your question. All of the money going to Perkins Cole is your answer. That is the Law Firm retained by Obamas Presidential campaign as well as Obama himself. That law firm handeled all claims made against Obama and his campaign, as well as the Birth Certificate issue.

Secondly, we have already stated, time and again now which you apparently are ignoring, that other law firms representing Obama are working Pro Bono. The lawyer from Perkins Cole took a job as White House Council in 2010 and went back to his practive in 2011 - the time frame where his birth certificate issue was at its apex.

hat exactly are you wanting here? You asked for a breakdown and we gave it to you.
You want a firther breakdown and we gave it to you.
Now you are wanting itemized statements?
What comes after that? Parking validation receipts.

Also, contray to popular beleif court issue are resolved outside of the courtroom about 90-95% of the time, either through motions or settlements or court dismissal. It still costs money even if it does not see the inside of a courtroom.
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr
Here i agree its a waste of time arguing if hes eligible for office since hes all ready president. So at this point its silly Obama will never to agree to make the original public in truth who would but he should supply certified copy to the state election boards and for all i know may have?


there is another Pandoras Box here that would make his birth certificate issue look like an easy day at the court. The electio had to be certified, and that is done by Congress. The question will be asked did any member of congress know the truth about Obamas history (should this break open and a full investigation occurs). If they did, and certified the results, they just implicated themselves in a conspiracy to defraud the citizens of the US in order to win an election.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure the state of Hawaii provided the BC, and thats all that's necessary.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


Are you just outright refusing to read posts and coument or what?

this post answers your question.


And again he links us to a source that merely shows costs incurred to his campaign, nothing else.

Why don't you go into one of those sources, pull out an excerpt or a quote??


That law firm handeled all claims made against Obama and his campaign, as well as the Birth Certificate issue.


Nobody is denying that his law firm had been present at some of the birth lawsuits. The question is where these millions or 100'000's is being spent specifically on these birther lawsuits?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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what does this have to do with his birth certificate?


HOLIDAY INNS 87 BANGOR 483.54
HOLIDAY INNS HOLIDAY DUNN 1,403.58
HOLIDAY INNS HOTEL & ANN ARBOR 1,523.88
HOLIDAY INNS HOTEL 0 LACROSSE 16,309.97
HOLIDAY INNS INDEPEN PHILADELP 581.25
HOLIDAY INNS Lynchburg 99.35
HYATT HOTELS ALBUQUE ALBUQUERQ 10,742.90
HYATT HOTELS CHICAGO CHICAGO 3,000.00
HYATT HOTELS CROWN C KANSAS CI 11,375.35
HYATT HOTELS CROWN CENTER 3,097.89
HYATT HOTELS DENVER DENVER 22,906.92
HYATT HOTELS GRND CY ORLANDO 205.00
HYATT HOTELS INDIANA INDIANAPO 5,146.14
HYATT HOTELS INTL AI ORLANDO 1,592.24
HYATT HOTELS MNPLS 4,820.17
HYATT HOTELS ON CAPI COLUMBUS 1,584.11
HYATT HOTELS ON CAPITL SQ 7,349.27
HYATT HOTELS PARK HY CHICAGO 2,760.16
HYATT HOTELS PHILADE PHILADELP 1,073.13
HYATT HOTELS REGENCY PHILADELP 2,611.54
HYATT HOTELS REGENCY PITTSBURG 11,260.05
HYATT HOTELS TAMPA TAMPA 6,264.00
HYATT HOTELS WAIKIKI 0.00
HYATT HOTELS WAIKIKI HONOLULU 36,106.97
HYATT HOTELS-CLEVELA CLEVELAND 14.99
HYATT PLACE AIRPORT CHARLOTTE 194.77
HYATT PLACE ARBORETU RICHMOND 151.42
HYATT PLACE GREENSBO GREENSBOR 951.37
HYATT PLACE INDIANAP I


or this??


SITE 5 LLC 9.97
SKA Media LLC 65,558.50
Skaggs, Kimberly 20.00
Skeem, Christian 25.00
Skinner, Wayne 5,535.00
Sklar, Patricia 20.00
Sklar, Stuart 50.00
Skocpol, Theda 890.00
Skoczek, Timothy 4,143.28


You cannot just link us to a long list of costs that have incurred over the Obama campaign and the DNC and point to this being evidence that he spent a million dollars hiding documents. It's dishonest.

Now go back to the source and actually quote where it shows he spent even close to a million dollars on a number of birther lawsuits.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:38 AM
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Please learn to read -

Read

You will see the info provided are payments to Perkins Cole Law Firm, who represented his campaign and as an individual. You seem to be trying very hard to ignore the information that is specific so you can continue to obfuscate the facts.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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I dont think people are questioning the fact he was born,
Just the fact that the certificate he presented is questionable at best and that he's hiding 'something'

that is enough for a massive investigation to occur. Why?

Because he is the leader of the western world and if he isnt meant to be there, then there's a MASSIVE agenda going on in the background. Ultimately, we are incharge, we are the people what ever agenda occurs should be ours alone.

Also, the whole birthers title is immature its a complex issue.

throw into the mix '' non birthers '' are yet to succesfully prove its TRUE, just like birthers are yet to prove its FALSE. Therefore, anyone who declares the other is wrong and should just ' pull their heads out of their asses ' needs to seriously rethink their logic.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


Please learn to read -

Read

You will see the info provided are payments to Perkins Cole Law Firm,


yes, that is exactly what I see:


HOLIDAY INNS 87 BANGOR 483.54
HOLIDAY INNS HOLIDAY DUNN 1,403.58
HOLIDAY INNS HOTEL & ANN ARBOR 1,523.88
HOLIDAY INNS HOTEL 0 LACROSSE 16,309.97
HOLIDAY INNS INDEPEN PHILADELP 581.25
HOLIDAY INNS Lynchburg 99.35
HYATT HOTELS ALBUQUE ALBUQUERQ 10,742.90
HYATT HOTELS CHICAGO CHICAGO 3,000.00
HYATT HOTELS CROWN C KANSAS CI 11,375.35
HYATT HOTELS CROWN CENTER 3,097.89
HYATT HOTELS DENVER DENVER 22,906.92
HYATT HOTELS GRND CY ORLANDO 205.00
HYATT HOTELS INDIANA INDIANAPO 5,146.14
HYATT HOTELS INTL AI ORLANDO 1,592.24
HYATT HOTELS MNPLS 4,820.17
HYATT HOTELS ON CAPI COLUMBUS 1,584.11
HYATT HOTELS ON CAPITL SQ 7,349.27
HYATT HOTELS PARK HY CHICAGO 2,760.16
HYATT HOTELS PHILADE PHILADELP 1,073.13
HYATT HOTELS REGENCY PHILADELP 2,611.54
HYATT HOTELS REGENCY PITTSBURG 11,260.05
HYATT HOTELS TAMPA TAMPA 6,264.00
HYATT HOTELS WAIKIKI 0.00
HYATT HOTELS WAIKIKI HONOLULU 36,106.97
HYATT HOTELS-CLEVELA CLEVELAND 14.99
HYATT PLACE AIRPORT CHARLOTTE 194.77
HYATT PLACE ARBORETU RICHMOND 151.42
HYATT PLACE GREENSBO GREENSBOR 951.37
HYATT PLACE INDIANAP I


How does this equate to Obama spending $1 million hiding documents? Can you explain this to me?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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Obama eligibility lawsuits, Perkins Coie law firm, Obama for America April 2010 payouts, Obama not natural born citizen, Perkins Coie represents Obama

Apparently you arent bothering to read -



Trying to deny he spent money to fight the birth certificate requests is stupid. In case you are unaware its reported to the FEC. The political action committee 'Obama for America' paid easily over 1 million to Perkins Coie law firm between Oct. 16, 2008 and October, 2009, to fight every request to release Obama's original birth records Robert F. Bauer was a partner in Perkins Coie before becoming White House Counsel in 2009. Bauer also began defending Barack Obama in eligibility lawsuits in 2008. Now ive included some of the quarterly reports but you can look up the rest yourself.

Year-End 2008 Obama for America disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $205,323.00

Amended post added aditional expenses to general election Obama for America disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $51,541.62 for a total of $256864.62

April 2009 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $688,316.42


October 2009 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: $ 314,018.06

march 2010 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: 280,603.29


January 2011 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: 168,367.29

January 2012 Obama for America quarterly disbursements to Perkins Coie were: 101,838.31

Here is where most of the legal defense for the law suits
2008

2008 part 2

2009

2010

2011

2012

Key here notice how payments to the law firm dropped off after he could use his justice department lawyer! By the way this didnt take long to find so obviously you didnt take the time.You made me curious if there was proof and guess what there is.


Are you just ignoring the info contained in this post or what?

Itemised statements documenting payouts, monthly, to Perkin cole Law Firm. As for what was spent where, the FEC Law does not require that specific requirement, leaving us to dig for the info. The links already posted going back a few pages touch on that topic with amounts spent.
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:52 AM
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An interesting explanation of why... This is my rationale behind settling this issue once and for all.

The President has taken an Oath to uphold the Constitution, he is our Commander in Chief, our chief Diplomat - He IS the USA when he travels and speaks with foreign leaders / governments.

How can one uphold the consitution and all the requirements of his office when the Oath he took is invalid from the get go? If he has to violate the law just to enforce the law, there is a problem.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 01:57 AM
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Obviously, you misinterpeted my meaning. But since it's already been proven WHERE he was born, the question IF he was born at all could be the next conspiracy for you to move on too! Android maybe? We love aliens here, that could be a possibility. Perhaps he was created in a lab? Maybe cloned off a sample of Monica Lewinski's dress? Let it go, dude. It's over. Much bigger issues to focus on.



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