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UPDATE: Obama Threatens Media With Federal Investigation If They Persue Birth Certificate!!

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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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Yeah "Sheriff Joe" said it.

Who where these kind whistleblowers?

What a crock of _______.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Nucleardoom



Nope....their skin is white...so they are in the clear. Obama has been sitting President for 3.5 years and this garbage is still going around.
reply to post by David9176
 

Nice try buddy, now you can put that race card back in your pocket and read a little. It DOES NOT MATTER who is sitting as president, white, black or purple - this has NOTHING to do with color and EVERYTHING to do with uncovering the truth.


Yeah, like any white president has ever been accused of being born in AFRICA.


Maybe that's because no other president's own family said they were born in Africa, but the same can't be said about Obama. I'd be willing to believe Obama's family would know more about his birthplace than a corrupt government with a proven lying track record.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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The only so called nutters, and agenda driven people in this are the idiots who continually ignore the facts that he has spent millions to keep it a secret, prevent investigation, and every attempt to show a legit BC has been quickly proven false. Their only defense is to call people crazy because the facts are clearly against them.

Whether the WND story is true or not doesn't make any difference. He is clearly hiding something and if he was legit he would have produced the legit document long ago and put this to rest. If this turns out to be true this just further confirms he is a fraud!
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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wow race card yet again. John McCain was asked to show his birth certificate in 2008, which he promptly presented.

What President would be unwilling to show us his birth certificate if we the people asked to see it. (Not to mention we are required by the Constitution to ask for it.) None of them would be unwilling, with the exception to date, of only one.

It took a long time for him to present what he did, and after all the fuss to see it, he provides the public with a BC, that is deemed fake by many who are familiar with Photoshop.

We know everything about John Kerry, Bush, and we even know about Elena Kagan's college thesis papers, yet we know nothing about Obama... Why?
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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Oh yeah, the same journalistic profession that uncovered Watergate, Monica, Enron, etc., is somehow going to be intimidated at this late date! Pull the other one, it's got bells on.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by madhatr137

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Deetermined
 





The only "reality" at this point is that the true original document has never been examined by an expert.


Has anyone asked for any of the GOP candidates birth certificate? Have they been viewed under an intense microscope?

Nope....their skin is white...so they are in the clear. Obama has been sitting President for 3.5 years and this garbage is still going around.


And they will continue with their malarkey until the end of his eighth year as president....

...and then they'll find some sort of feigned illegitimacy for whoever the 2016 Democratic candidate is.


If you honestly think Obama will leave office after eight years you are crazy. No later than 2014 they will be pushing for laws to do away with the two term limit. His plans require more time bear fruit and look around at his actions thus far.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by LoonyConservative
reply to post by David9176
 


wow race card yet again. John McCain was asked to show his birth certificate in 2008, which he promptly presented.

What President would be unwilling to show us his birth certificate if we the people asked to see it. (Not to mention we are required by the Constitution to ask for it.) None of them would be unwilling, with the exception to date, of only one.

It took a long time for him to present what he did, and after all the fuss to see it, he provides the public with a BC, that is deemed fake by many who are familiar with Photoshop.

We know everything about John Kerry, Bush, and we even know about Elena Kagan's college thesis papers, yet we know nothing about Obama... Why?
edit on 11-3-2012 by LoonyConservative because: (no reason given)


Plz link a scan of McCain's BC so all the experts here can scrutinize it? (Long form and short of course)
Thx

That's part of the problem. Birthers hear about McCain having shown his BC and it's over. A non issue at that point. Birthers themselves did not examine McCain's document.
So we have to ask ourselves why is it that Obama must continue to produce document after document? Two isn't sufficient? The scans for the public aren't sufficient? The only thing birthers will settle for is for the president to bring the document door to door. If that doesn;t happen then WND will always have an (expert) to discredit whatever he does. It's what WND and birthers do. They move goalposts, outright lie, and dismiss actual truths in favor of any information which paints Obama a different color.
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by 200Plus
]Originally posted by madhatr137
Originally posted by David9176
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And they will continue with their malarkey until the end of his eighth year as president....

...and then they'll find some sort of feigned illegitimacy for whoever the 2016 Democratic candidate is.


If you honestly think Obama will leave office after eight years you are crazy. No later than 2014 they will be pushing for laws to do away with the two term limit. His plans require more time bear fruit and look around at his actions thus far.


No they won't they know if they tried that they would have massive revolt. It doesn't matter who they get in there it will be their guy either way and he will advance the agena further just like Obama has since Bush and If Romney gets in he will do the same. Only guy that would not is Ron Paul and they will make sure he does not get in.

Yeah man Vote Obamney to Maintain the Status Quo!


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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Nucleardoom



Nope....their skin is white...so they are in the clear. Obama has been sitting President for 3.5 years and this garbage is still going around.
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Nice try buddy, now you can put that race card back in your pocket and read a little. It DOES NOT MATTER


Oh I think race is a large factor that motivates birtherism. He has released both birthcertificates, verified, in response to the howls of birthers, and they are still not satisfied. He is the only president to do so in history and he happens to be the first non-white president.

If you want to go on with this idea that race has nothing to do with this, be my guest.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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You're right, but in this case, the document was entirely forged. The state never issues it, the whole thing was made in photoshop and illustrator.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
he has spent millions to keep it a secret,


1. Where is the evidence that he spend millions hiding documents?
2. Why would he need to pay millions to hide documents that he is not legally obligated to release?


prevent investigation, and every attempt to show a legit BC has been quickly proven false.


Who 'proved' that his actual birth certificate was false?



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Jemison
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Yes .. people HAVE asked for the birth certificates of GOP candidates. Where have you been? The issue was raised over McCain's eligibility because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. www.nytimes.com...


And where did McCain show his birth certificate? As I recall, I have not seen on from him.


Romney has also received some flack, as did his father who was born in Mexico. en.wikipedia.org...


And where's Romney's birth certificate? Have you seen it?


The birth certificate issue has absolutely nothing to do with race.


It does in my view. I also think partisanship plays a significant role in this as well.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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You say he is clearly hiding something. Why do you say this? The man produced his short form and then had his long form scanned for the world to see. No other POTUS has done this. No one else was asked to of course. What is he hiding from you?

Obama has not spent millions hiding or sealing records. If you continue to believe this then you will never see the truth.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by LoonyConservative
reply to post by David9176
 


wow race card yet again. John McCain was asked to show his birth certificate in 2008, which he promptly presented.

What President would be unwilling to show us his birth certificate if we the people asked to see it. (Not to mention we are required by the Constitution to ask for it.) None of them would be unwilling, with the exception to date, of only one.

It took a long time for him to present what he did, and after all the fuss to see it, he provides the public with a BC, that is deemed fake by many who are familiar with Photoshop.

We know everything about John Kerry, Bush, and we even know about Elena Kagan's college thesis papers, yet we know nothing about Obama... Why?
edit on 11-3-2012 by LoonyConservative because: (no reason given)


McCain did not show his BC. In fact he refused to show anything at first and then later released a copy of BC. And that was that. You do know that a person can not release an original BC right? You can get a copy but not the original. And it is very rare they will let it be inspected. In Obamas case they did let state officials from both party inspect the original to confirm it was authenitic. Yes, Republicans also agreed it was legit. Its almost like people try to ignore reality and then just make up crap.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
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You're right, but in this case, the document was entirely forged. The state never issues it, the whole thing was made in photoshop and illustrator.


So the original inspected by both parties declared legit in Hawaii was also fake? And the birth annoucement in the local paper also fake? Maybe Hawaii is fake as well? And clearly the Republican Party is fake because they think it is real as well. Must be nice in your world to just declare anything you do not like to hear as fake.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by bl4ke360

Maybe that's because no other president's own family said they were born in Africa, but the same can't be said about Obama. I'd be willing to believe Obama's family would know more about his birthplace than a corrupt government with a proven lying track record.


And let's not forget his sister as well as his own campaign website (MyBarackObama.com) once said his birth hospital was Queen's Medical Center.

I guess the question wouldn't keep coming up if Obama, as well as the media, hadn't contradicted themselves so much between the time he was a Senator and his run for the Presidency.
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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Of course race has everything to do with it, if he was white he probably would not have a father from Kenya, and people would not question his legitimacy.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by hawkiye

Whether the WND story is true or not doesn't make any difference. He is clearly hiding something and if he was legit he would have produced the legit document long ago and put this to rest.


Actually he is not..it is only in your head that he is hiding something. Why should he defend himself against lies and more lies...why should he sink to the level of a birther...no one should.

Not one piece of evidence has ever panned out for the birthers..if people research any claim that is on the birther side...they would find out it is either a complete fabrication, taken out of context or simply another birther spreading something they heard without actually researching anything.

As for whether or not it matters if the WND is true or not...it does matter because the lies they spread should never be allowed as source material
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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Where's your proof that someone from both parties inspected the ORIGINAL?

The Governor may have instructed the Health Director to view it, but that's as far as it got. The Health Director claims the original is in a vault, but no member of either party has ever viewed it.



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