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Obama Anti-Christ Evidence Redux.

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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:34 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

If you want to also know who the Bible is speaking of when it talks of the woman with the cup, riding the beast of seven .s:


Revelations 17:
3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven .s and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her fore. was a mystery:

BABYLON THE GREAT

THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES

AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven .s and ten horns. 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven .s are seven hills on which the woman sits.

the Bible really could not be much clearer of who it's referring too here. That is why it was so imperative that the RCC had the Jesuits make up an alternative eschatological interpretation.


Seven Hills of Rome
The Seven Hills of Rome (Italian: Sette colli di Roma) east of the river Tiber form the geographical heart of Rome, within the walls of the ancient city.

The seven hills are:
Aventine Hill (Latin, Aventinus; Italian, Aventino)
Caelian Hill (Caelius, Celio)
Capitoline Hill (Capitolinus, Capitolino/Campidoglio)
Esquiline Hill (Esquilinus, Esquilino)
Palatine Hill (Palatinus, Palatino)
Quirinal Hill (Quirinalis, Quirinale)
Viminal Hill (Viminalis, Viminale)

And the woman that sits atop the Hills of Rome?
The Vatican:

Vates
In pagan Rome the vates resided on the Vatican Hill, the Hill of the Vatii. Indeed, the Vatican Hill takes it name from the Latin word Vaticanus, a vaticiniis ferendis, in allusion to the oracles, or Vaticinia, which were anciently delivered on the Vatican Hill



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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:18 AM
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I don't believe he's an anti-christ (well, he IS an anti-christ, just not THE Anti-christ). Just a closet Marxist.

The Anti-christ will have to be a Zionist who does miracles and claim he, not Jesus, is the Christ.

People thinking Rome is mysterious babylon should look up for the clear evidence that Jerusalem is the whore.


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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:30 AM
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obama is too stupid to be the antichrist. He wouldnt leave his "fun" stuff he likes to do , in order to do soemthing like this.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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This was more fun when it was Reagan no crazy math needed. Ronald 6 Wilson 6 Reagan 6.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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LL, have any of those which you speak of appear to have been christened from birth to serve a world leadership role now 50 yrs later? Now of those were any of those seemingly very poor. Ie, no inheritance.
This is looking like Serendipity at the very least.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Defcon 5 dont stop there, bring on the Cult of Sol Invictus, debunk Christianity and blame the Bloodline of Moses and say the Zioninst are the evil of the world.
Finish your roll, you have a great start!!!

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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
Defcon 5 dont stop there, bring on the Cult of Sol Invictus, debunk Christianity

I am a eschatological Historicist, I'm not delving into a bunch of conspiracy theories here. I'm simply showing how prophecy relates to things that have already existed for years. We are currently in the “end times” and have been so for almost 2000 years. We are getting to the end point of the “end times”.

While its true that the Roman Empire, followed by the Roman Church have injected much pagan belief into Christianity, I don't see anything there that will debunk Christianity as a whole. The main doctrinal books of Christianity have been in use since well before Constantine and the RCC were even around. You can date back the use of almost all the New Testament Books to St Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons in his writing of Adversus Haereses:

Irenaeus of Lyons:Scripture
Scholars contend that Irenaeus quotes from 21 of the 27 New Testament Texts:

Matthew (Book 3, Chapter 16)
Mark (Book 3, Chapter 10)
Luke (Book 3, Chapter 14)
John (Book 3, Chapter 11)
Acts of the Apostles (Book 3, Chapter 14)
Romans (Book 3, Chapter 16)
1 Corinthians (Book 1, Chapter 3)
2 Corinthians (Book 3, Chapter 7)
Galatians (Book 3, Chapter 22)
Ephesians (Book 5, Chapter 2)
Philippians (Book 4, Chapter 18)
Colossians (Book 1, Chapter 3)
1 Thessalonians (Book 5, Chapter 6)
2 Thessalonians (Book 5, Chapter 25)
1 Timothy (Book 1, Preface)
2 Timothy (Book 3, Chapter 14)
Titus (Book 3, Chapter 3)
1 Peter (Book 4, Chapter 9)
1 John (Book 3, Chapter 16)
2 John (Book 1, Chapter 16)
Revelation to John (Book 4, Chapter 20)

He may refer to Hebrews (Book 2, Chapter 30) and James (Book 4, Chapter 16) and maybe even 2 Peter (Book 5, Chapter 28) but does not cite Philemon, 3 John or Jude.

This is why the RCC was unable to change the contents of the texts to fit their agenda of control and money making, and wound up on the wrong end of a guy named Martin Luther, thereby causing the protestant reformation.

This is also why they kept the bible out of the hands of the populous for as long as was humanly possible, because they knew the scripture was directly in contrast with some of their doctrinal policies, but were unable to change the texts to their liking. If they had it within their power to “rewrite” the bible, they darn surely would have, simply to put an end to Luther and to justify their abuses

Originally posted by rebellender
blame the Bloodline of Moses and say the Zioninst are the evil of the world.

I do not even know if Zionists exist as a real entity, however; as I stated there are those who wanted to see a rebuilt Israel and had no problem with manipulating Christians to side with them once given the opportunity. If you're expecting me to bash Jews on here, then you're going to be quite disappointed. This is about getting to the truth of the prophecies, not about blaming any particular person. There are good and bad in all groups.

As a matter of fact, even though I believe that the RCC is the Beast, the Pontiff is the “little horn”, I still know, and am friends with many Catholics. Its not any more their personal fault what their religion has done, then its my fault for my governments place in prophecy also being one of the beasts.

For that matter the “first fruits” mentioned in Revelation are all Jewish Christians. So why would I bash on them?

I do, however, believe that the covenant with Israel is over after the majority of their peoples rejection of Christ as the messiah. That is why God allowed Jerusalem to be destroyed in 70AD, and the disciples sent out to teach the gentiles. The age of the Jews had ended, and the age of the church had begun. Just like the Arc of the Covenant, Israels place in Gods plan was finished, and it no longer was needed.

Anyway, if that's not what you're hinting about, and I have misunderstood you, then please go a. and explain it to me further...

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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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Hmm interesting stuff there. Any theories as to who the false prophet might be? I see tons of people asking about the beast(anti-christ) but they always leave out the false prophet. According to revalations the 2 go hand in hand and need each other.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



Revelation 13:
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven .s and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his .s the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his .s as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life Ps. 69.28 of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

This “beast” which Futurists refer to as the “antichrist” is actually Rome. First off its a beast, as mentioned in Daniel, which makes it a kingdom, not a person. It is comprised of a combination of all the beasts listed in Daniel 7. That is because it has ingested all those previous empires, and all their pagan beliefs. This beast was given authority to rule from the 500's to the 1700's, or 1260 years (see above for a better explanation of this).

Out of this beast comes a “mouth”, this coincides with the “little horn” in Daniel. That mouth/horn is the pontifex maximus, or as we know him today, the holy pontiff. He was in charge to setting the calendar, religious law, persecution of heretics, and claimed to speak with the divine authority of God.

Then we have this...



11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their fore.s: 17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

This is what futurists call the “false prophet”. Again though, its a beast, so it must be a kingdom, not a man. This kingdom is the USA, which came into being in 1776, as the Roman beast before it was wounded. The USA is based on the Roman Empire, their legal system, their government system. It is the first nation to use the atomic bomb, thereby “calling fire down from the heavens” before man. It is currently working on making us and all our allies comply with a biometric national ID system (here we call it the Real ID Act).

That's that basic overview of it. Sorry, I'm in a hurry because I have to run out for a few minutes.

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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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The control of our country by first controlling health care, Obama's plan is so much worse, it's diabolical. His plan includes the implantation of the micro-chip.

That is HR 3200 Section 2521 Page 1001, paragraph 1 of Obama's health care.

Republicans, in the still to be decided, go to your state caucus and vote for a godly man not the Republican candidate the establishment decided on...Mitt Romney. He's the same as Obama! Mitt is only pretending to be Christian and conservative. Look at Mormon doctrine and his political record.

This November, everyone go to the polls and vote BHO out.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Konduit
reply to post by HangTheTraitors
 
Obama (Mr. Soetoro) seems to be a FICTIONAL character himself. Are these MEN who created this FICTIONAL story still in power? I prefer curiosity to ignorance.
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5,000,000,000,000/1 odds are impossible. Full stop!
So it must have been purposefully arranged so!

We need to be prepared to think so far out of the box, it isn't even funny!
Nothing biblical. Everything contrived!

It couldn't! Could it?
www.abovetopsecret.com...


These are cosmetic additions indicated! Peel them back to reveal a mystery man!
So who played the role of bin laden?

The same cosmetic additions are seen in this photo of bin laden, as pointed out
by the red arrows.


Cropped and zoomed we get a close up of bin laden's left ear.


Compare this to cropped and zoomed pictures of obama's left


taken from this photo
and
this photo
respectively.

The ears are virtually identical, taking into account the slight differences in camera angles.
So bin laden is someone in disguise who has the almost exact eyes (see comparison in link)
and ears as obama. Put that together with the 5,000,000,000,000/1 odds and other
information you presented and we are left with the shocking, disturbing and inescapable
conclusion that barrack hussein obama is/was osama bin laden.


Also isn't there something about the anti-christ being deemed dead by an injury
to the ., only to subsequently re-appear alive, to the amazement of all!
Well obama killed osama, so will osama make a comeback of sorts?

This is all scripted, remember!
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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myself being aware of wellaware1 there are some tall tales being told by Ed.
Your ears do not match.Not with a change of the angle of the camera.
How much is Ed making now with his videos which anybody can do at home with Photoshop



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
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myself being aware of wellaware1 there are some tall tales being told by Ed.
Your ears do not match.Not with a change of the angle of the camera.
How much is Ed making now with his videos which anybody can do at home with Photoshop


Haven't been to his site for awhile but I will agree that he stretches the bounds of
credibility sometimes, but he has nailed it on other occasions (Gabby Giffords
staged event/hoax - confirming what I had learned previously, on another site).
No idea who he really is or what money he makes. I have heard all sorts of whisperings though!

Do you think that the photos indicate that bin laden is wearings some sort
of cosmetic facial prosthesis (i.e. latex addition)? If not, what do you think
is indicated by the arrows?

The ears are very close IMO, and other photo comparisons support this judgement.
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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Osama B and Barry O. are not the same guys by any stretch of the imagination. Ed Chiarini is full of pure crap. The Giffords/ actress is a hoax. They are 2 different people. His wanting to make money off of his hoax's separates him from ATS.
You can call camera angles all you want to spin a story but when it comes down to the truth, OBL and BS/BHO are 2 different people.

Wellaware1 is bad tabloid entertainment at best. There is no fact, to Chiarini's claims or other photo shop hoax then compare conspiracies.
I wont argue this with you there is nothing else to say about it and I wont waist the time of readers and moderators, speculating Hoaxes. I have made my point with you and am moving on
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
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Osama B and Barry O. are not the same guys by any stretch of the imagination. Ed Chiarini is full of pure crap. The Giffords/ actress is a hoax. They are 2 different people. His wanting to make money off of his hoax's separates him from ATS.
You can call camera angles all you want to spin a story but when it comes down to the truth, OBL and BS/BHO are 2 different people.

Wellaware1 is bad tabloid entertainment at best. There is no fact, to Chiarini's claims or other photo shop hoax then compare conspiracies.
I wont argue this with you there is nothing else to say about it and I wont waist the time of readers and moderators, speculating Hoaxes. I have made my point with you and am moving on
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The other thread has nothing to do with Ed Chiarini.

The Tucson shootings are a proven hoax/staged event.
www.cluesforum.info...

I beg to differ with your opinions.

Adios!
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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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you give me blog forum to validate a hoax?

yeah, bub bye!!!

Osama and Obama are 2 different people, Helen Keller could tell the difference



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
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you give me blog forum to validate a hoax?

yeah, bub bye!!!

Osama and Obama are 2 different people, Helen Keller could tell the difference


Obviously a man who judges books by covers, and completely
misses compelling evidence. It is a research forum that has exposed far more fakery than
someone with your mentality will ever know!


Another one with no comment about the latex cosmetics easily visible on bin ladens
face. So who is the mystery man behind the mask - with eyes and ears (and a name)
very similar to obama's?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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I took the name off the loader on my farm tractor. It was called "666 mighty master" I fell off a scaffold a few days later and got layed up for a while. I got punished for being an idiot, the name didn't really mean a thing. I think I finally understand what 666 really means now anyway.. I wonder why someone would name a front end loader that though.


I wouldn't say Obama is the devil.
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posted on Mar, 13 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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If you google the words 'Obama Mahdi' then you will see Muslims on youtube and Islamic blogs already calling Obama the Mahdi/antichrist. Rumor has it that Obama, with the help of the UN, plans to divide Israel and give parts of it to the Islamic caliphate via the Palestinians after the next election. If that happens then I suspect that many more Muslims will believe that Obama is the Mahdi. Some Islamic prophecies suggest that Isa/Islam's false Christ will appear and walk alongside the Mahdi. As most on ATS already know, Obama is just a Rothschild and Vatican puppet. Therefore, I suspect that the Jesuits in the Vatican are trying to pass Obama off as the Mahdi/antichrist by empowering him to divide Israel. The Vatican will then have access to David's temple in Jerusalem out of which they can traipse out David Rothschild as Islam's false Christ/Isa and Christianity's false prophet. I write more about my theory here: link

At that link, I wrote about how 'Christ' already supposedly appeared to a village of Muslims. I believe that David Rothschild or some other Christ-look-alike is field testing their NWO one world religion scam, Chrislam, or some other variation of universalism. Rick Warren, who prayed to Islam's false Christ/Isa at Obama's inauguration, is already preaching Chrislam. I also wonder if all of the sounds that people have been hearing is a field test. The noises sound like a shofar to me. Jews use shofars to invite the presence of God. All the Rothschilds really had to do is send out film crews to various places, blast the shofar over a loud speaker, and then post the videos all over the internet. I wonder if the Rothschilds intend to have film crews strategically placed, blast the shofar sounds again, and then project holograms of David Rothschild in the sky. Many people would be deceived into believing that David Rothschild, a son of perdition, was actually Christ returned. Just imagine what would happen if the shofar sounded and then David Rothschild appeared dressed up to look like Christ...


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posted on Mar, 14 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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defcon5:

Jerusalem also has seven hills. God is talking about a New Jerusalem from the heavens in Revelation. What does that imply about old Jerusalem?

Revelation1:18

And their bodies will lie in the main street of Jerusalem, the city that is figuratively called "Sodom" and "Egypt," the city where their Lord was crucified.


If you read what the prophets and Jesus said about Israel you will see Jerusalem is the whore. The early church believed the same things Catholics do now, so they didn't paganize it.
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