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I am not playing by their rules any more…

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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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It seems everyone is sick and tired of the way things are, however what is really being done about it? What are you doing about it? It really does not matter what issue you are talking about bank crooks, the deficit, the elite, vaccinations, fluoride, government control, propaganda, Kony, Iran, oil, inflation, deflation, Greek bail out, war, rumors of war, the joke of your vote counting for presidency, government experiments on different populations, chemtrails, and the list goes on and on. When we stop complaining and start doing then change can and will come. Protest all you want hold your signs and yell at the authorities “demanding” change but as long as you still pay your credit card bills, worry about your credit scores, buy their products, buy into THEIR system, teach your children the same sinking system, all you are is all talk and no action. They know this and not matter how much you complain there is no consequence for them.


So, again let me ask you, what are you doing about it? (Other than ranting and raving) This really is not to offend anyone but I want to know if anyone is actively making a small contribution to change. Before I go on let me first say I DO NOT condone any type of violence as an answer to any of the current problems we face. I cannot say this enough, is what they want you to use violence but that gives them the upper hand. However there are many small NON VIOLENT ways that would be far more effective.

I am truly interested to find out what others are doing if anything...





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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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im gonna go give in a shed without any electricity and camp rest of my life. need money to build shed though

and you're right, from where im sitting anyway. i see the healthcare and insurance industry as thefts. the sooner people quit the system and their jobs the sooner this monkey world will collapse giving rise to something new.
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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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So, what will you do when they garnish your wages?



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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If you don't pay what you owe (after all, they didn't give you a credit card, you asked for it and agreed to their terms), eventually it will go into the court system and you could lose your house and land.

If that were to happen, I bet there will be violence of some type.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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The problem is this, simply put:

If you have a social security number....you are playing by their rules.
If you have any traceable income...you are playing by their rules.

Basically, if you are using their currency, you are playing their game.
If you have a job and pay taxes, you are playing their game.
But you already know all this.

So until you actually decide to give up this lifestyle, that you chose to lead...
You are still playing by their rules.

You have to actually give up "the life (lie) they give you" to quit the game.


Ps: Getting a credit card and acquiring debt, then choosing not to pay for it is not "taking a stand".
It's being lazy and not taking responsibility for your actions. You didn't need that card. Or the credit.
Please don't get offended, I'm not trying to sound mean, but reasonable.
Honestly, people don't need credit cards. It is a huge control mechanism.
But not paying the debt back is basically stealing.
And that's a Common Law that shouldn't be broken.

Want to make a real stand? Give up your taxable life.
Make a choice to give up your "identity"...i.e., a license, or SSN or tax ID.
Then I'll be impressed.








posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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I am not playi
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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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just doing my part to speed it up



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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All I really want to know is if you are doing something more than just talking



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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I don't get this part

Here is my small stand and a little of why. I got a credit card for the first time a couple of months ago. I never agreed with credit cards because it has always been obvious to me that it is highway robbery. I have now decided to no longer make one single payment.


So, you borrowed money from someone, and now are refusing to pay it back, even though you shook hands (sort of) at the beginning saying you would pay back and add a bit more to help you out to begin with...

You are not playing by their rules..or the golden rule, or even any principles...your just a criminal then..right?

btw, can I borrow $1000 from you...I will pay you back...with interest...my word is as good as yours



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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I think there is a common misconception that playing by their rules, is a bad thing.... well it is, but you can always get out of it. Even if just a little, it does go a long way. Just because you end up in the system doesnt mean that the system has to drive you down.

You can opt out, in anyway you can or want. You can get off the grid entirely, or just a little, and of course not at all and thats the one that people find the most reassuring.

The game ended up being difficult to understand by design, I have many threads here that explain how to get out of the system, and fend for yourself, people just have to want to do it.

I applaud your effort, as many dont want to get out, or are afraid to take the necessary steps.

Peace, NRE.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by terra1
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All I really want to know is if you are doing something more than just talking


What are YOU doing?

It takes a lot of courage to not pay your bills.. (please note my sarcasm)



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by terra1
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I am not playing their rules. I stay home with my children because I do not buy into the two parent working materialistic world. I am an educated and informed slave the kind they try to avoid having happen. I have degree and could work but we have chosen not too.


What did you get a degree in, if you don't mind me asking.

One issue with society today is that in decent universities, there are not enough slots. I remember a neo-conservative article talking about how women shouldn't have as much access to universities, because too often they simply sit on their degrees and do nothing with em...and push out spots for men whom would use their universities to have a better life.

I disagreed with that view.

You are making me reconsider that.

Perhaps a woman's place is in the kitchen.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Proper way to not play by "Their" rules.

1) Become debt free, cut up your credit cards once you do
2) trade all your money into precious stones (silver and gold) and store it verses bank it
3) Grow your own food
4) Get (or better yet, make) your own solar panels and disconnect from the grid
5) Use your education productively to help your local community verses a mega corporation. help out a mom and pop shop anotherwords

Many other possibilities.
Saying your sitting on your degree, and not paying your bills is not being a rebel...its being lazy and irresponsible. Just my view.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by terra1
reply to post by LadySkadi
 


I am not playing their rules. I stay home with my children because I do not buy into the two parent working materialistic world. I am an educated and informed slave the kind they try to avoid having happen. I have degree and could work but we have chosen not too. I did not have children for the system to raise and brainwash. I put everything in my name under my social, my husband (who works) isn't on any of my accounts. If they figure it out and if they can garnish from him when he has no access to the account I do not think it would matter much at that point. Anyone able to do math or think logically can see that there is no way this system can sustain to much longer. It takes some time for them to garnish and I really do not see them having that much time...


You're deluded. Seriously. Your husband works; you stay home, and somehow this means you're "not playing by the rules"??? Of course you are. In fact, you're a spomge on the system. Hubby plays by the rules so you can pretend you don't. You borrow money and refuse to pay it back and somehow you think that makes you morally superior? You're just a common thief, is all. Hlaf the stuff you railes against in your first post is nonsense. Chemtrails? Seriously?

You're the problem, not the solution. Your attitude is what's wrong.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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You are right "two wrongs do not make a right"



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Im liking the direction your going in. Im similiarly aligned with your mentality, though slightly different.
With the credit cards, pay it of, let it hang out just incase. No one can escape the system we live in, nothing you do, or dont pay, cant get you out. My mantra to fixing that is, it's harder to see a wolf when he's wearing a sheeps clothing...aka inviltrate and fix the system from within. We all seem to watch the patterns and people in this world very closely, we see the b.s and processes/systems they use. I dont view them as enemies so much as people I admire for there intellect...I however have one of those pesky moral compasses that keeps me from being scum. But learn from how they do things, the collusion they have with other scum, collude with other good people. Im a non-violent person too, dont care for cops or authority, but it doesnt mean im gonna shoot a cop as he/she walks down the street. That being said, being a ghetto child i've had me life threated many times....i always came out on top all, 160lbs of skinny irish fu. I want no violence but you try to take my life.....well im still here if you get what im saying.

I guess my real point is, we come this sites like this to converse about these issues but why are they not happened in your town/neighborhood/coffee shop ect. Use the places you go to market the truth through art/flyers/conversation. Draw people into the viral internet world w/ non descript websites. We all know about the viral world, that will be our biggest allie in this push for a better future. If this Kony bs can jump off like that, a true campaign for freedom can too. The biggest issue with our side of the story is when people try to go viral its like getting hit over the head w a hammer, and it turns people off even though it true! Kony was a perfect psychological campaign, from images, to colors, to tonality of speech. These are the tools, we are the artist. Purveyors of peace have to step our game up....this 20th century grass roots on the street with poster trash does not work...hippies...morons (maybe because of hindsight....sex&drugs doesnt =peace love and happyness)! It has NEVER worked! But here...in the 21st century...we have the ability to access the world instantly. It must be properly exploited for real change, and we need to use it now while we still have free(ish) access.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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You sound like a GOP Presidential candidate.

Blame the other guy but don't come up with any of your OWN ideas.

What are YOU going to do about it?

You say that you want to challenge the establishment, but are using an internet connected computer to make this statement. A computer purchased from a multinational corporation using an internet connection bought from another multinational corporation is hardly "challenging the system".

I'm not being hypocritical by using my internet to say this, after all, I'm not calling for people to challenge the status quo. None of these conspiracy theories have affected me in any way whatsoever so far.

When they start to, I will take action. Actions will be determined based on how the items are affecting me at the time.
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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by terra1
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You are right "two wrongs do not make a right"


Being frustrated with the system is fully understandable.
So, instead of having a reactionary action, come up with a 10 point plan to guide yourself off of the establishment.

I gave a quick thought list of 5 earlier..add to it based on your circumstances, and make it a goal to where "they" can't come after you for any legal reason, but the goal is to stop feeding the machine..then people will ask how you did it verses come visit you from jail or under a bridge somewhere...

We spend a lot of time pushing ourselves deeper into the system, it will take some planning to get back out, but simply rejecting and stopping without climbing out of the hole you dug won't get you out...will actually just get you in deeper.

Emotions must not rule the day..this is where cold logic comes into play.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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I've been living PT, or Perpetual Tourist, for years. It works. speculationrules.com...

Now we are setting up an aquaponics farm here in Mexico. Completely out of the system, we will produce our own food. We are actually setting it up large scale to make money, so still within the system, we are going to have to pay sales tax, but when TSHTF we will have permanent free food supply at least. And I am still a tourist.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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There is something you can do to get out of the system legally, it will take sacrifices on your part as it's a lifestyle change for most.

PAC truth about the 14th amendment is about how the truth has been hidden from us ever since.

There is a thread here PAC/Patriot misbeliefs and so much more is what got me into study all this. There is a lot of reading and studying involved.

Basically when you follow the legal process you are no longer part of the system, however, you will lose all the benefits of the system. It is explained in the reading more and there is also a facebook group with many legal discussions and conference calls and such.

The methods they use a legally recognized by the US government and all State governments. You will no longer be a US citizen or US national; you will be a De Jure State National who only adheres to common law and outside of the jurisdiction of De Facto US and State government.



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