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Originally posted by pianopraze
I never said everyone in the world... gross exaggeration, all or nothing technique.
I never said I was targeted... slander and make person seem crazy technique.
You disgust me.
I did say that geoengineers have pointed out that one consequence of geoengineering is bacteria and virus' trapped in the stratosphere would come down. That would effect everyone in the region.[/quote
And do you have any evidence that this is happening now?
Quit these disgusting techniques.
Quit manufacturing dishonest "evidence".
Originally posted by Curious and Concerned
Well would you look at that. The model you used to adamantly claim contrails could not form, predicts contrail formation almost exactly at the time you photographed them, when using the best pressure settings as advised by NOAA. That's quite impressive for a model that only takes measurements every 12 hours. This matches the actual observed meteorogical data fairly closely. This proves that contrail formation was highly likely at the time of your pics.
To summarise all of the points you raised, and the appropriate rebuttal.
EPIC EVIDENCE FAIL!
Originally posted by pianopraze
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Your actions over just about every post here on ATS speaks more than any words I could say.
If they are geoengineering, the bacteria trapped up there would fall in a random fashion. So it would not hit every single person, It would spread out over the entire region and those unlucky enough to be out in it.
I have been out a lot in the nice weather recently photographing and riding my motorcycle. I would have a proportionately higher chance to be affected than others.
Pollen count is high now, but it hasn't really be that high yet - and is getting much higher now than it was March 7. Again I can make no conclusive connection. My comment was I will have to reexamine my thoughts on this subject. I have never had ear problems before, especially ones so serious that he might have to refer me onto a specialist to get tubes put in my ears if this medication does not fix it. My doctor said it was extremely rare of someone of my age to develop these type of problems.
Originally posted by pianopraze
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Your actions over just about every post here on ATS speaks more than any words I could say.
If they are geoengineering, the bacteria trapped up there would fall in a random fashion. So it would not hit every single person, It would spread out over the entire region and those unlucky enough to be out in it.
I have been out a lot in the nice weather recently photographing and riding my motorcycle. I would have a proportionately higher chance to be affected than others.
Pollen count is high now, but it hasn't really be that high yet - and is getting much higher now than it was March 7. Again I can make no conclusive connection.
My comment was I will have to reexamine my thoughts on this subject. I have never had ear problems before, especially ones so serious that he might have to refer me onto a specialist to get tubes put in my ears if this medication does not fix it. My doctor said it was extremely rare of someone of my age to develop these type of problems.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
I don't think we need a debate whether contrails could form or not. The OP did take pictures of two aircraft making them and those contrails remained throughout the other pictures though you can see them breaking up.
I think the point here is whether the finger clouds are just naturally formed or created by a large number of aircraft that flew in after the OP took the pictures of the first two contrails. The facts are we have no pictures of those "other aircraft" (OPs words) and it would need to have all been done in under 10 mins from start (clear sky with two contrails) to finish (very large fully formed fingered cloud).
Though the finger clouds are heading in a somewhat similar direction (effects of wind?) none of them are uniformed in any way as such would be the case in the event of aircraft all creating the same contrail type formations at the same time within a short span of time. Also I find it peculiar that the two older contrails would stay skinny the whole time as they broke up, but the newer ones would have some kind of super expansion that borders on the realm of impossibility for this all to happen under 10 mins.
In the end I see two real contrails and a cloud formation that did not need to expand at all but condensed all at once into the shape it ended up with (this can happen within 10 mins unlike expansion). The OP mistakenly took these very naturally form shapes as manmade, so really look at the finger clouds and you will see they are not uniformed at all as would be the case if they were manmade.
Point of fact I photographed two sets directly making long contrail x in the moonlight. 8:54 & 9:06. The contrails from 8:54 were spread out and east out of frame over the mountains at 9:06.
You are mistaken think those are the same contrails.
Geeze, man!!!!! You have LOST this one....give it up!! (Yeah...you gathered LOTS and LOTS of *stars* and *flags*...Woo Hoo!!!! Good for you!!!!!!)
you photographed perfectly NORMAL contrails. Done. End. Get over it, and go out and learn about aviation....Dude.
Originally posted by SteelToe
reply to post by ProudBird
you photographed perfectly NORMAL contrails. Done. End. Get over it, and go out and learn about aviation....Dude.
I disagree, they do not appear to be normal contrails to me under any definition.
con·trail/ˈkänˌtrāl/
Noun:
A trail of condensed water from an aircraft or rocket at high altitude, seen as a white streak against the sky.
I disagree, they do not appear to be normal contrails to me under any definition. I think your sense of what is normal has been extremely warped by you being too closely involved in the aviation industry.
your ignorance of what a contrail looks like any more.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
your ignorance of what a contrail looks like any more.
Technology of airplanes has evolved to name calling by the ones in the industry.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
your ignorance of what a contrail looks like any more.
Technology of airplanes has evolved to name calling by the ones in the industry.
Really? Helping someone know a little more is now name calling?
You say it is sad that people feel threatened by what others see in he sky - however all the threats of physical violence seem to be from "chemmies" against "contards" - and none the other way around.
There's a whole bunch of people out there saying they want to shoot down aircraft, kill pilots, stalk them, that there should be the death penalty for "spraying" and similar threats of violence.
Why is that?
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
your ignorance of what a contrail looks like any more.
Technology of airplanes has evolved to name calling by the ones in the industry.
Really? Helping someone know a little more is now name calling?
You say it is sad that people feel threatened by what others see in he sky - however all the threats of physical violence seem to be from "chemmies" against "contards" - and none the other way around.
There's a whole bunch of people out there saying they want to shoot down aircraft, kill pilots, stalk them, that there should be the death penalty for "spraying" and similar threats of violence.
Why is that?
And you have proof there is no people flying in planes threatening to harm those on the ground.
More false statements trying to force opinion.
It is getting easier to see thru you guys then the trails you leave in the air.