reply to post by XXX777
you sure about that one??
from what I've observed it's more like this...
the economy sucks, kids grow up and want to move out on their own. only the cost of living is too high for them to afford it on their 7-9 dollar an
hour job. so, well, they have a choice, partner up with a friend of the same sex, get a two bedroom, share the expense, and probably be labled as
gay....find themselves a girlfriend/boyfriend to shack up with, or well just get married.. more often than not, they shack up, since no one wants to
be thought of as gay and partnering up with the opposite sex has some pretty good side benefits, ya know, home cooked food, car matenaince, and
well...sex!! so well with the two of the working, hey they are doing fine, but then well, the sex leads to baby number one! and mom drops out of the
workforce leaving them with only one income. so, they go plodding down to social services because they really do need help!! only dad is still
working, and because he is earning a little bit of money, well, they don't qualify for much of anything!!! but...they sure as heck can't pay the
rent, keep the car on the road, have a warm house, and have food on the table too, and do you have any idea how much diapers and formula costs? and
let's not forget, the baby's six week check up is coming up and none of them have insurance!! so well, they start arguing over just what in their
budget needs to go out the window, each with a different perspective as to what is more important...eventually they break up....
she goes back to the welfare office to ask again for help!! which this time she gets, and they track down the dad and set up his support payments
(now, keep in mind, these two people weren't making enough money to support the three of them before they split up....now, they really need more
money, since they are trying to hold down two households! and they put her into a job training program. so, well, a little, very little bit of time
goes on, and mom finds herself feeling like she's hanging from the edge of a cliff, between school, the kid, and everything else, well, she's not
getting enough sleep, she's up and running just about all day, and she is dead tired! while dad is finding that no matter how little mom thinks that
child support payment is, it's big enough to make it so he still cannot pay his rent, have a nice warm apartment, food in his stomach, and keep his
car running.... and well, they will either work things out and get back together (very, very, quietly so welfare doesn't find out) or they'll will
find another partner to share in the responsibility. and well.....eventually, baby number two will come along!!! then three, then four, till mom
decides that getting her tubes tied might be a good idea!!
ya there's are some deadbeat dads, there are some women that have no moral integrity.....but there are ALOT of people who are just trying to find a
way to live in an economy that has been so screwed up by gov't intervention that there is no way that many people can live independently and stay
you make it sound like the majority of the welfare recipients are black, the fathers are drug dealers and gansters, and they are all lowlifes!!!
know one couple that broke up simply because they had a child that was born with a birth defect, was hospitalized quite often, had to have some very
expensive medicine, and well....he had a fairly good job, but not that danged good!! they were drowning in medical bills!! couldn't afford the
medicine, and it was the social service dept that was encouraging the separate!! that way, mom wouldn't have to include his income and they could
help them!!! of course, dad was hit hard when they started taking out the child support...but the baby at least got to live!!!
I've known alot of people where dad was still in the home, working, mom was staying at home (because well, 7-9 dollar an hour jobs won't pay for
child care anymore either!!!), and were on food stamps or hud, or whatever.....
and, I've also watch something that I could only describe as musical partners, where they will shack up for awhile, till social service is tipped
off, then well, the man flies away, to another friends home, and round and round they go...from friend to friend.....
I'd say the vast majority of the problem doesn't have much to do with the people's morality whatsoever, but rather, it has more to do with a social
service system that has a giant gap in it's eligibility criteria that leaves some hard working families starving and shivering while they are
pitching in so others can eat shrimp and turn their homes into saunas in the middle of a northeastern winter!! in which case, I guess you can blame
the gov'ts policies for any immorality you may seen within them!!