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NAACP Asking U.N. Human Rights Council to Condemn American Voter ID Laws

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posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 09:38 AM
They actualy want to bring the UN into this mess. Not good when you consider the crap that just oozed out of Panetta's mouth the other day. "international law trumps congress" Hmmm Here we go folks...

Riled by state-level voting law changes that it alleges are designed to suppress “the political participation of people of color, the poor, the elderly, and the young,” the NAACP is turning to the U.N. Human Rights Council for support.

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People president Benjamin Jealous and other association representatives plan to visit Geneva next week to address the HRC, a forum that frequently witnesses clashes between Western democracies and repressive states.

The NAACP delegation hopes the HRC will take up its concerns about legal initiatives such as voter ID laws passed by more than a dozen states, which proponents say are designed to prevent voter fraud but the NAACP charges are part of an orchestrated campaign to disenfranchise minority groups.

THIS explains it ALL

Of the council’s 47 members, 12 rank as “not free” and another 14 as “partly free” in annual rankings by Freedom House. Longstanding members include China, Cuba and Saudi Arabia, three of the world’s 17 most repressive regimes according to the Washington-based democracy watchdog. The Obama administration joined in 2009, reversing its predecessor’s policy of shunning the council.

2009 flashback

The U.N. Human Rights Council, since its inception in 2006, has called for restrictions on free speech and ignored blatant human rights abuses in a host of countries. It has passed five separate resolutions condemning Israel -- more resolutions than the total number it passed against all of the other 191 U.N. member states combined.

It counts among its members consistent human rights violators as China, Cuba, Egypt, Libya and Saudi Arabia.

And now the United States wants to become one of the organization's 47 members.

The Obama administration claims it can reform the "rights" body from the inside out. In a statement Tuesday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said the administration will join the council to help make it more effective as part of President Obama's desire to create a "new era of engagement" with the international community.

Since its inception, the Human Rights Council has held 10 regular sessions concerning human rights worldwide and five special sessions to denounce Israel, including issuing resolutions over the Jewish state's recent incursions in Gaza and Lebanon that exclude any mention of the terror groups Hamas and Hezbollah.

Here's the odd part given all of the recent hub bub on Joseph Kony, our troops in Central Africa (DRC, CAR, Uganda, South Sudan) etc The UN dropped its investigation in the DRC while now backing our troop deployment in DRC. Wow!

Meanwhile, it has dropped investigations into human rights abuses in a dozen countries, including Belarus, Cuba, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Liberia, said Bayefsky, who was one of the U.S. delegates to walk out of the U.N.'s 2001 racism conference in Durban, South Africa.

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posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 10:09 AM
This reply will mostly consist of sarcasm, since I am in a sarcastic mood at the moment.
Let's complain to the international community about our own voting laws. Let's have them decide if an ID is necessary for our own citizens to vote. While we're at it why don't we just let them decide the outcome of the vote too.
This is such nonsense. If you want, or do anything in the Good ol' U.S. of A. you HAVE to show your ID, why should voting be any different?
New law in my state says that if you are a cashier at any establishment that sells alcohol, and you fail to card ANYONE who APPEARS to be under the age of 40, then you have commited a misdemeanor offense, whether the person is of legal age or not. So, to counter this law, most establishments now card everyone regardless of their appearance in age.
Why is voting so different. You don't want people to be in possession of alcohol when it's not appropriate, but requiring you to prove who you are, and that you are legitimately eligible to vote is violating your civil rights?
You need an ID to receive state aid, food stamps and any other assistance so poor people should be just fine when it comes time to show proof of ID.
The real reason for the "outrage" against the new state laws requiring ID is that the cheating, and revolving door voting will be harder to achieve.
Now, with Panetta saying that international law trumps congressional decisions, we are headed for real trouble.
Like I really needed to tell ya'll here at ATS this.
I went to buy a video game with a mature rating and had to show my ID, I'm 41 years old.
The Rev.

posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 10:42 AM
I'm trying to find a list of countries that show their voting ID requirements, and the search engines are so clogged up with this issue with the US, that I'm not finding anything

What good is asking the UN? If they say ID is needed, then that just starts another argument about the UN.

I would have thought most countries require proof of who someone is, to prevent fraud.
Everyone in the US knows that voter fraud is rampant, yet no one can agree on how to fix it.

posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 10:55 AM
reply to post by snowspirit

Everyone also knows that requiring id to vote has been used in the past to hinder the minority vote and has been determined to be racist. Wisconsin has there new set of voter id laws, then they started closing down DMV's (department of motor vehicle) in minority areas making it more difficult for minorities to acquire id's.

Republicans can't win on there record so they are doing whatever they can to rig elections by limiting who can vote.

posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 11:01 AM
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

This is just so wrong.
The UN? Really?

Seems to me some are trying to subvert the sovereignty of the US, to open the doors to further erode the US Constitution , to bring us even closer to a one world government.....which we will not like.

I fail to see how showing ID to vote is a bad thing

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 11:10 AM

Originally posted by LDragonFire
reply to post by snowspirit

Everyone also knows that requiring id to vote has been used in the past to hinder the minority vote and has been determined to be racist. Wisconsin has there new set of voter id laws, then they started closing down DMV's (department of motor vehicle) in minority areas making it more difficult for minorities to acquire id's.

But don't people need ID to get a job, or state aid, if they don't have a job? Or alcohol, if looking like they could possibly be underage?
It seems if they want money from a job - ID. If they want money and don't have a job - ID. The only ones that don't need ID, are the ones getting their money from illegal activities, or working under the table (unregistered workers), which is also illegal.

It's the 21st century, how is it so hard to do such a simple thing?
That's what I don't understand. The only minorities that I could imagine this would affect would be illegal immigrants, that can't get ID.

There should be other places to get ID also, like government's agency offices

There are so many places up here in Canada to get ID, and it's so easy (and cheap). I guess it's confusing because the states prides itself on being ahead of other countries (supposedly), and then stuff like this is such an issue...

posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 05:14 PM
reply to post by jibeho

For the love of God.....

The NAACP, ACLU.. they all need to worry about the important things.... Its voting.. why is it so wrong to ensure the people who are voting are actually legally abler to vote?

There are far more important things we should be worrying about as a nation... As well as the UN...
edit on 9-3-2012 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 11:26 PM
Looks to me like the sour grapes crowd is just trying to get their cheap justice enforced by a higher "authority".

I think many States already have voter ID requirements.

I believe they want voter fraud to always be at their disposal.

This malarkey about depressed areas having less access to ID is pure BeeEss IMO.

They are really getting desperate

If Acorn (or whatever their name(s) are these days) can have all the voter registration drives,
they can have an ID drive too. WTF is the problem ?

Unless ...

posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 02:24 AM
NAACP Asking U.N. Human Rights Council to Condemn American Voter ID Laws

One of the beefs is that DMV offices to obtain voter ID are closing, especially in high minority areas. ial=1

Decreases in property and sales tax revenues have created budgetary shortfalls for most state governments. As a result of these budget cuts, many Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) offices have been forced to close branch locations, reduce workforce through layoffs, implement hiring freezes, shorten hours or days of operation, eliminate overtime, and institute work furloughs for remaining employees. In many cases, these actions have resulted in understaffed DMV offices. The states most affected by these cutbacks are California, Connecticut, Colorado, Illinois, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Washington.

Ok, here's some dirt on Wisconsin (listed above):

Gov. Scott Walker’s administration is working on finalizing a plan to close as many as 10 offices where people can obtain driver’s licenses in order to expand hours elsewhere and come into compliance with new requirements that voters show photo IDs at the polls.

One Democratic lawmaker said Friday it appeared the decisions were based on politics, with the department targeting offices for closure in Democratic areas and expanding hours for those in Republican districts. [...] Rep. Andy Jorgensen, D-Fort Atkinson, called on the state Department of Transportation to reconsider its plants to close the Fort Atkinson DMV center. The department plans to expand by four hours a week the hours of a center about 30 minutes away in Watertown. [...]

“What the heck is going on here?” Jorgensen said. “Is politics at play here?”

Here's a link to the NAACP Report:

Several states have passed laws requiring voters to present specific types of photo identification and proof of citizenship to vote; creating new rules for voter registration drives; reducing early voting days and voter registration periods; and further preventing ex-felons from voting. The NAACP refers to these in its report as "block the vote" tactics.

The hammer swings both ways:

[T]wo Ohio voters, including Christopher Barkley , [sic] claimed that they were hounded by the community-activist group ACORN to register to vote several times, even though they made it clear they’d already signed up. Barkley estimated he’d registered to vote ‘10 to 15’ times after canvassers for ACORN relentlessly pursued him and others. ‘I kept getting approached by folks who asked me to register,’ Barkley said….

ACORN bribed and/or pressured Freddie Johnson of Cleveland to register to vote 72 times. Johnson filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of ACORN. Johnson stated ‘[s]ometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they’ll give me a dollar to sign up, …The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, ‘You are?’ I say, ‘Yup,’ and then they say, ‘Can you just sign up again?’‘ He’d collected 10 to 20 cigarettes and anywhere from $10 to $15, he said. [Emphasis added]

Excuse me, but if you don't have Photo ID you can vote as many times as you can get away with it.

I recently read about a man who said he was able to register his dog to vote. Mass fraudulent registration lends itself to fraudulent voting with out Photo ID.

This is a messy issue. I guess the NAACP is just as frustrated with the government as the rest of us. If crying to the UN does any good, I'd be surprised.

I will re-read the OP and try to make some sense of this political ploy tomorrow. It just isn't sinking in right now.

jibeho, you come up with some very decent threads. Thank you.

God Bless.

posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 09:44 AM
According to Wikileaks' latest drop 2008 was full of voter fraud cases that were never pursued. In one instance it was mentioned that McCain did no want to pursue the case in order to avoid a large scale civil unrest situation.

Quite interesting...Sarah Palin stated on Hannity the other night that the McCain campaign decided to back off the vetting of Obama in 2008 as well. It certainly seems like the deck was stacked with race cards since the beginning of the 2008 campaign. Hillary backed off as well during the primary.

What a set up!

posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 06:59 AM
S&F, another good thread!

Sorry, but claiming that ID to vote is somehow "racist" is total malarkey! You can't register for school, drive a car, open a bank account, cash a check, get a job, collect welfare, check out a library book, board an airplane, buy liquor, use a credit card, pick up mail at the post office, enter a bar or casino, enter a military base.....without identification. Gee, is my husband discriminated against every day when he goes to work?

Requiring identification to vote is a good and sensible thing, and only people wanting to commit voter fraud are against it.

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