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Originally posted by GhettoRice
reply to post by DavidWillts
So.............. wait wat?
"you are not obligated to comply" Is this not the essence of the argument at hand? Did you just agree with the freeman stance?
Originally posted by Damrod
reply to post by DavidWillts
Who is so ashamed they cannot show a name?.....
stop...you are not among enemies..you are just stronger inclined than others....relax and talk normal
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Do the research, begin with your own city, like I did. I will not do it for you. After a lot of investigation, I got the city attorney to admit to me that the whole city was in fact a corporation, and even named it for me.
A municipal corporation is a city, town, village, or borough that has governmental powers.
Federal Law can only be applied within a State with State permission, 10th. Amendment of the Constitution.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
(The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts.)
Originally posted by Dilligaf28
reply to post by illuminnaughty
I did not specify within my post that I was interested in a case within the United States. I will read over your link but I'm primarily interested in cases within the U.S.
Edit to add:
I read over that and its not at all what I'm interested in. I don't want to see blogs or videos I want to see an official transcript or a "court file" of a case where someone successfully used "sovereign" methodology to prevail in that court within the United States. This is a matter of public record and should be easily available yet in my years of research I have not found it. Surely someone has one of these cases that I can study?edit on 9-3-2012 by Dilligaf28 because: (no reason given)
Sovereign citizen Richard Ulloa was to be sentenced for terrorizing police and bank officials in upstate New York with fake bills he hoped would stop a foreclosure on his home. Then he had an odd sort of epiphany.
“I’ve come to the realization I need therapy,” Ulloa, 52, told U.S. District Judge Thomas McAvoy during a sentencing hearing on Tuesday. He then went on to confess that a jail therapy program for alcoholics and drug addicts helped him realize he had a “delusional disorder” and that he never should have represented himself in his trial.