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Welfare Recipients Traded Food Stamps for Cash to Buy Drugs and Guns

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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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Welfare Recipients Traded Food Stamps for Cash to Buy Drugs and Guns


That's according to testimony by the Inspector General for the Department of Agriculture Phyllis Fong.

She reported to Congress that corruption exists in the Food Stamp program.

Fraudulent activities include trading transactions with willing stores for cash instead of qualified food !!
(what a surprise !)

She also pointed out:

The IG also alerted House members about the USDA not vetting some recipients’ Social Security numbers when checking for program eligibility, which in turn may allow them to defraud SNAP of millions in taxpayer funds each month.

The Office of Inspector General "also has been looking at recipients who misrepresent themselves to receive benefits," said Fong. "Recently, OIG has conducted a series of audits of 10 States to assess how they used participant databases to identify potentially fraudulent recipients, and we have completed work in 5 States."

"Our analysis of the databases that States check as part of their role in ensuring recipient eligibility revealed that a total of 8,594 recipients in the 5 States were receiving potential improper payments,” stated the IG. “Some of these recipients were using the Social Security numbers of deceased individuals, or otherwise invalid Social Security numbers, while others were receiving benefits in more than one State. In total, we estimate that these recipients could be receiving about $1.1 million a month.”

Food Stamps for Cash


Another USDA official made statements defending the integrity of the program however,
clarifying that the vast majority of recipients are honest.
(as far as they can tell at least)


Add:

In terms of participants and budget, SNAP is the USDA’s largest program, which currently costs a total of $75 billion annually.

The latest estimate from the USDA places the number of food stamp recipients so far this fiscal year (Oct. 1, 2011-Sept. 30, 2012) at about 46.3 million. That is a substantial increase from the 30.8 million beneficiaries at the beginning of FY 2009.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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Before I even opened this thread I thought to myself that sounds like the propaganda you would hear from a bunch of Republicans getting ready to try to defund the food stamp program!



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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The real problem is that JP Morgan runs the program and makes huge profits from it.


The banks create the poverty then profits from it.


JP Morgan is the largest processor of food stamp benefits in the United States. JP Morgan has contracted to provide food stamp debit cards in 26 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. JP Morgan is paid for each case that it handles, so that means that the more Americans that go on food stamps, the more profits JP Morgan makes. Yes, you read that correctly.


dailybail.com...

The common people on food stamps are not the problem. They want you to fight your neighbor and not focus on the real issue.





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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Old news, really. In the seventies food stamps were regarded as "half cash." In other words, the going rate for food stamps was that they were worth 50 cents on the dollar. But back then they looked like cash, too. They weren't debit cards, so it has become more difficult to trade them on the underground market. I remember a friend of mine was moving out of state and asked me if I would do him a favor and trade cash for food stamps one on one. I did, then other people told me I was foolish for having done so because the ratio was 50 cents on the dollar.

Yeah, OK. I got duped, but on the other hand he was a friend and I did him a favor.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by jaws1975
Before I even opened this thread I thought to myself that sounds like the propaganda you would hear from a bunch of Republicans getting ready to try to defund the food stamp program!


Which is a noble goal:



If you can't do without the government, you have, indeed, embraced slavery. Congrats.
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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Welfare Recipients Traded Food Stamps for Cash to Buy Drugs and Guns


Where do I sign up?



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
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Welfare Recipients Traded Food Stamps for Cash to Buy Drugs and Guns


Where do I sign up?




Simple, get a fake American S.S. number and I.D. from Bill Ayers Inc.


How do they do this in Canada ?



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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The main thing parks are afraid of is predators like bears associating humans with food. Then bears no longer fear us which will lead to more attacks and fatalities. But yeah, government dependency is bad.

Food stamps have nothing to do with slavery. Slavery is forcing someone to do something against their will. Most people that make living on food stamps a life time commitment are just mooches. It is a personal choice. They generally have no ambition or will to better themselves.

I have no problem if a family gets on food stamps temporarily that REALLY needs them. People lose their jobs, get sick, and just flat out fall on bad luck. It is a good program in theory if used as needed. But no bank or corporation should be profiting from it. That creates a total control of the economy and a private incentive to make it worse.


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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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[color=cyan]*****

Excellent Point !!

The banks always get paid first !!
(and MORE THAN anybody else !!)



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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In terms of participants and budget, SNAP is the USDA’s largest program, which currently costs a total of $75 billion annually.

$75billion a year?

They're gonna have to halt a hell of alot of payments just to break even on that cost. I'm assuming that the goal of this SNAP program is to save taxpayer money by hunting down and halting fraudulent claims?

I'm no budget expert, but is this program costing billions more than it is saving?



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Cool picture of the bear !

He looks like he's waiting for the honey and biscuits !!

Should WE serve him ?



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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drug test them on the spot so no fake pee can be used if thy cant pee in a pot they go hungry,the people who arnt abusing the system should pass



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Don't get me wrong i'm a Ron Paul guy, the problem is that all the other Republicans target the social welfare programs, and protect the rich at all costs. If we did what Ron Paul wants to do we would have real free markets, stop the lobbying and special interests, we wouldn't have outsourced all of our manufacturing and there would be plenty of jobs that would greatly reduce the amount of food stamps needed.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by doobydoll
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In terms of participants and budget, SNAP is the USDA’s largest program, which currently costs a total of $75 billion annually.

$75billion a year?

They're gonna have to halt a hell of alot of payments just to break even on that cost. I'm assuming that the goal of this SNAP program is to save taxpayer money by hunting down and halting fraudulent claims?

I'm no budget expert, but is this program costing billions more than it is saving?


Or, increase taxes on whoever is left to pay taxes that is.

The Food stamp program has always existed to keep people from going hungry,

even criminals.

It may actually cost more to prosecute ... that's why they leave well enough alone sometimes.

It's still all about money.






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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by jaws1975
Before I even opened this thread I thought to myself that sounds like the propaganda you would hear from a bunch of Republicans getting ready to try to defund the food stamp program!


Yeah seems like that. I can imagine the s*** for brains Republicans saying "see this is where YOUR tax dollars are going!" Actually its our tax dollars dill weeds because my tax paying dollars also fund idiot causes on the right AND the left. Do I like it, no. Thats why I work to change it . And stop blaming people who need food stamps for Christ sake? Act a little Christ like and since the Republicans are effectively the same as the Christian fundamentalists now that shouldn't be such a stretch.

If someones hungry "Feed them damn it"! I get very annoyed by food riots and whole scale revolutions. Ruins my whole f****** day...



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:33 PM
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If you were to cut off food stamps to everyone who tested positive for drugs we would have a major crime problem, also drug tests are only effective in catching cannabis users. Poverty, being hungry causes crime. A hungry person will steal to feed themselves and their family. I am sure you have never truly been hungry in your life so would not understand.

Considering a person's name is on the food stamp card, there is no excuses for food stamp fraud. The primary blame would lay on the store for not verifying the person is who they say they are. The trading food stamps for guns is probably more or less bull. Given how many people or on food stamps, it probably has happened but very rarely.

Hopefully this report is not propaganda to drug test all food stamp recipients, or an attempt to prevent food stamp recipients from bearing firearms.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
Welfare Recipients Traded Food Stamps for Cash to Buy Drugs and Guns


That's according to testimony by the Inspector General for the Department of Agriculture Phyllis Fong.

She reported to Congress that corruption exists in the Food Stamp program.

Fraudulent activities include trading transactions with willing stores for cash instead of qualified food !!
(what a surprise !)


I must say I am shocked - shocked that anyone would abuse this necessary and life giving program!

The absurdity that people would use thier "free money" for anything other than food as intended.

Have they no respect for those from whom the funds are forcibly taken?



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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That's why some call them ...

"Psychopaths"



posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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The main thing parks are afraid of is predators like bears associating humans with food. Then bears no longer fear us which will lead to more attacks and fatalities. But yeah, government dependency is bad.


Please don't tell me you didn't get the analogy here. The poster was trying to make a point about creating dependancy, ok?


Food stamps have nothing to do with slavery. Slavery is forcing someone to do something against their will. Most people that make living on food stamps a life time commitment are just mooches. It is a personal choice. They generally have no ambition or will to better themselves.


If food stamps are temporary, I agree, but I=if you equate dependency with slavery, yes it does. If you are dependent on government for even the food you eat, you basically have to do what the government tells you to or you don't eat. That's a pretty good working definition of slavery. If you can't even feed yourself, the government "owns" you.

A really good example of this is how the government treated the Indian tribes for a hundred years. In addition to the boarding school fiascos, one of the things the BIA did was create dependancy. There were all sorts of "programs" to "help" the tribes. That evolved into a another kind of dependancy as the government allowed the tribes to apply for grants, once again to "help" the tribes. This evolved into an incredibly corrupt bureaucracy where the main industry of the tribes became government grants. The tribes lobbied for this and were granted incredible sums of money so that every tribal chairman could put his entire family on the government payroll.

Then the tribes discovered gambling. They got laws passed that exempted them from gambling laws and over about a decade used casinos to build a hefty business arm. In one case a tribe near me has expanded into the wider community beyond the Rez with a diverse set of businesses. The tribe has full employment and its members receive a large dividend of tribal profits. This tribe was against a golf course development nearby (on environmental grounds), but the guy managed to build his golf course anyway after many legal challenges. Then he got caught in the recession and the bank foreclosed. Guess who bought the golf course? The tribe, of course. The developer failed, and then the bank itself failed, but the tribe gained.

This is an excellent example of what that poster is about. The tribes finally decided they didn't want to act like the bears any more. They didn't want to be the BIA's Indian any more. They wanted to take charge of their own lives, and that's just exactly what they are doing.

If you insist on having the government pay for your food, furnish your housing, pay your tuition, pay off your student loans because you spent $100K getting a B.A. in 17th century English literature, and basically do all those things the occupy movement wants, then you will create a socialist slave state that will be hell on earth.



posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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I thought the picture was rather fitting the us is a zoo where the government the zookeeper feeds the "animals" who can't be released back into the wild because they can't take care of themselves.

With over 50 million Americans on welfare YEAH THERE IS A LOT OF BS such as the op going on.

Since crybabies will never get rid of welfare which needs to be done i say anyone who has ever recevied food stamps pays back what they took.
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