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Are Whites More Discriminated Against Than Blacks?

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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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I would have absolutely no problem at all with affirmative action if it distributed jobs proportionately according to population.

But when you have departments of government workers where %80 are black and they only make up %12 of the population it is quite clear that it is institutionalized racism against white people.

I wonder how long this is going to go on?




posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Are Whites More discriminated against than blacks?

I'd say, "Yes".
Even Obama being 1/2 white does so against his own 'white'. He is referred to as black when he clearly is half and half.

People should be referred to as PEOPLE these days. The majority are all mixed > and I don't think there is anyone as of one "pure" race. Regardless, people should not even look at color!

My 2cnts.

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

People are people and folks shouldn't refer to color!



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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Afirmative action is unfair because it discriminates on the basis of race against poorer white people.
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It is needed as white people hold the biscuits. These issues need to be adressed and people like you do not help...




White households had incomes that were two-thirds higher than blacks and 40 percent higher than Hispanics last year, according to data released Tuesday by the Census Bureau. White adults were also more likely than black and Hispanic adults to have college degrees and to own their own homes. They were less likely to live in poverty.


www.msnbc.msn.com...

So you choose not to address such ethno economic disparities.. I guess you are a white person then....Again I give you science and you give your opinion...



posted on Mar, 18 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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It is needed as white people hold the biscuits. These issues need to be adressed and people like you do not help...


Wealthy people hold the biscuits, of any race. Redistribution should be based only on wealth, not race.

Why should rich black person be preferred over poor white person just because of race? Thats racist and unfair.

Affirmative action based on poverty, not race, is the only acceptable way. It would still benefit black people more, since they are in average more poor than white people, but it would not be racist, and rich black people would not be privileged over poor white people.



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by purplemer
It (afirmative action) is needed as white people hold the biscuits. These issues need to be adressed and people like you do not help...


Rich people 'hold the biscuits'. Many white people are poor.


Originally posted by purplemer
White households had incomes that were two-thirds higher than blacks and 40 percent higher than Hispanics last year, according to data released Tuesday by the Census Bureau.


On average, white households have incomes higher than blacks and Hispanics, but some Blacks and Hispanics are rich and some Whites are poor.

Instead of discriminating against poor white people, what would be wrong with making affirmative action being based on need? Why do rich black people get a leg up while poor white people don't?



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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Im not racist. I hate everyone equally. Especially you... =P



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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i had that key chain,haha. what a great simple but effectivee statement though and it's true, F all of you!



posted on Mar, 19 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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gotta call b.s. on your first reply, i grew up as much of a poor and unstable childhood without much family or social support and it was surprised to people that i even graduated high school considering the trouble i was getting in which many factors of my enviroment growing up contributed to. now when i applied for college and a question pops up asking if i am another race hispanic specifically) which to me implies to me that for some reason they have it harder than me. like another post mentioned, we cader to them in so many ways it isnt funny, not to mention every 'minority' gets some sort of tax break for being anything but white. thats racist to me and i feel, i guess not targeted but neglected from my country now in my adulthood in a new way. everyone is capable of taking personal responsability in waht they do, how they act, and where they go in life. get over it, be a man and i'm sure you will find that you have much more respect for yourselves to those who are still holding on to keeping this issue alive and making it worse by using the word 'racist' at every turn instead of understanding how one individual feels from the next and trying to give a respectable, open-minded alternative.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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every race discriminates against one another thats just the sad world we live in today. everyones just got to live with it and get on with life. if u let trivial things like one race getting there own McDonalds website bother you youve got too much time on your hands. at the end of the day some people are rich some are poor, some people seem to get more benefits than others. thats just life


sorry if that bored you had to get my first ever post out the way



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by YourImaginaryFriend
every race discriminates against one another thats just the sad world we live in today. everyones just got to live with it and get on with life. if u let trivial things like one race getting there own McDonalds website bother you youve got too much time on your hands. at the end of the day some people are rich some are poor, some people seem to get more benefits than others. thats just life


sorry if that bored you had to get my first ever post out the way
Good first post!
Have your first star!



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:45 AM
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There are plenty of white folks that overcome long odds (like broken homes and poverty), but a minority is given all kinds of help and encouragement for doing so while the white person gets little to nothing for it.

There are plenty of poor white people, there are plenty of white kids that are ignored and tossed aside in school. When a black kid overcomes these odds, he's given all sorts of aid; when a white kid does, nobody cares because he's white.

If we've got to have a lower standard for the black kids that went to the same school as me, then that means they can't do as good as me, and that means that they're inherently inferior to me.

Frankly, it's because I believe in equality that the lower standards thing ticks me off. It's not fair, or right, for me to have to work a lot harder than them for the same results. And because people seem to think that it's okay for me to have to work harder simply because of my skin color, I feel justified in asserting anti-white discrimination. Because, if we're being intellectually honest, that's exactly what such a thing is.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:50 AM
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Look at the most powerful positions in western democracies. The Judges, The Politicians, The bankers, The CEO's of large corporations. The vast majority are white middle class males with few exceptions. So no, white's are not more discriminated than blacks.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
There are plenty of white folks that overcome long odds (like broken homes and poverty), but a minority is given all kinds of help and encouragement for doing so while the white person gets little to nothing for it.


Actually, around 85% of people on welfare are what you call "white" and so I really fail to see how these people are not as helped like Black Americans...where do you get this information from?


There are plenty of poor white people, there are plenty of white kids that are ignored and tossed aside in school. When a black kid overcomes these odds, he's given all sorts of aid; when a white kid does, nobody cares because he's white.
Well, for better or worse, it's a statistical game. Per capita, there are less so-called "White" people in poverty than Black or Hispanic, so, by that fact alone, even though the shear number of "White" people in poverty is higher, the percentage of Black and "Hispanic" people is higher than "White".

By that rationale, it would make sense to help Black and "Hispanic" children succeed to increase the percentage of their groups who make out well. However, this is stupid, I agree, because the person is all that should matter. This is still a form of institutionalized racism because you are treating individuals based on the outcomes or successes of the group they are lumped in with.


If we've got to have a lower standard for the black kids that went to the same school as me, then that means they can't do as good as me, and that means that they're inherently inferior to me.

Frankly, it's because I believe in equality that the lower standards thing ticks me off. It's not fair, or right, for me to have to work a lot harder than them for the same results. And because people seem to think that it's okay for me to have to work harder simply because of my skin color, I feel justified in asserting anti-white discrimination. Because, if we're being intellectually honest, that's exactly what such a thing is.


True. It could be that such programs hint that Black people (or "Hispanics") are inferior because they need a leg up. But I don't think that is actually the case. The suggested reasoning behind affirmative action is that because of prejudices, it becomes A LOT HARDER FOR THEM to get through school and get effective jobs, etc. It's because of the neighborhoods and the schools and the job opportunities and the higher education opportunities and the prejudicial scapegoating that police do on them and the way employers might hold prejudices that actually effect whether or not they will hire that person at all.

I went to public school, but they were more or less good public schools As and A+s. I had access to computers at an early age and I had access to alternative programs, museums, etc. My parents had access so that when I was born, they were living a middle class lifestyle. Because they had the money and ability to travel, they took me around to cultural and historic sites in the country. They bought certain books for me. They hired an au pair so I could learn French when I was little for a year. They had good credit, so we could get a good loan for me to go to a good state university. They had the money to let me study abroad in college. When I didn't have enough money, my uncle bought a car for me so I could make it through a job and a master's degree (no public transport options where I lived).

Now, compare that situation with other "White" people. I have lots of friends with different stories - obviously - but who still benefited: a friend with connections for law school (opens doors); a friend with connections for a production company (skip steps on the way up the ladder); parents of one family member who had the money to allow him to travel to his father's hometown in Poland every year (broadens the horizons); cousins with access to a camp site in the woods in New York (ability to learn about nature, get out of the city).

I could go on and on with examples of friends and family and then I ask, the last time you drove through the "Black" part of town, did you see people who could benefit from these same scenarios? Anyone with a wealthy uncle who could give them transportation to further their career or get a higher degree? Anyone with parents who could possibly sustain a trip abroad to broaden their horizons? Anyone with access to land for whatever purpose?

No. You don't see that and that is "WHY" there is a need for something. Affirmative action might not be the panacea. I think individualized attention, a school system that is supported equally across the board (not based on property tax, which is only a way of maintaining status quo), and a total moratorium on using "race" check boxes for education, jobs or other purposes.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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I'm getting it from knowing that a black kid who gets decent grades and a decent SAT score will have money thrown at him left and right to go to college and will be recruited left and right. His story will really touch people when he's applying to scholarships.

A white kid in a similar situation with similar grades and SAT scores is just another average kid.

I get this information because I saw it happen with my own eyes. White kids who actually came from tougher places and backgrounds got less recognition and less help for college and in career planning than the minorities who were on the same level performance wise.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Politicians, judges, and CEO's are not middle class.

The discrimination against those of European heritage is on an upswing. If you can't see it, maybe you don't want to.
edit on 28-3-2012 by BlesUTP because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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Where is my tax break? And where was that job in that all white/latino work place, oh thats right a white guy got picked over me (fact)... The only special treatment I have gotten in this world from white people, is from white girls, and im not complaining.... put that in your pipe n smoke it



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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i know for a FACT that this is the case in some schools in nyc. If say a black kid cut class a majority of the year and came back near the end to take the midterms/finals he would get a pass (65) regardless of how well he did on the tests. if a white kid did this however he would get a failing grade even if he got a perfect score on the finals/midterms. i talked to a few of my teachers about this and they all had the same reply. "if too many black kids fail we will lose funding from the state"



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by MastaShake
i know for a FACT that this is the case in some schools in nyc. If say a black kid cut class a majority of the year and came back near the end to take the midterms/finals he would get a pass (65) regardless of how well he did on the tests. if a white kid did this however he would get a failing grade even if he got a perfect score on the finals/midterms. i talked to a few of my teachers about this and they all had the same reply. "if too many black kids fail we will lose funding from the state"


Nope your wrong, because white people hold all the biscuits, so your wrong. Doesn't matter what proof you bring, white people can't be discriminated against.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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But that's still not any concrete thing. That's not an actual person, that's a mental characteristic you've applied to a set of people...





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