Are Whites More Discriminated Against Than Blacks?

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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by technical difficulties

Originally posted by robbyraw
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to be honest i'd like to see an all metal and rock channel like how MTV used to be. even then they had YO MTV raps and now its a joke.
There are channels like that today. For instance (it's in italy but still): en.wikipedia.org...

I'm just tired of all the people who post simple-minded comments on how there isn't a "straight pride parade" or "white entertainment television". They don't even bother to understand why gays/blacks/etc. have those things in the first place.


They don't seem to get that "White" isn't a cohesive group. It's a myth. It's an antithesis created to accomodate the label "Black". Black as a term is only valid when referring to those descendants of slaves who are genetically mixed European and Western Sub-Saharan African. Black when referring to anyone from Sub-Saharan Africa as a cohesive unit is a fallacy. In the same way, White as a cohesive term referring to anyone from Lisbon to Moscow is also a fallacy and based on myth, not science.

The reason in the US there is a Black Entertainment network is because there is a cultural cohesion that links most Black Americans. Such a network in any African nation would be ridiculous. What would it mean? Who would it cater to?

White in the US is a mixing of so many different ethnic groups that I personally could not keep it all straight. Personally, I do not have a great deal of cultural similarity (as a so-called "White" person) with someone who goes to German festivals or Greek festivals or who attends a Swedish Lutheran church or Jews or the Lebanese people or any other person who could loosely be identified as Caucasoid (whatever that really could or would mean). I do, however, identify a lot with Italian cultural items as that is a large part of my ethnic background. However, there are festivals for me...Italian Festivals. There are also Italian restaurants and Italian television programs (like Rachael Rae, Jersey Shore and the Sopranos...haha, just kidding!)




posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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From your link:




Eventually, the police arrested a suspect who was reportedly tied to the scene by DNA evidence.


He was arrested and charged, just not with a hate crime.

But the title of your linked article says it all, really, about your perspective. I think you are in the wrong forum...



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Of course whites are, as they are ACTIVELY discriminated against by the state, which trumps anything else

UNAPOLOGETIC HONKY WHO WILL FIGHT FOR HIS KIDS!



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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yes he was arrested and charge after an investigation, if you read the whole story you supplied you will see that the police department is currently investigating the shooting.

justice takes time




But the title of your linked article says it all, really, about your perspective. I think you are in the wrong forum...


what does the title of the link I supplied say anything about my perspective?



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 08:04 PM
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Lol how about a new topic. The majority of the comments to this paticular post show and prove that so many europeans believe they are actually discriminated agianst more in a society that is controlled by europeans. To even believe that is so far fetched like believing a mystery God lives in the sky and controls everything. Lol. Just look how it sounds. We live in a society that is dominated by europeans in every area of human relations( economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex and war) and yet europeans themselves believe they are discriminated agianst more than all people of color (black people). This only shows the prejudice and racist thoughts that exist in many of your subconcious.

Racism is no threat to Europeans. It's a construct of society that you benefit from more than anything. So let's break race down briefly for those who don't understand it quite well. Contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as race. Race is a false construct which which created by Europeans, hundreds of year ago, in order to differentiate themselves from people of African descent and other people of color throughout the world. The concept of race was created by scientists and scholars at Gottingen University in Germany between 1775-1800. So you see race was created to purposely divide and conquer and to make the white race superior and dominant over all. Europeans have been destructive to all civilization sence they crawled out of the caves. Before race and the existence of the european black people(all people of color) across the planet only dealt with culture big the entire planet was people of color so race wasn't a factor. The caucus mountain dwellers came and changed all of that.

Bottom line is whites are in no way, shape or fashion discriminated agianst more than blacks(all people of color). It's a fact and the fact that some of you believe that you are is just an opinion based off your own ignorance. Thats simple. Peace.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Race is a false construct which which created by Europeans, hundreds of year ago, in order to differentiate themselves from people of African descent and other people of color throughout the world. The concept of race was created by scientists and scholars at Gottingen University in Germany between 1775-1800. So you see race was created to purposely divide and conquer and to make the white race superior and dominant over all.
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Sorry, but I have to do this.




Surely you can't be serious. I am tri-racial. Races of man exist.

You do realize that when the bones of a long dead murder victim are found, they shape of the bones can indicate the race, sex and age of the victim? It is not an invention.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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Lol that's fine if you believe that it's up to you. But this was an actual conference that lasted for about 25 years. Don't believe me look it up for yourself. I gave the time period and the name of the school in germany. Lol how can you argue with actual facts of history. Race was a word created about 2 centuries ago. It's fairly new to our society but of course you wouldn't know that. Lol I mean come on am I the only one who actually studies history before 1900. Look it up for yourself. Before race people delt with different cultures. When the songhay and mali people sailed here thousands of years before columbus in 100s of well built ships, they encountered the Indians who were black. They traded cultures, race wasnt even a factor until europeans came about. Come on this is simple history here.
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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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this is simple history here.

You got the 'simple' part all sewn up.

There's nothing simple about history. There are some fairly thick blinders involved if you think that the races of mankind don't actually exist.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by NightGypsy
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What is wrong with holding everyone to the same standards?? Encourage everyone to do their best. Leave out the sob stories that are used to get a leg up and work your ass off.


I agree.

Morgan Freeman was right when he said, "The way to end racism is to stop talking about it." When things like "affirmative action" are imposed on the population that provide special treatment for a certain racial group, it does not take a genius to see how such a thing could wind up backfiring......which ultimately does nothing but perpetuate more racism.



Just so you know your bud Morgan Freeman is a hypocrite regarding racism. When he was asked who did you vote for in the presidential election he replied "Obama" when asked why he said "because he is black". Now what do you think that suggests about Morgan ???



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by NuminousCosmos
I have never been racially repressed, attacked by clowns in white hoods, nor have I been sold into slavery. This is one white man who thinks those other white men need to learn history and actually understand what discrimination against color really means.
Neither have the blacks of today been attacked by white hoods or sold into slavery. So what is your point? You didn't make one. First of all, every race, creed, religion has been sold into slavery. Blacks owned black slaves and white slaves both in this country and abroad. Muslims pirates kidnapped Christians at sea and enslaved them in Northern Africa. You probably have ancestors who were slaves somewhere some time. Secondly, you are relying too much on your government edited history propaganda. White hoods were a democratically created false flag to ring in bigger government and police state laws. It's a sham. Come on man, really? Pointy white hoods? Get real. In reality, middle class whites are the slaves, doing all the work, making the rich richer, and taking care of the poor at the same time. The poor are in place to keep the middle class afraid of being poor, therefore working for both the rich and the poor. Discrimination against white is off the charts these days, so is the violence, and blacks keep milking the race card because folk like you have bought into the sham, and propaganda with your white guilt complex, forged by years of corporate media and public education indoctrination,
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posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
According to a new study conducted by sociologists at Harvard and Tufts universities, American whites believe that they are more discriminated against than blacks.



Only if you're trying to get in college...or a scholarship...or any financial aid...but besides that, a new job...any job with the government...except the military and only then for promotions...but besides that only the police force or fire department...and then only with any and all tests or promotions..or anything at all that requires some set of standards, but after those are lowered enough then only in any cases that you might be white regardless of your scores vs any other scores of nonwhite folk...but besides that, no. How ridiculous of anyone to even bring up such a load of nonsensical conspiracy...exspecialy if you ain't been stomped on by the man. You racist.



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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How about some affirmative action for sports? If not, why not?



posted on Mar, 10 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by TheBlackManIsGod7
. We live in a society that is dominated by europeans in every area of human relations( economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex and war) and yet europeans themselves believe they are discriminated agianst more than all people of color (black people). This only shows the prejudice and racist thoughts that exist in many of your subconcious.


we live in a society that is dominated by a select few people of European extraction. That does not however mean the average white person enjoys the same perks. American history has shown the precise opposite in fact and one could surmise your rather black and white outlook on our society either stems from ignorance or your own prejudice., Likely a mixture of both.


But if you want to believe the system is set up behind the scenes to give a certain group a leg up while holding down the other by all means this is a conspiracy forum after all.
But bare in mind the immense hypocrisy in speaking of the prejudice that lies in ones subconscious while happily generalizing an entire "race"
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by TreadUpon

Originally posted by ollncasino
According to a new study conducted by sociologists at Harvard and Tufts universities, American whites believe that they are more discriminated against than blacks.



Only if you're trying to get in college...or a scholarship...or any financial aid...but besides that, a new job...any job with the government...except the military and only then for promotions...but besides that only the police force or fire department...and then only with any and all tests or promotions..or anything at all that requires some set of standards, but after those are lowered enough then only in any cases that you might be white regardless of your scores vs any other scores of nonwhite folk...but besides that, no. How ridiculous of anyone to even bring up such a load of nonsensical conspiracy...exspecialy if you ain't been stomped on by the man. You racist.



LOL funnest most correct points made on this thread which would have to mean you pissed of a lot of liberal crybaby, tree hugging, politically correct, brain washed Nazis who seem to be so out of touch with reality these days



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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The question is "are whites discriminated agianst more that blacks." Part of my response is no, how can whites be more discriminated in a society controlled by whites. Your response was "well there are a select few that control it." That doesn't discredit the fact and my statement that it is still dominated by europeans. Racism is prejudice with power. The "select few" control all the 9 areas of human relations which I've previously stated which is basically controlling our society and the world we live in. What do you see people of color as? Miniorities right? When in fact people of color on the globe are the majority. But you've been taught to see it as such. What do you see when you think of welfare and the poor? Is it blacks? Yet statistics show that large corporations and single white mothers benefit from welfare more than any other in our country. Yet is this what the media portrays? No. Close your eyes, what is the first thing you see when you think of a gangbanger saling drugs? Is it a white face or a black one? I'm sure of what the answer is and your answer is a contruct of society. Yet statistics show that whites abuse drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks or people of color. We all are influenced by the world around us. The world we live in helps to shape our thoughts and the type of people we are. Racism is prejudice with power. Those in power, have the power to inflict the masses with their prejudice views and after time the masses soon take to the views either conciously or subconsiously.

Also we are all individuals, yet there are over 7 billion people on the planet so when we are referring to "race" or cultures then we must deal with a masses or "generalize" as some put it.

www.youtube.com...

This video is about an hour but Tim Wise did a pretty good job on explaining white priviledge. Take look. You'll learn something. Peace
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 12:39 AM
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Really how do you expect anyone to listen to you and think your being unbiased when your name is literally "blackmanisGod" Most will think just like I do that your logic and understanding do not come from a place where someone could make a counterpoint with you excepting it. Your mind is made up and anyone with common sense could tell just by looking at your name what side of the fence you are on.With that being said you need to look past your own bs sometimes and look into if there is some validity to what other people are saying but I highly doubt you will. You will push numbers and bull# statistics at us that are not verified and leave out certian factors to make your own argument seem right.

Ps i think treadupons version of white privilege seems more up to date and in touch with reality
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 12:42 AM
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Hey bro, you never listed any sources for your "facts" that you stated earlier, someone even had the balls to call you out on it and you still didn't provide sources. *sigh* All that you spout is Pro Black propaganda and you should be ashamed of yourself and I can tell that you are a 'n-word', just by the rhetoric you spit. Eugenics was brought about because of ignorant people like yourself. People like you have no place in a civilized world, you can try to fit in but, do you really?

BTW, 'n-word' is a word that means ignorant person, why do you think that that particular word usually only adheres strictly to one race? Marinate on that and hit me up with your thoughts, I'm curious.

And if you are such a history buff, you should know that history repeats itself but with little twists and turns. Marinate on that one. Actually, you may need to sleep on that one for a couple of days for it to really sink in.

Hit me up with some sources dude and then you and I can have an intellectual convo "on the mental"

Haha, your mood is "militant". That speaks volumes homie.

ETA: White power!
Pdiddy did it so I did it too.
Peace.
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posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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"Push numbers and statistics at you that aren't verified." The fact that you are unaware of the knowledge doesn't mean it is unverified. The verification of anything I say is actually your job. I speak the truth regardless of what it sounds like to some. Like I said previously. The views on discrimination, prejudice and recism that people of color have and that europeans have are like water and oil. They'll never mix and that's the science of everything having a palarady. I'm not seeking to persuade anyone.

Also the black Man is God. Christianity has Gnostic Christianity, Islam has Sufism, Judaism has the Kaballah, Buddhism has the Hinyana school and Hinduism has the tradition found in the Upanishads. These are all considered lesser-known aspects of these major traditions, and all teach that the Black Man is God. The Freemasons upon reaching there 33rd degree learn that the Black Man is God and call him Allah and transition from the bible to the Quran. This is an actual fact that occurs not something I'm coming up with. The correct spelling for the word Yahweh is actullay "YHWH." This word written from top to bottom in Hebrew represents God as Man and Man as God. This is why orthodox jews consider the word the "ineffable name." All throughout the Bible (King James version) it refers to the Black Man as God. So I am merely stating what has already been said before me and before those who said it before me. Peace.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

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Surely you can't be serious. I am tri-racial. Races of man exist.

You do realize that when the bones of a long dead murder victim are found, they shape of the bones can indicate the race, sex and age of the victim? It is not an invention.



This is absolutly true. I used to perform autopsies and I used to date a anthropologist. Its true.



posted on Mar, 11 2012 @ 12:59 AM
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Black-on-white crime must be confronted



Recently, editors for the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, and the Chicago Tribune have all publicly admitted to censoring black crime. They all said they justified it to protect blacks from being stigmatized.

Over the weekend, half a dozen whites were viciously assaulted by a mob of young blacks in Philadelphia. Police say the mob ranged from 50-100 people.

If media, police, and politicians do not openly and honestly confront the growing trend of brutal black on white crime things will only get much worse. It will also severely poison race relations in this country.

Examiner


So black on white racism isn't being reported by at least some newspapers to prevent "blacks from being stigmatized".

Those newspapers appear to have no problem with reporting white on black racism and presumably stigmatizing whites.





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