Why obama's association with Derrick Bell Matters

reply to post by rebellender


Wow, way to miss the whole point of what we were saying. No one was blaming Bush for anything in this thread, not once.
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It always amazes me when the die hard conservatives do not consider themselves radical but won't hesitate to call the communists such. You do realize a libertarian is considered radical, right?

Why get caught up in left/right garbage? This country is never going to be strictly conservative or strictly liberal due to most of the population being political intermediates. You guys get so caught up in what a "conservative" is supposed to believe you won't even consider someone elses view point.

You guys seem like you listen to way too much Micheal Savage.

Originally posted by RealSpoke

You guys seem like you listen to way too much Micheal Savage.

WOW! I'm so proud of myself that I had to google Michael Savage, because I did not know who this guy was. What a polite and loving soul.

I'm off to see if this "anti-pacifist" spent one day in warzone.... although I highly doubt it listening to his hatred, I highly doubt this guy spent one day in a warzone....



Edit to add:
Yep, I was right. He never served. But, his lack of military experience did not keep him from writing a book and making money off of it:

In January 2004, Savage published his second political book The Enemy Within: Saving America from the Liberal Assault on Our Schools, Faith, and Military. His next book, Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder, was released on April 12, 2005.

Originally posted by jlv70
reply to post by rebellender

 

Abolish Social Security and do the country a Favor sense it was a socialistic act

Really, wow, just wow.

Look at what this pinko had to say about people who thought abolishing social security was a good idea.

2 days after his election, what do you think he would say?

By dollars paid, the U.S. Social Security program is the largest government program in the world and the single greatest expenditure in the federal budget, with 20.8% for social security, compared to 20.5% for discretionary defense and 20.1% for Medicare/Medicaid.[6] Social Security is currently the largest social insurance program in the U.S. where in 2003 combined spending for all social insurance programs constituted 37% of government expenditure and 7% of the gross domestic product.[7] Social Security is currently estimated to keep roughly 40 percent of all Americans age 65 or older out of poverty.[8] The Social Security Administration is headquartered in Woodlawn, Maryland, just to the west of Baltimore.

seems this hand out was doomed from the start. You know everybody Liked Ike he just was a Ticket puncher of a President. not sure you know what I mean. He was a war hero and USA needed him after the death of Truman but History will say Ike didnt know how to handle the Office of President of the United States

Alright. I see the people argue this way and that way. But nobody gets right down to the real issue. The Media. You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America. Why does the Media want to harm America?

Originally posted by XXX777
You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America. Why does the Media want to harm America?

You sorta answered your own question, didn't you?

Why do lawmakers who make more laws convince people who have no idea how many laws there are that people need more lawmakers to make even more laws?

Originally posted by ILikeStars

Originally posted by XXX777
You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America. Why does the Media want to harm America?

You sorta answered your own question, didn't you?

Why do lawmakers who make more laws convince people who have no idea how many laws there are that people need more lawmakers to make even more laws?

No.

Your attempt has failed.

The Media is actively involved in destroying America. One would think that a parasite would be at least slightly interested in keeping the host alive.

Originally posted by XXX777
Alright. I see the people argue this way and that way. But nobody gets right down to the real issue. The Media. You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America. Why does the Media want to harm America?

what does the media have to do with the relationships Obama has had over the tenure of his apprenticeship prior to his election into office of President of the United States, further, what does the media have to do with the fact that Obama has association with Racist Clergy Leaders and Racist Collage Faculty of Ivy League Tenure.

Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by XXX777
Alright. I see the people argue this way and that way. But nobody gets right down to the real issue. The Media. You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America. Why does the Media want to harm America?

what does the media have to do with the relationships Obama has had over the tenure of his apprenticeship prior to his election into office of President of the United States, further, what does the media have to do with the fact that Obama has association with Racist Clergy Leaders and Racist Collage Faculty of Ivy League Tenure.

Are you TRYING to confuse the issue?
What do you have to hide?

The Media is more than capable of vetting Obama, and yet they pushed him for President. The Media has something other than American supremacy in mind.

reply to post by ILikeStars


Yeah he blames all the worlds problems on Liberals, probably a shill.

reply to post by RealSpoke


Yep. Savage behaves as if he were a shill for Israel.

Originally posted by XXX777

Originally posted by ILikeStars

Originally posted by XXX777
You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America. Why does the Media want to harm America?

You sorta answered your own question, didn't you?

Why do lawmakers who make more laws convince people who have no idea how many laws there are that people need more lawmakers to make even more laws?

No.

Your attempt has failed.

"You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America."

Because: It is good for the media.

Because: It benefits the media.

Originally posted by Nana2
White people: You think obama cares about you at all? Everything is showing how he ONLY cares for people of color. It is getting harder and harder for both him and his wife to hide their racism, and their desire to divide this country on ravial lines.

Wait so let me get this straight, you post an explicit rascist thread to bitch about the non- existant racism you accuse Obama off....WTF I've seen many weird and ridiculous things on these forums, but never before have i seen an OP so pathetic and distorted.

FYI : Obama isn't black, he is of mixed origin, SO...poof.... there goes your entire rascist-remarks-camouflaged as argument.
There is only one explanation for a travesty of a thread like this: unaceptable Rascism and the inability to accept the reality that this man is your President.

To me It's crystal clear now: The extremists who bitych the loudest like to make extremist out of anyone who disagrees with their delusional brainfarts.

I guess this is proven once again that you shouldn't argue with idiots, because they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Originally posted by ILikeStars

Originally posted by XXX777

Originally posted by ILikeStars

Originally posted by XXX777
You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America. Why does the Media want to harm America?

You sorta answered your own question, didn't you?

Why do lawmakers who make more laws convince people who have no idea how many laws there are that people need more lawmakers to make even more laws?

No.

Your attempt has failed.

"You have to ask yourself why the Media and the people that produce the Media, edit the Media and financially support the Media are so eager to elect a President that is bad for America."

Because: It is good for the media.

Because: It benefits the media.

Who is this media group that is benefited?

Originally posted by XXX777

Who is this media group that is benefited?

I'm not sure there is any media group that does not make a business, profit, and better ratings from the chaos and problematic politicians.

The point I was trying to make when I suggested you answered your own question is that it benefits the media because they have more to report, easier access to it, and that it requires less work on their part if idiots get elected.

The analogy in my first response to your post was intended to be a comparison between why media wants press worthy people to be elected, and the fact that lawmakers get paid to make more laws and that it benefits lawmakers if they can convince voters that they need more lawmakers to make more laws.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Isn't it funny how so called "American's" can actually see and hear all of the evidence against Obama and still stand in his corner?
One way or another, this pretender must be removed from the office of President.
We have got to take this nation back to what made us strong to begin with.

reply to post by jlv70

Really, wow, just wow. Look at what this pinko had to say about people who thought abolishing social security was a good idea.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

Eisenhower was one of the greatest Presidents we ever had. Republicans won't talk about him though. Eisenhower did a lot to build this country. He wasn't perfect, but he was a good man.

It all matters... The full size portrait is finally being revealed not the cropped version.

Barack Obama made his own students at the University of Chicago Law School read some of Derrick Bell's most radical and racially inflammatory writings.

In 1994, Barack Obama taught a course at the University of Chicago Law School entitled, "Current Issues in Racism and the Law." The reading list and syllabus for that class were made available by the New York Times in 2008, though there seems to have been little analysis of its content by Jodi Kantor, the Times’s Obama correspondent.

Obama routinely assigned works by Bell as required reading, including Bell's racialist interpretations of seminal civil rights laws and cases. No other scholar’s work appears as often in the syllabus as Bell’s does.

Obama relied particularly heavily upon Bell’s major work, Race, Racism, and American Law (1973). Now in its sixth edition, the book lays out Bell’s Critical Race Theory, which is based on the Alinskyite presumption that all of law is a construct--not of justice, but of power exercised by whites against blacks.

Perhaps most interesting was Obama's decision to include and to require the introduction to Bell’s controversial 1992 book, Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence of Racism, which relied on manufactured stories (or, as Bell called them, “allegories” or “fables”) meant to portray the allegedly structural racism of American society.

In a September 24, 1992 interview with C-Span’s Brian Lamb, Lamb quoted this paragraph from Bell’s book and asked Bell for comment.

Black people will never gain full equality in this country. Even those Herculean efforts we hail as successful will produce no more than temporary peaks of progress, short-lived victories that slide into irrelevance as racial patterns adapt in ways that maintain white dominance. This is a hard-to-accept fact that all history verifies. We must acknowledge it, not as a sign of submission, but as an act of ultimate defiance. (p. 12, italics in original)

“That, if I had to put down my whole thirty five years working in this [field] is [my view] reflected… If you read nothing else, I think that reflects my experience,” Bell told Lamb.

That is what Obama wanted his fellow students at Harvard, and the students he taught at Chicago, to understand--and believe.

Contrary to media spin, Obama did not encounter radical racialist professor Derrick Bell in a youthful flirtation with radicalism.

Obama befriended Bell as an adult, and he used Bell's work to indoctrinate his own students about race and the law.

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befriend indeed. Derrick Bell appears two times in 2010 on the White house Guest book. No confirmation from the WH if this is the same Derrick Bell that Obama knew so well during his Harvard Years. Don't count on that confirmation anytime soon.
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The syllabus
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According to Bell Racism is permanent. Based on Obama's intent to divide this nation along racial and economic lines I'd say Obama must agree.

Video interview
www.breitbart.com... come%20Racism

And we also see this "wisdom" from Mr Bell:

"I find that my views have at least a better chance of being heard if I can place those views in the context of a fable, of a story. During the telling of which, or the reading of which, the individual is able to pull back to not feel threatened or involved."

Link to Video

Makes sense.

Obama's agendas seem like "fables" too

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Are you forgetting that the only biological family Obama has known were white?

Obama hates his mom? himself?

I've hung around radical communists and radical libertarians...does that make me "one of them"? NO

edit on 8-3-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

yes, the same white family who were known to be communists and radicals themselves. see: www.americanthinker.com...

"The next year they relocated to Mercer Island specifically so their daughter, Obama's future mother, Stanley Ann Dunham could attend Mercer Island high school.
What was special about Mercer Island High School? The Chicago Tribune explains:

"In 1955, the chairman of the Mercer Island school board, John Stenhouse, testified before the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party."

After intense debate, Stenhouse decided not to resign from the school board according to an April 11, 1955 account in Time Magazine. While others demanded Stenhouse's resignation, the Dunhams gravitated towards his school."

And from that same page: Barack Obama writes: "The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics." Despite the fact that she gave him up at 10 yrs old to be raised by somebody else. Doesnt take too much to influence him does it?

no sh&^* sherlock! his white families virtues, one of which he disdainly called a "typical white woman", influenced him with their radicalism, all right.