i have worked in the developmental disabled side of the fence, and i have seen cases of rape to these disabled people, and be cause if they get impregnated then it is " there choice " and if they have the mental capability of a 2 y/o the" you must " assume that they want to keep the child. then of course they cant take care of it so it becomes a warded to the state. and then they get moved around foster homes and never even have the chance for a stable and productive life. that is if the child came out normal. i have been on both sides of the fence. and im only condoning this in sever cases of mental retardation.

topic which is mental health and aussie rules . natural news perhaps prefer the topic from the other side of the rabbit proof fence

Like I was saying on the thread that mentions that UK scientists find it just as moral to kill a baby as a fetus... atheists do not value human life just for being human. They only value human life that produces for society. This will lead to a slave state, and more eugenics programs will follow. That is the way of the atheist. It only makes sense, for they do not believe that a human life has innate worth in and of itself.

Not religious myself, by the way, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with this nonsense. I would agree with it in some cases, if it were not for the fact that I feel like I have to draw a line in the sand right now.

Originally posted by darkbake
...atheists do not value human life just for being human. They only value human life that produces for society... ...That is the way of the atheist. It only makes sense, for they do not believe that a human life has innate worth in and of itself.

What a bunch of crap. Atheism is about not believing in god. The rest is up to each individuals' personal beliefs.

Atheism is NOT a religion- we don't mindlessly follow a guide book which says: "Thou must not value human life".

So, to the op. Did you just read this and then thought you'd post this on ATS for some sort of recognition?

ABSOLUTELY. As you can see by my join date and the amount of threads I've started, I'm an absolute flag WHORE and I'll post up anything that might get me some.

North Carolina just had a huge thing on this that they did back in the mid 20th century. They denied it for so long, but now are trying to give out the least amount of help to those affected. Good to see governments still dont care about their people.

Hmmm, that does sound a little like Nazi eugenics there doesn't it?

Here’s where it gets really scary; there is a couple in our area (in their late 50’s) that have custody of not one but two, of their grandchildren who are - get this, the children of their daughter who is literally mentally retarded and her equally mentally retarded “husband”.

Yep they are married and everything – they are being “mainstreamed” (they have “jobs” I think). They (the mentally deficient parents) evidently live in some kind of assisted living home in the next county over that the taxpayers pay for – the couple in question had their daughter sterilized after the second kid.

Why did they wait till after the second kid? They had to petition the court for the order do it since she is a ward of the state and in the time it took after the first one was born she got pregnant again. Abortion, evidently some religious choice for them – I’m not really sure.

Those poor grandkids are messed up genetically too, one obviously has downs and the other has a feeding tube, and all sorts of other medical issues.

Guess who pays for their medical care – the taxpayers that’s who; all Medicaide. US Taxpayer

Of note is also that the couple in question is in their late 50’s and the grandkids are under both under 5.

Who will take care of these kid’s for the rest of their life – we will, the tax payers. Imagine the cost.

So while it may seem perhaps Nazi-esque or some Orwellian nightmare state program how long must we (Joe Citizen) suffer the burden of paying for these children and others like them?

Did my story about the mentally ill procreating not scare you? These people have no business procreating on my dime – if they can take care of the offspring have at it, if not sterilize them.

What kind of life are these kids going to have? I don’t know I guess they may well be the second Barrack Obama or Albert Einstien for all I know; one thing I do know is that our taxes are going to pay for their medical care, housing, special education needs and a lot more in the future.

What else can we do?

In the case of those swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool – don’t throw them a lifeline throw them an anchor!

Hell, this might be even more humane in the long run; think of all the pain and suffering we'd save these children not to mention the taxpayers…

That humane intervention along with our saved tax dollars - no Medicaid births etc... That savings would waaay more than pay for the mandatory sterilization, Norplant and/or abortions (whatever menthods they use).

We cannot afford to continue down this road! It is our “compassion for our fellow man” that has created the untenable financial disaster. Time to stop this nonsense!